The new premium ship policy

[22cm]

I guess the new best-selling item for WG is the tier 9 premiums. 

Probably, because of the fuked-up MM on tier 8,  players don t buy tier 8 premiums anymore. Why would any sane (in his mind) person pay 40-50 euros for the privilege to be the bottom tier in more then half of the games?! 

So, instead of admitting they ruined the MM, WG is marketing tier 9 premiums now, who can be obtained by a load of resources, or by cash in premium shop. 

Now, when Black and Missouri came as the first tier 9 premiums, you could not buy them with money at all. But you can buy all this avalanche of tier 9 premiums, and, which is even better, you have to pay more, cause they are a tier higher.

Lets hope WG will not start selling tier 10 premiums... 

[gslick]

18 minutes ago, 22cm said:

Now, when Black and Missouri came as the first tier 9 premiums, you could not buy them with money at all. But you can buy all this avalanche of tier 9 premiums, and, which is even better, you have to pay more, cause they are a tier higher.

Lets hope WG will not start selling tier 10 premiums... 

Its only a matter of time.  I have given up on depending on any consistency by WG from  one day to the next. 

[CptBarney]

In before tiers 11 and 12 are a thing and they sell premiums at that level. i reckon a tier 10 ship will cost like £80's for BB's £75 for cruisers and £65 for DD's (maybe).

 

Mind you wargaming promises one thing and gives you something else entirely (or the opposite)

[Smeggo]

I'm with you OP, sadly T8-MM has gone utterly bad - but on the other hand as long as I can get these ships simply by playing (coal/free XP) I cannot complain. 

[veslingr]

1 hour ago, 22cm said:

I guess the new best-selling item for WG is the tier 9 premiums. 

Probably, because of the fuked-up MM on tier 8,  players don t buy tier 8 premiums anymore. Why would any sane (in his mind) person pay 40-50 euros for the privilege to be the bottom tier in more then half of the games?! 

So, instead of admitting they ruined the MM, WG is marketing tier 9 premiums now, who can be obtained by a load of resources, or by cash in premium shop. 

Now, when Black and Missouri came as the first tier 9 premiums, you could not buy them with money at all. But you can buy all this avalanche of tier 9 premiums, and, which is even better, you have to pay more, cause they are a tier higher.

Lets hope WG will not start selling tier 10 premiums... 

let them sell if or money, why not....just leave some ships obtainable only thrue competitive game play (steel)

[ClappingLollies]

You could in a way buy MO. Convert free XP. Although i agree. T8 should be the highest tier you can buy. Also, you should lose credits by playing T10s. I can play a T10 ship without premium and still earn 200-300k. No point playing lower tiers when you can play top tier and earn a bunch of credits. 

[Pekoe_Darjeeling]

People playing this game are so bad at tier 10 it doesn't matter what tier of ship they are selling anymore.

[Gnirf]

2 hours ago, veslingr said:

let them sell if or money, why not....just leave some ships obtainable only thrue competitive game play (steel)

I guess we can always have for example the Super-Yamato only obtainable for those with over 25.000 battles so that no inappropriate figures can get her.

 

This game has a lot of naval fans among its players so it is unwise to restrict ships in the long run, first obtainable perhaps or as prizes but not exclusivity. And it should be alternative ways to get same ship.

[CptBarney]

6 minutes ago, Gnirf said:

I guess we can always have for example the Super-Yamato only obtainable for those with over 25.000 battles so that no inappropriate figures can get her.

 

This game has a lot of naval fans among its players so it is unwise to restrict ships in the long run, first obtainable perhaps or as prizes but not exclusivity. And it should be alternative ways to get same ship.

I want that german ship with 20 inch guns as well if they ever add the super yammy.

[piet11111]

I apreciate that wg gives us different options to purchase her coal and money.

 

[Bortasqu]

But...but! If WG doesn't sell T9 premiums, Viktor can't swim in his 24 karate private swimming pool.

 

How could you not think of his welfare guys..

 

#DeleteT9PremiumsFromShop

[Hedgehog1963]

How much did I pay for Yukikaze?  Can't recall.  lets say £35.  Totally worth it.  Having a great time and actually don't mind being "bottom tier," at all.

 

 

I just bought Georgia.  Didn't cost me anything except an in- game currency.

[___V_E_N_O_M___]

2 hours ago, Hedgehog1963 said:

How much did I pay for Yukikaze?  Can't recall.  lets say £35.  Totally worth it.  Having a great time and actually don't mind being "bottom tier," at all.

 

 

I just bought Georgia.  Didn't cost me anything except an in- game currency.

[22cm]

43 minutes ago, ___V_E_N_O_M___ said:

Let me translate for him:

You mean carriers will piss on him?! 

[havaduck]

14 hours ago, 22cm said:

Probably, because of the fuked-up MM on tier 8,  players don t buy tier 8 premiums anymore.

 

Dont forget the fact that T7 had (at least 6 months ago) a reputation of being still "playable" so ofc WG wants to fix that. Sell enough T9s, ruin T7 - mission accomplished.

 

These sort of p2w economies are always geared towards either the highest tier (or T9 premiums in this case that can play T10 without being pure food; and farm T8 + 7 as pure food ofc) or .......... you suffer. Pick your poison.

 

Ofc WG also doesnt want people to see how shitty their scheme is before they are hooked, before they are invested and are more likely to stay. Therefore everything is T5 and up when it comes to events/missions. Doesnt keep ALL the sealclubbers away ofc but imagine a mission marathon: Get 100 wins. Condition: RU Battleships. If that was the case: Somerwhere in the distance I can hear the turbines of triple OPerat0r divisions starting to fire up .....

 

50 minutes ago, ___V_E_N_O_M___ said:

 

 

 

Those are the 2 which I remember from back in the day ..... (second one is the better one because of  "REEEEEEEE")

[___V_E_N_O_M___]

41 minutes ago, 22cm said:

Let me translate for him:

You mean carriers will piss on him?! 

These are down votes ;)

[Ragnarox]

I dont care if they sell it for money and in game currency. 

[Hopeless_Guppy]

15 hours ago, veslingr said:

let them sell if or money, why not....just leave some ships obtainable only thrue competitive game play (steel)

That is indeed a good idea, but then you get every potato in the game going into ranked wanting some steel, same reasons why people want to rush to tie X, the  want the top dogs in their ports, and we all know of the furore rental ships have caused.

 

My other thoughts on tier 9 premiums is that really premiums should stop at tier 8, but as they are there, too late now to stop the flood, now if they sold the Black, the Flint and the Missouri for cash, can you imagine the revenue what would flow into their vodka palaces, let alone the shitstorm from the community.

[MyopicHedgehog]

NoobySkooby, if MM wasn't so tragic for T8, then sure.  Unfortunately there is such a power gap between T8 and certain T10 ships that I can understand people not touching T8 premiums.

 

Play is also just as tragic (if not moreso) at T10 compared to T8 so what's the big deal really?

 

Steel ships should be a variant of an already existing ship that is not more powerful than a silver/premium ship but just gives a different play experience.  The last thing the game needs is better players with OP ships.

[Admiral_H_Nelson]

On 6/14/2019 at 6:06 PM, MortenTardo said:

You could in a way buy MO. Convert free XP. Although i agree. T8 should be the highest tier you can buy. Also, you should lose credits by playing T10s. I can play a T10 ship without premium and still earn 200-300k. No point playing lower tiers when you can play top tier and earn a bunch of credits. 

There are a couple of major drawbacks with that plan, regardless of any other advantages it has.

a) Ranked battles at tier 10

b) Clan battles at tier 10

Lots of players will react angily at having to pay to take part in ranked and clan battles, and refuse to play.

The major thrust of all the competiitions and rewards from Wargaming is to get people to play more, so such a move runs totally contrary to what they want to achieve.

[BlackYeti]

23 hours ago, CptBarney said:

I want that german ship with 20 inch guns as well if they ever add the super yammy.

With that size you could probably blindfire a map sector where it was last spotted and score hits...

[LowSpeedHighDrag]

Who gives a damn anymore. This will turn into another "He said, she said" drama. I'm sure Missouri had its moment on the forums when it was out (I'm quite sure it did).

 

What would really fix the issue with Tier 8 battles? I'd say limit the Ship to -1/+1. 

 

 

[Obsessive_Compulsive]

Forgive me here, I have dedicated thousands of hours to WOT. I played there since closed beta and knowing what has happened there I can see what has and will happen here. The model is flawed, like all models...

 

There is no easy fix. Roll with the punches of install the plane game...

[ClappingLollies]

On 6/15/2019 at 8:51 PM, Admiral_H_Nelson said:

There are a couple of major drawbacks with that plan, regardless of any other advantages it has.

a) Ranked battles at tier 10

b) Clan battles at tier 10

Lots of players will react angily at having to pay to take part in ranked and clan battles, and refuse to play.

The major thrust of all the competiitions and rewards from Wargaming is to get people to play more, so such a move runs totally contrary to what they want to achieve.

Easy fix. Move ranked and clanwars away from T10. Back to T8 as it was planned back in the day. 

[You_Overextended]

I don't see the issue. Honestly, there are lots of T8s I enjoy very much even with T10 MM. Things like Edinburgh are rough to play, though, especially considering the vast majority of DDs do not give a crap about spotting. In fact, the latter is exactly why I play DD a lot more now than ever. The skill gap is fun to exploit :P