[KITEN] remenberMYname Players 653 posts 22,833 battles Report post #1 Posted June 24, 2019 i am happy , proud RANK 1 (mostly among first 3 on the afterbattle list.., very often the top-one) but very surprised, what happens there. and yours expierience? in higher battles around 4 rank : - they didnt cap ( really!!) - for winn needet to hide .. no shooting. >>>they shoot , been killed and we loose.... - all camped in one cap, not helping to cap another...and they die there and mix all above. i am shockt !!! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BYOB] Aragathor Players 7,047 posts 33,074 battles Report post #2 Posted June 24, 2019 Ranked and skill? That's an oxymoron. 7 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TOXIC] ThePurpleSmurf Players 2,554 posts Report post #3 Posted June 24, 2019 To be honest i'm not sure if you should be the one to talk about skill in ranked. You ranked out with a 46% WR and all your PR is in the deeeeeep reds. The only reason why you ranked out is that you spammed CV games with a below average PR which is apparently enough to reach rank 1 this season. This in a nutshell tells a lot about the ranked system and how bad it is. 11 8 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BHSFL] Beastofwar Players 4,596 posts Report post #4 Posted June 24, 2019 So ranking R1 has more to do with determination and the will to endure chaotic play and varying results then actual player skills.....no surprise really. That is how progressing through the game itself works too.... 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NWP] Bear__Necessities Players 5,291 posts 15,490 battles Report post #5 Posted June 24, 2019 2 minutes ago, Beastofwar said: So ranking R1 has more to do with determination and the will to endure chaotic play and varying results then actual player skills.....no surprise really. That is how progressing through the game itself works too.... Wrong. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[PARAZ] DasTongle Players 1,638 posts 15,435 battles Report post #6 Posted June 24, 2019 4 minutes ago, Bear_Necessities said: Wrong. Oh Endurance really plays into it the last days of Ranked. Other than that its a game of dice for the most Part. Well ranked out myself first time i actually took the time to endure 50 battles between 10-5 Rank bracket... had to totally switch my game from 5-1 and friday it clicked into place. Personally tried to help some clan mates achive higher rank and it was an eye opener with defeats that numbered 2k Base XP in a loss, damage that equaled to 142k avg damage on a montana. And you could only try 2h at a time without violently starting to get VERY Toxic. I mean i even took upon myself to give me 2 h max a day for that grind. It wasn't the best experience i ever had to be honest but i did it for the t10 baguette inow do not need thanks to T8 Clanbattles. Le sigh. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NWP] Blixies Beta Tester, Players 2,160 posts 6,904 battles Report post #7 Posted June 24, 2019 37 minutes ago, Milan_G_ said: -snip- How many battles did it take you? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[THESO] KillStealBoss Players 12,123 posts 63,428 battles Report post #8 Posted June 24, 2019 22 minutes ago, Bear_Necessities said: Wrong. In ranked you need patience . Skill ? Not so much. Even being average can get into rank 1 but you need the patience and luck. I don't have any so I ended up in rank 9 with 46 battles, 20 of which on tank 9 itself so I gave up. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[RAIN] GarrusBrutus Players 3,711 posts 12,821 battles Report post #9 Posted June 24, 2019 3 minutes ago, Blixies said: How many battles did it take you? 567......................... Dear lord. Why do people feel this is an accomplishment? It's not an accomplishment at all. Sure you committed a lot of time and you showed endurance, but needing this many games to rank out simply means you're not very good at the game. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NWP] Blixies Beta Tester, Players 2,160 posts 6,904 battles Report post #10 Posted June 24, 2019 4 minutes ago, GarrusBrutus said: 567 Astonishing. I am happy the guy feels it was worth it, because that is one hell of a time investment. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[DEH] hellhound666 Beta Tester 1,978 posts Report post #11 Posted June 24, 2019 6 minutes ago, GarrusBrutus said: 567......................... Dear lord. Why do people feel this is an accomplishment? It's not an accomplishment at all. Sure you committed a lot of time and you showed endurance, but needing this many games to rank out simply means you're not very good at the game. well, this is an accomplishment. just different kind of ... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[RONIN] 22cm Beta Tester 6,377 posts 37,297 battles Report post #12 Posted June 24, 2019 A Conqueror or CV player...Much balance. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NWP] Bear__Necessities Players 5,291 posts 15,490 battles Report post #13 Posted June 24, 2019 1 hour ago, The_Reichtangle said: Oh Endurance really plays into it the last days of Ranked. Other than that its a game of dice for the most Part. Well ranked out myself first time i actually took the time to endure 50 battles between 10-5 Rank bracket... had to totally switch my game from 5-1 and friday it clicked into place. Personally tried to help some clan mates achive higher rank and it was an eye opener with defeats that numbered 2k Base XP in a loss, damage that equaled to 142k avg damage on a montana. And you could only try 2h at a time without violently starting to get VERY Toxic. I mean i even took upon myself to give me 2 h max a day for that grind. It wasn't the best experience i ever had to be honest but i did it for the t10 baguette inow do not need thanks to T8 Clanbattles. Le sigh. 48 minutes ago, MacArthur92 said: In ranked you need patience . Skill ? Not so much. Even being average can get into rank 1 but you need the patience and luck. I don't have any so I ended up in rank 9 with 46 battles, 20 of which on tank 9 itself so I gave up. Of course you need patience and endurance to an extent. But to say skill has no part is an utter lie. There is a reason good players rank out far faster than average and bad players. Knowing the meta, the maps, the play style of the ships. Skill and experience are needed for that, never mind the skill to potentially carry 5 other rental potato's to a win. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[THESO] KillStealBoss Players 12,123 posts 63,428 battles Report post #14 Posted June 24, 2019 Just now, Bear_Necessities said: Of course you need patience and endurance to an extent. But to say skill has no part is an utter lie. There is a reason good players rank out far faster than average and bad players. Knowing the meta, the maps, the play style of the ships. Skill and experience are needed for that, never mind the skill to potentially carry 5 other rental potato's to a win. Ofc skill is needed to rank out faster . If somebody is average he might eventually rank out after 400-500 battles (1000 in extreme situations like some guy called papieros - not mentioning his all nick because I'm not going to shame him) 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[PARAZ] DasTongle Players 1,638 posts 15,435 battles Report post #15 Posted June 24, 2019 The Worst part where the obviously stupid ideas where you could tell from the start "This dude wants to only save a star he is not interessted in a Victory" Shards : We start north, i suggest to the Desmoines to go B to hold against dd he says no its deathtrap , that is true to an extend but it is how hard you sell you 50k HP against everything that matter. So he says no F you goes to C and gets blapped cause a dd went INTO B and spotted him. Sea of Fortune : We start at the northside of the map i am the closest BB to C to my right a rental Yamato that not only said "I CAP C" but gets blapped dead on the way there and then starts calling me and my desperate attempts to win the match "Idiot Noob" i mean with 216k damage and 2 caps in a Montana i obviously am. Made the mistake of not focusing the dd when i had the chance... Also Sea of Fortune... Shima stops 10km from A+B cap behind me and onces it gets capped launches 20km widespreads.... GUESS WHO CAUGHT 2 unwilling.... It is mind boggling. I can provide the games to watch if someone wants to have massive inner pains :P But at least managed to bump up my friend a few ranks and get him some steel. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[MORIA] quickr Players 1,953 posts 25,339 battles Report post #16 Posted June 24, 2019 11 minutes ago, Bear_Necessities said: Of course you need patience and endurance to an extent. But to say skill has no part is an utter lie. There is a reason good players rank out far faster than average and bad players. Knowing the meta, the maps, the play style of the ships. Skill and experience are needed for that, never mind the skill to potentially carry 5 other rental potato's to a win. At the end of the day both, i don't know, Flamu and Milan_G have rank 1 next to their name. And if there was no way of checking their stats and how many games it took them you would probably come to the conclusion they are equally good and skilled players. Which we know they aren't. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[A77] WashedandDeceased Players 891 posts 20,781 battles Report post #17 Posted June 24, 2019 .. This thread is living proof that being rank 1 and being a good player can be two completely different things 3 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CptBarney Players 8,127 posts 245 battles Report post #18 Posted June 24, 2019 the ranked system in this game is terrible. it doesn't reward skill but simply determination and the ability to keep going regardless. hense why i do not bother even with the pointless rewards it offers. how sad, i take randoms more seriously than the so called 'ranked' game mode. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NWP] Bear__Necessities Players 5,291 posts 15,490 battles Report post #19 Posted June 24, 2019 8 minutes ago, quickr said: At the end of the day both, i don't know, Flamu and Milan_G have rank 1 next to their name. And if there was no way of checking their stats and how many games it took them you would probably come to the conclusion they are equally good and skilled players. Which we know they aren't. Sorry, 4th post night shift brain here... I'm confused? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[EMPOR] _DemonGuard_ Players 982 posts Report post #20 Posted June 24, 2019 2 hours ago, Milan_G_ said: i am shockt !!! Me, too. 46% winrate to get rank 1, only thing you have to do is playing a CV...thanks WG. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[MORIA] quickr Players 1,953 posts 25,339 battles Report post #21 Posted June 24, 2019 3 minutes ago, Bear_Necessities said: Sorry, 4th post night shift brain here... I'm confused? Only second coffee on my end, probably didn't have to quote you there. It was just a general comment on how skill plays small role in ranking out. Sure, it will help you rank out faster but at the end of the day both players: the one with unicum stats that played 70 ranked games and potato player that played 600 games have "rank 1" next to their name. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NWP] Bear__Necessities Players 5,291 posts 15,490 battles Report post #22 Posted June 24, 2019 1 minute ago, quickr said: Only second coffee on my end, probably didn't have to quote you there. It was just a general comment on how skill plays small role in ranking out. Sure, it will help you rank out faster but at the end of the day both players: the one with unicum stats that played 70 ranked games and potato player that played 600 games have "rank 1" next to their name. Ahh that makes sense I think I need some sleep now 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BHSFL] Beastofwar Players 4,596 posts Report post #23 Posted June 24, 2019 12 minutes ago, _DemonGuard_ said: 46% winrate to get rank 1.. Yes those are the FACTS. The stat fanatics will be in denial however.....they think stats actually mean anything. 3 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[MBSSX] OldschoolGaming_YouTube Beta Tester 3,274 posts 17,092 battles Report post #24 Posted June 24, 2019 Nothing new here. T10 in randoms are a complete Potato-Fest and for some reason Ranked usually attract the worst of the bunch and thats why WG implemented the "Save a star" function, so the 1 or 2 actually good players that want to get better at the game would prevail and keep on grinding the ranks. If that wasent in place, no skilled player in their right mind would play in this mode, just to aggravating. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Taliesn Players 2,238 posts 16,405 battles Report post #25 Posted June 24, 2019 1 hour ago, hellhound666 said: well, this is an accomplishment. just different kind of ... Text-book lack of self-awareness also. 2 hours ago, Milan_G_ said: i am happy , proud RANK 1 (mostly among first 3 on the afterbattle list.., very often the top-one) You don't need 567 battles to rank out if you are very often the top-one. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
