Theories on new lines?

[VPH030]

It occured to me that with the addition of the Soviet BBs and the French DD in a couple of months, we pretty much have all the lines of all the major nations in the game so far. For the sake of the discussion, let's assume the next line (after French DDs) will be Italian CAs - though this is not yet announced. Any theories on what may follow that? I guess they could do a Pan-Europe line (hinted at with the DD)... or something for PanAsia or Commonwealth? Or maybe some line splits? Any theories?

[RAHJAILARI]

My best guess would be: Italian Cruiser line, followed by Italian BB line followed by Italian DD line... Maybe a few additional Pan-American & Pan-European ships too, but no complete ship line(s) for them yet.

 

Maybe much later on a partial IJN or RN CA/CL split or something. Plus Russian Tier 8 Premium 203mm CA Petropavlovsk at some point.

[josykay]

First the Italian Cruisers since mostly cruisers start of new nations. German and UK battlecruisers. Released on May 31. (Battle of Jutland) As the 2nd BB line splitting of at Tier  3, either of the cruiser or the BB.

Next the Pan Euopean cruises. Involving the entire rest of european nations, particulary spain, poland, scandinavian countries and denmark.

 

 

(Bonus: German Armored ships. Starting at tier 3 with SMS Roon, we venture to the SMS Scharnhorst, Blücher, Deutschland; D class, P class, O class. Since Siegfried comes...very unlikely.)

[MrFingers]

We still need everything Italian (BB's, DD's, CL's, CA's), there are still Japanese light cruisers to dip your toes in, British heavy cruisers, a parallel torpedo-heavy US DD line, a lot of interesting Spanish/Swedish/... ships,...

 

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[Sigimundus]

I'm very skeptical that next line will be anything Italian. On one side it is logical that Regia Marina should have complete tech tree in the game but unfortunately Italian authorities do not alow WG to check military archives so WG do not have any original planes for the ships. So it is very difficult to create these ships.

On the other side WG has very friendly link to Holland archives so my bet is that Pan Europan three will be next before any Italian ships.

[piet11111]

Pan european line followed by italian cruisers.

Then i expect a pan european dd line.

[WeGreedy]

Pan-Europe (hint: Blyskawica and Friesland)

[RAHJAILARI]

True all dat @Sigimundus. But, as we have recently witnessed (Russing BB line) WG does not really need any actual ship blueprints in order to come up with ships and there is plenty of public material available through internet on Italian ships, both actual and planned. Therefore I do not think this entirely impossible. So basically, I remain an optimist.

[Fat_Maniac]

8 minutes ago, Sigimundus said:

I'm very skeptical that next line will be anything Italian. On one side it is logical that Regia Marina should have complete tech tree in the game but unfortunately Italian authorities do not alow WG to check military archives so WG do not have any original planes for the ships. So it is very difficult to create these ships.

On the other side WG has very friendly link to Holland archives so my bet is that Pan Europan three will be next before any Italian ships.

In a live stream a couple of weeks back, WG all but confirmed Italian cruisers are coming soon.

 

Lines we don't have but which could filled.

 

RU CV's, it would be a total joke and paper designs but the RU server wants it

KM CV's.

Pan European Cruisers

Pan European DD's

 

Thats a lot for Europe and nothing for the rest of the world, so maybe a Pan American (non US) DD and cruiser line could be thought up.

 

 

Oh and lets not forget all the CV models for USN and IJN that got removed in the rework. Wg have said they would like to bring them back, as alternate CV lines. I'm thjinking as Fleet escort carriers maybe, with some sort of player interactive fighter play

[CptBarney]

My guess: Italian CL/CA line, French CV line, Italian BB/DD line, Russian CV line, KM CV line, Pan euro cruisers then DD's, Italian CV line, Pan euro BB's (yeah i know some of these nations can't fill all the gaps but that doesn't mean they can't have balanced ships even if they are made up.)

[josykay]

Just now, Fat_Maniac said:

In a live stream a couple of weeks back, WG all but confirmed Italian cruisers are coming soon.

 

Lines we don't have but which could filled.

 

RU CV's, it would be a total joke and paper designs but the RU server wants it

KM CV's.

Pan European Cruisers

Pan European DD's

 

Thats a lot for Europe and nothing for the rest of the world, so maybe a Pan American (non US) DD and cruiser line could be thought up.

 

I honestly think, that not everybody should get every ship class. For example France, Germany, Russia should not get CVs. On the other hand Germany,  UK, and USA could easily get multiple BB lines. Others multiple DD lines...

Maybe some rather unique designs for  a line, like Armored Cruisers/Panzerschiffe für Germany as a second cruiser ine, since those were the only ones building and planning that stuff in enough variaty, to justify a techtree after WW1. Also, Deutschland is very iconic.

[Fat_Maniac]

2 minutes ago, josykay said:

I honestly think, that not everybody should get every ship class. For example France, Germany, Russia should not get CVs.

RU shouldn'y have gotten BB's they are virtually all paper designs.

 

But WG will give its customers what it thinks they will buy and make money for them in return.

[josykay]

9 minutes ago, Fat_Maniac said:

RU shouldn'y have gotten BB's they are virtually all paper designs.

 

But WG will give its customers what it thinks they will buy and make money for them in return.

At least most have some sort of historical value.  Though, I have to question some decissions. Like, Why the hell do you use that paper BC as Tier 5, not... you know  Sevastopol? (And replace Gangut with an Imperatryitsma Maryia).

(Same went for the French. No Dunkerque class in the tech tree? Like WTF? Place Strasbourg at tier 7, with a fast 22-24 second reload, and 1.8 Sigma. Would fit better than Lyon)

[invicta2012]

Italian everything, pan European cruisers and destroyers, Pan American cruisers and destroyers, British, French and Commonwealth heavy cruisers / AA cruisers, Battlecruisers, odd Tier CVs... Lots to come yet. 

[Azalgor]

RM CA sort of will follow French DD, but Soviet CV will be relieced prior to RM BB and DD as there are still too few paper phantom navys.

[Beastofwar]

Italian BB and DD should be next if logic is concerned......UK were not for nothing so afraid of them ( if met on sea in a sea battle ) in the Mediterranean theatre that they planned and executed a traitorous attack on them. They can even have some more-then-paper-design CV....

 

Makes you wonder.....when Japan does that to the US it is an "act of infamy that will never be forgotten" but when UK does that to Italian fleet no one speaks of a infamy or traiterous while it was a surprise attack in port too that sank or damaged many warships and cost hundereds if not thousands of sailors their lives....probably most after a rude awakening from sleep.

[NoirLotus]

We are still waiting for the italian ships, at leadt 3 branches, a panEU line is quite probable, maybe also a panAmerican or Commonwealth.

 

But don't forget the alternative CV lines for US and Japan, and with only 4 ships needed, you can count on WG to create CV lines for France, Italy and USSR.

 

Some split branches are possible for US DD I think, or if WG goes for Battlecruisers lines.

[hellhound666]

39 minutes ago, Beastofwar said:

Italian BB and DD should be next if logic is concerned......

your logic is well known ...

[Spunyarn]

53 minutes ago, Beastofwar said:

Italian BB and DD should be next if logic is concerned......UK were not for nothing so afraid of them ( if met on sea in a sea battle ) in the Mediterranean theatre that they planned and executed a traitorous attack on them. They can even have some more-then-paper-design CV....

 

Makes you wonder.....when Japan does that to the US it is an "act of infamy that will never be forgotten" but when UK does that to Italian fleet no one speaks of a infamy or traiterous while it was a surprise attack in port too that sank or damaged many warships and cost hundereds if not thousands of sailors their lives....probably most after a rude awakening from sleep.

 

The Imperial Japanese Navy launched the attack on Pearl Harbor before the declaration of war, and even if their declaration had not been delayed they had intended to give something like an hour's warning.

 

The Royal Navy launched the attack on Taranto months after Italy had joined Germany in the war and British and Italian troops had been fighting in North Africa since then as well as the naval fighting in the Mediterranean.

 

So, no. It doesn't make me wonder.

[miso_horny]

I hope German and Soviet CVs comming soon.

[Redcap375]

8 minutes ago, airsickgeoduck said:

I hope German and Soviet CVs comming soon.

 

 

On a serious note...Prob French DD line. Then it should be an Italian line.  DD's, CA, BB's whatever, just a Italian line. Then looking at heavy British cruisers.

 

Even though i'm not Dutch, i would like to see some sort of Dutch line to tip their hat to their services during WW2.

 

[Centurion_1711]

28 minutes ago, Redcap375 said:

Even though i'm not Dutch, i would like to see some sort of Dutch line to tip their hat to their services during WW2.

I agree with that. French DD's should be followed up with a Dutch cruiser line, I think they have enough ships to mostly fill a tree, enough that they don't need to be a part of the Pan-Euro tree. And anyway, a couple of blueprint designs at the top are no issue, we have more than that in other trees cough USSR BB's cough. Still, the Italians need some sort of representation as well. I'd like to say these will be in the near future too.

 

Whatever happens, please no Dutch ships in the Pan-Euro line!

[Pametrada]

1 hour ago, Beastofwar said:

Italian BB and DD should be next if logic is concerned......UK were not for nothing so afraid of them ( if met on sea in a sea battle ) in the Mediterranean theatre that they planned and executed a traitorous attack on them. They can even have some more-then-paper-design CV....

 

Makes you wonder.....when Japan does that to the US it is an "act of infamy that will never be forgotten" but when UK does that to Italian fleet no one speaks of a infamy or traiterous while it was a surprise attack in port too that sank or damaged many warships and cost hundereds if not thousands of sailors their lives....probably most after a rude awakening from sleep.

My goodness, quite the naval historian, aren't you.

 

I've just read through your post two or three times - what on earth are you on about ? Taranto was traitorous ( treacherous ) ? So please tell us -  at who was the treachery directed, considering that Britain and Italy were at war ? Attacking ships in harbour has been a naval tactic for as long as navies have existed. The Italians did exactly that at Alexandria, mining the battleships Queen Elizabeth and Valiant, the destroyer Jervis and the Norwegian tanker Sagon.

 

No, there were not 'hundreds if not thousands' of deaths at Taranto - the figure for total Italian deaths varies from source to source, but was considerably less than a hundred. One source states 59 killed and 600 injured

 

And no, the RN wasn't afraid of the Regia Marina - they respected it, and had no doubts they would fight well, but they weren't afraid of it. Read up on the battle of Cape Matapan, as an example.

 

[Bear__Necessities]

I see captain clueless is chiming in on this thread huh...

 

Anyway back to point I really want to see Italian ships. They are all stunning. As long as Subs are never planned for randoms etc I’d also be happy.

[Jethro_Grey]

You guys forgot the famous Swiss Alpine Navy! Heresy I say! 

 

 

Also subs. A ship class way more suited for this game than CVs.