Suicidesid_1 Players 3 posts 1,601 battles Report post #1 Posted June 8, 2019 I'm about to delete my account and stop playing but wanted to post this first (and check it does go up, not get hidden by the mods, so if my account is still live in a few days, it's because i just dont want them saying "screw it, he's gone, pull it, he'll never know") , and im the sort of "pay to win" potato player WG love, regular doubloons to transfer free xp etc (just bought a premium Jap DD yesterday to train my DD captains for example). But its the ultimate sign of insanity to keep doing the same thing over and over again and expect a different result. What am I talking about? CV's...I can't beat them...they see me, in a DD/cruiser/BB and over a few waves...I'm dead. AA does nothing to them of note, I no longer enjoy a game, and after all that's why i play...to enjoy it. When I get that rare game with no air...its like old times, tactics matter, then i get 10-15 in a row with Cv's with most having 2 CV in them (who in their tiny mind thought "I know, CV is op as all hell..so lets put 2 in!!" ) and all your doing is watching the map and trying to avoid being detected, which is a waste of time as they can cover the whole bloody map..so game play goes out the window...you die in 4 minutes then have to sit for 10-15 mins waiting to play that ship again (I focus on each line and work up it) last ship left alive in either team is always the CV, and if it's not capped we have the joy of sitting there until the timer runs out as they are hiding way out of range..I would have more fun pulling my own teeth! So it is, with regret, I must bid farewell to WG, obviously player enjoyment is not part of their model, but it is part of mine. If things change I might re-activate but who knows by then i may be into another war game multi-player from another source..;) 6 2 6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TF57] Fatal_Ramses Players 1,300 posts Report post #2 Posted June 8, 2019 Sad to see players go, but its the only way to make WG react to this mess of CV/AA/MM problems this game is having. I think a lot of the grief would be solved if they tied CV mm to only -1/+1 tiers and only 1 CV per game. Every VII game I played yesterday was against IXs its just not fun. Stopped playing tier VI and VIII few weeks into the CV rework. Operations...its been almost half a year and we still have only these 4 running. CMON BRING EM BACK! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[THESO] SV_Kompresor Beta Tester, Players, In AlfaTesters 5,868 posts Report post #3 Posted June 8, 2019 Well I've been taking a break from wows (not the forums though) for about a month or two now (by a break I mean I play wows one or two matches every week at most now) simply because wargaming managed to wear me out with all these consecutive events that force you to play wows in order to get the rewards. At first it was nice but now It's become quite tedious, especially because the missions force you to try and kill secure and so on... I'm the kind of player who always got most of the main rewards at these types of events but no more. Events imo should be say once a month or once every two months and yes, nobody is forcing you to do it, but then it makes you feel like you're missing out on something (which you are). That doesn't mean I'll ever permanently stop playing wows but I am taking a break aswell; with an ocasional match. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[UAC] Filipin00 Players 662 posts 2,569 battles Report post #4 Posted June 8, 2019 5 hours ago, Suicidesid_1 said: I'm about to delete my account and stop playing but wanted to post this first (and check it does go up, not get hidden by the mods, so if my account is still live in a few days, it's because i just dont want them saying "screw it, he's gone, pull it, he'll never know") , and im the sort of "pay to win" potato player WG love, regular doubloons to transfer free xp etc (just bought a premium Jap DD yesterday to train my DD captains for example). But its the ultimate sign of insanity to keep doing the same thing over and over again and expect a different result. What am I talking about? CV's...I can't beat them...they see me, in a DD/cruiser/BB and over a few waves...I'm dead. AA does nothing to them of note, I no longer enjoy a game, and after all that's why i play...to enjoy it. When I get that rare game with no air...its like old times, tactics matter, then i get 10-15 in a row with Cv's with most having 2 CV in them (who in their tiny mind thought "I know, CV is op as all hell..so lets put 2 in!!" ) and all your doing is watching the map and trying to avoid being detected, which is a waste of time as they can cover the whole bloody map..so game play goes out the window...you die in 4 minutes then have to sit for 10-15 mins waiting to play that ship again (I focus on each line and work up it) last ship left alive in either team is always the CV, and if it's not capped we have the joy of sitting there until the timer runs out as they are hiding way out of range..I would have more fun pulling my own teeth! So it is, with regret, I must bid farewell to WG, obviously player enjoyment is not part of their model, but it is part of mine. If things change I might re-activate but who knows by then i may be into another war game multi-player from another source..;) In the words of a great man: "Time and the world do not stand still. Change is the law of life. And those who look only to the past or the present are certain to miss the future." What I meant by this is, when things change, you either adapt, or cry and [edited] about it on the forum. You think I don't mourn the times WoT was in the beginning, when there was no soviet bias, no imaginary/fantasy OP tanks and such? I do, do I [edited] about it online? I don't. Simple. I don't get it why people find easier to constantly complain on everything. Adapt, change your playstyle, if that's too hard for you grey cells then find something less of a challenge for yourself and/or something that requires less brain power. 1 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Suicidesid_1 Players 3 posts 1,601 battles Report post #5 Posted June 8, 2019 8 hours ago, Filipin00 said: In the words of a great man: "Time and the world do not stand still. Change is the law of life. And those who look only to the past or the present are certain to miss the future." What I meant by this is, when things change, you either adapt, or cry and [edited] about it on the forum. You think I don't mourn the times WoT was in the beginning, when there was no soviet bias, no imaginary/fantasy OP tanks and such? I do, do I [edited] about it online? I don't. Simple. I don't get it why people find easier to constantly complain on everything. Adapt, change your playstyle, if that's too hard for you grey cells then find something less of a challenge for yourself and/or something that requires less brain power. I had written a long reply..then I checked your stats...43% CV player in 939 battles....says it all. the only people happy with things as they are 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[UAC] Filipin00 Players 662 posts 2,569 battles Report post #6 Posted June 8, 2019 31 minutes ago, Suicidesid_1 said: I had written a long reply..then I checked your stats...43% CV player in 939 battles....says it all. the only people happy with things as they are Read that again, then check both of ours stats one more time. Also I don't play only CV's I play other type of ships and for that matter I can counter and out-smart enemy CV players most of the time(you know...because I am one...and I know lot of tricks they may use) 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[UNICS] loppantorkel Players 4,506 posts 15,942 battles Report post #7 Posted June 8, 2019 13 hours ago, Suicidesid_1 said: I'm about to delete my account and stop playing but wanted to post this first (and check it does go up, not get hidden by the mods, so if my account is still live in a few days, it's because i just dont want them saying "screw it, he's gone, pull it, he'll never know") , and im the sort of "pay to win" potato player WG love, regular doubloons to transfer free xp etc (just bought a premium Jap DD yesterday to train my DD captains for example). But its the ultimate sign of insanity to keep doing the same thing over and over again and expect a different result. What am I talking about? CV's...I can't beat them...they see me, in a DD/cruiser/BB and over a few waves...I'm dead. AA does nothing to them of note, I no longer enjoy a game, and after all that's why i play...to enjoy it. When I get that rare game with no air...its like old times, tactics matter, then i get 10-15 in a row with Cv's with most having 2 CV in them (who in their tiny mind thought "I know, CV is op as all hell..so lets put 2 in!!" ) and all your doing is watching the map and trying to avoid being detected, which is a waste of time as they can cover the whole bloody map..so game play goes out the window...you die in 4 minutes then have to sit for 10-15 mins waiting to play that ship again (I focus on each line and work up it) last ship left alive in either team is always the CV, and if it's not capped we have the joy of sitting there until the timer runs out as they are hiding way out of range..I would have more fun pulling my own teeth! So it is, with regret, I must bid farewell to WG, obviously player enjoyment is not part of their model, but it is part of mine. If things change I might re-activate but who knows by then i may be into another war game multi-player from another source..;) Could try other ships or strategies. If all fails, just wait and see how things are when cv rework is fully balanced. Some ships are in a bad place as things are, but these ships should get buffed or meta balanced in time. I'd have some patience and come back in a few months if you haven't found something better. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[A41] _Agent_ [A41] Players 55 posts 9,203 battles Report post #8 Posted June 8, 2019 well WG wanted to change the meta to keep the game alive(at least from watching the WG stream is the info sent out) and that change will lose some people and gain some people I am sure the same will happen once subs join the ranks and the meta changes once again. Maybe you will enjoy it then. I myself stopped playing for over a year or so a couple of times because i dindt enjoy the current meta/got bored Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-TPF-] invicta2012 Players 6,382 posts 26,855 battles Report post #9 Posted June 8, 2019 17 hours ago, Suicidesid_1 said: So it is, with regret, I must bid farewell to WG, obviously player enjoyment is not part of their model, but it is part of mine. If things change I might re-activate but who knows by then i may be into another war game multi-player from another source..;) Ah, matey. Don't give up. The CV population has dropped over the last couple of weeks, people are getting the hang of anti-CV tactics, there are plenty of bits of the game you can play and still have fun and improve. Don't be embarrassed about going down to Tiers III, IV and V - those tiers are competitive and fun, no pressure, and CVs are weak. Operations are entertaining enough if you want guaranteed no-CVs. Take a look at some CC videos for tactics on how to play DDs against CVs - Notser's Le Fantasque video is very good on this score. Oh, and try some American and Royal Navy destroyers. They are much better than IJN ones in the current game. You'd like them! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[UAC] Filipin00 Players 662 posts 2,569 battles Report post #10 Posted June 9, 2019 I don't know how people who play DDs complain about CVs being OP and all.....literally at tier 8 every time I try to attack a DD they are so stealthy I legit spot them only when it's too late to commence an attack, or even if I do start attack in time they dodge all the rockets/bombs I drop on them. And then even if I hit something they quickly smoke up and abracadabra invisible...... I'd go as far as to say DDs are the ones that are OP in WoWS not carriers. I can defend against carriers better than against DDs. At least you can shoot down planes and even if they hit you they don't do as much damage....DD unleashes 20 torpedoes in your direction and even hydro doesn't help you when you rudder shift time is slower than the glacial movements on antarctica....... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CROTZ] AirSupremacy Beta Tester 1,209 posts 12,485 battles Report post #11 Posted June 9, 2019 2 or 3 good DD players often sink half a team. Get Gud! Happy WoWs everyone :) 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[WGP2W] LemonadeWarriorITA [WGP2W] Beta Tester 1,669 posts 8,186 battles Report post #12 Posted June 9, 2019 4 minutes ago, AirSupremacy said: 2 or 3 good DD players often sink half a team. Get Gud! Happy WoWs everyone :) Often? Dam, I should start playing a bit again to witness these improvements of the DD player base myself. Anyhow, no one said DD play is impossible. The only complaint is that playing DDs currently ain't fun when you take a crap load of damage from a potato flatdeck. (because, you know, the brain dead rockets) 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[PONYD] Igarigen Beta Tester 7,985 posts 12,672 battles Report post #13 Posted June 9, 2019 I thought about a reply, but then i checked the Stats of TE and read this 15 hours ago, Suicidesid_1 said: I had written a long reply..then I checked your stats...43% CV player in 939 battles....says it all. the only people happy with things as they are 47 % Winrate overall, and horrible with all Ships. I doubt the Teams will miss you. 1 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CROTZ] AirSupremacy Beta Tester 1,209 posts 12,485 battles Report post #14 Posted June 9, 2019 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TU] Seaman_Staines1 Players 489 posts 18,116 battles Report post #15 Posted June 9, 2019 12 hours ago, Igarigen said: I doubt the Teams will miss you. This is not a team game never has been never will be. I hate the elitists that think you're stats prove anything. People like you are driving others away from the game, you have nothing of value to add nothing. “Wise men speak because they have something to say; fools because they have to say something.” Plato. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[PONYD] Igarigen Beta Tester 7,985 posts 12,672 battles Report post #16 Posted June 10, 2019 12 hours ago, Scipio_Africanus1829 said: This is not a team game never has been never will be. I hate the elitists that think you're stats prove anything. People like you are driving others away from the game, you have nothing of value to add nothing. “Wise men speak because they have something to say; fools because they have to say something.” Plato. Well.. it is a Teamgame. In Match a Team plays vs another Team. Only Egoists deny that. So, the Plato Phrase matches perfect on you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[UAC] Filipin00 Players 662 posts 2,569 battles Report post #17 Posted June 10, 2019 3 hours ago, Igarigen said: Well.. it is a Teamgame. In Match a Team plays vs another Team. Only Egoists deny that. So, the Plato Phrase matches perfect on you. I'm sorry but you're full of [insert bad word here]. First of all this is not WoT and nobody cares about the rating. Second of all, not one player of this game has started playing it and immediately became a pro overnight. Also the fact that 12 players enter a battle against 12 other players does not make it a team game. You can have team, but if those players are not coordinated then you don't have a team, but a bunch of people playing a broken telephone game trying to figure out what each player wants to do and all in a couple of minutes.... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[PONYD] Igarigen Beta Tester 7,985 posts 12,672 battles Report post #18 Posted June 10, 2019 3 minutes ago, Filipin00 said: I'm sorry but you're full of [insert bad word here]. First of all this is not WoT and nobody cares about the rating. Second of all, not one player of this game has started playing it and immediately became a pro overnight. Also the fact that 12 players enter a battle against 12 other players does not make it a team game. You can have team, but if those players are not coordinated then you don't have a team, but a bunch of people playing a broken telephone game trying to figure out what each player wants to do and all in a couple of minutes.... Dont forget i was not the one that startet with Stats Shaming, it was the TE himself. But i agree, two ppl doing the same is not the same. At least not for some ppl. But thats ok, keep loosing and blaming others for it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TU] Seaman_Staines1 Players 489 posts 18,116 battles Report post #19 Posted June 10, 2019 54 minutes ago, Igarigen said: Dont forget i was not the one that startet with Stats Shaming, Rubbish. At some point you always do it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[PONYD] Igarigen Beta Tester 7,985 posts 12,672 battles Report post #20 Posted June 10, 2019 53 minutes ago, Scipio_Africanus1829 said: Rubbish. At some point you always do it. Really? Show me, my posts in english part of the Forum are litte few. And not much of them are stats shaming. But you know, like i said. Some can do it and players agree, and others do it and players cry like now in this thread. Well i dont care at all. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OddityNZ Beta Tester 110 posts 6,474 battles Report post #21 Posted June 10, 2019 On 6/8/2019 at 8:54 AM, domen3 said: Well I've been taking a break from wows (not the forums though) for about a month or two now (by a break I mean I play wows one or two matches every week at most now) simply because wargaming managed to wear me out with all these consecutive events that force you to play wows in order to get the rewards. At first it was nice but now It's become quite tedious, especially because the missions force you to try and kill secure and so on... I'm the kind of player who always got most of the main rewards at these types of events but no more. Events imo should be say once a month or once every two months and yes, nobody is forcing you to do it, but then it makes you feel like you're missing out on something (which you are). That doesn't mean I'll ever permanently stop playing wows but I am taking a break aswell; with an ocasional match. This sums it up for me, By the time I grinded to get the PEF, Exeter I wasn't enjoying the game. WG were still doing interesting missions with the Soviet BB's but as much as I wanted to participate as a casual player I just couldn't do it anymore, by the time the missions were done I didn't have the time or inclination to play my usual "fun" ships. I think that's the whole point of the containers so that as well as the regular whales and hardcore players casuals can buy their way into a headstart as well. CALM DOWN WG !!! throw in some double XP weekends and cut back on all the events because we know you have 20 Premium ships inbound as well to get more cash from (Along with premium 10's you said you would never do). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Suicidesid_1 Players 3 posts 1,601 battles Report post #22 Posted June 10, 2019 personally I don't think 47.85 winrate and 0.7 kill rate is that bad at 800 odd games played..at 7800 i would be worried, but at 800..nahhh...I viewed it I was still learning each class, yes i make mistakes but i learn from those mistakes..didn't even own 1 tier 10 and had 1 tier 9 (which i hardly played as felt i was letting the team down playing at that level..didn't feel i knew enough) . But as for me "stat shaming" hardly, one who lives in a glass house does not throw rocks , just was pointing out the poster was very much a CV player which would slant their view. But stat shaming someone who admits they are a bad player in their original post..well..go for it...for everyone heres my stats, have a laugh 861 battles played, 47.85wr av xp per battle 847 av dmg 27,176 kill ratio 0.7 warship types 63.41% BB, 13.47% cruisers, 23.11% DD, 75% UK (i'm British so playing the RN first was an obvious choice) only 6 High caliber and 1 Kraken Average tier 6.2 ......there ya go stat shamed myself. My best ship interestingly enough was my tier 8 BB the KG5th (or so my stats say) ."It's only a game, being good at it does not improve my career or status in life, if it does yours...then great, this was my "escape time" from life..not the pinnacle of it" - Suicidesid_1 on that note I will now seriously back off, didn't expect such a S^&* show over this, CV's are OP..in my own personal view, and i choose not to play with them in their current form, i hope other players take the same stance, as with any business money talks, and a shrinking customer base makes people take notice...if that doesn't happen and Cv's dont change...well there's always monopoly :) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TU] Seaman_Staines1 Players 489 posts 18,116 battles Report post #23 Posted June 10, 2019 5 hours ago, Igarigen said: Really? Show me, my posts in english part of the Forum are litte few. And not much of them are stats shaming. But you know, like i said. Some can do it and players agree, and others do it and players cry like now in this thread. Well i dont care at all. OK..had enough Igarigen replied to Suicidesid_1's topic in Current Update I thought about a reply, but then i checked the Stats of TE and read this 47 % Winrate overall, and horrible with all Ships. I doubt the Teams will miss you. Would you like more. I speak perfect German having lived in Berlin for 15 years and have looked at all your posts on the German forum. You are obsessed with other players stats. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
anonym_WQDIB9XrzbSp Players 495 posts Report post #24 Posted June 10, 2019 On 6/8/2019 at 5:05 AM, Suicidesid_1 said: I'm about to delete my account and stop playing but wanted to post this first (and check it does go up, not get hidden by the mods, so if my account is still live in a few days, it's because i just dont want them saying "screw it, he's gone, pull it, he'll never know") , and im the sort of "pay to win" potato player WG love, regular doubloons to transfer free xp etc (just bought a premium Jap DD yesterday to train my DD captains for example). But its the ultimate sign of insanity to keep doing the same thing over and over again and expect a different result. What am I talking about? CV's...I can't beat them...they see me, in a DD/cruiser/BB and over a few waves...I'm dead. AA does nothing to them of note, I no longer enjoy a game, and after all that's why i play...to enjoy it. When I get that rare game with no air...its like old times, tactics matter, then i get 10-15 in a row with Cv's with most having 2 CV in them (who in their tiny mind thought "I know, CV is op as all hell..so lets put 2 in!!" ) and all your doing is watching the map and trying to avoid being detected, which is a waste of time as they can cover the whole bloody map..so game play goes out the window...you die in 4 minutes then have to sit for 10-15 mins waiting to play that ship again (I focus on each line and work up it) last ship left alive in either team is always the CV, and if it's not capped we have the joy of sitting there until the timer runs out as they are hiding way out of range..I would have more fun pulling my own teeth! So it is, with regret, I must bid farewell to WG, obviously player enjoyment is not part of their model, but it is part of mine. If things change I might re-activate but who knows by then i may be into another war game multi-player from another source..;) Too hysterical and overtly whiney Bye then, good luck to you. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[PONYD] Igarigen Beta Tester 7,985 posts 12,672 battles Report post #25 Posted June 11, 2019 8 hours ago, Scipio_Africanus1829 said: ()... have looked at all your posts on the German Forum....() Sure you did And yes show me more (from somewhere else then THIS thread , you could do it via PM but i dont care where you do it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites