[SCRUB] Leo_Apollo11 Quality Poster 7,146 posts 31,562 battles Report post #1 Posted June 6, 2019 Hi all, Interestingly enough we really have quite a big number of (hopefully) upcoming new ships... Quote Current Work in Progress "Premium ships" - June 2019 Wow, a three month long streak of remembering to do these premium posts. This is the most committed I have managed to stay to anything in my life so far. Before the ship splurge I want to point out the ratio of premiums in this list for T2-8 when compared to T9-10: 9 to 10. That's a hell of a lot of high tier premiums. Having such an influx of T9/10 premiums is, in my opinion, a very double edged sword. On the negative side, it detracts from low tier, affordable premium ships (cough, it's why Yahagi and such are being held back, so new low tiers don't need to be made), and thus pushing out the playerbase that can't afford the time to grind or the cost to buy, or both. However, if WG sets up the purchase methods right (not a load of steel walls for all of them) then the problem of a lack of variety that led to the overpopulation of Musashis/Kronshtadts - and even what we see with Jean Barts and Salems now - will finally be alleviated, with players not possibly having enough coal/steel/free xp to get every one of these ships upon release. Whether you guys are for or against this change in premium production I cannot tell, however I for one am glad that the era of the binary "Salem or Jean Bart" posts is likely coming to an end. Super old ships: Yahagi - T5 Japanese CL Viribus Unitus - T5 Pan-EU BB (Note: Currently German, heavily hinted at being released as Pan-European once Blyskawica is moved and Friesland is released) Leone - T6 Italian DD Indomitable - T8 British CV Old ships: Yudachi - T7 Japanese DD Bayard - T8 French CL Benham - T9 United States DD Georgia - T9 United States BB Yoshino - T10 Japanese CA Current ships: Siroco - T5 French DD (Note: Basically copy paste T4 DD (Bourrasque) with reload booster a tier higher) Hill - T5 United States DD Somers - T10 United States DD Colbert - T10 French CL Smolensk - T10 Russian CL (Note: Slava is in testing, will be a tech tree T10 - not a premium ship) Near-Future ships: Ark Royal - T6 British CV Friesland - T9 Pan-EU DD (Note: Upon release of 0.8.5, she will be Polish, upon public release post testing the Polish nation will become the Pan-European nation) Siegfried - T9 German CA Hayate - T10 Japanese DD Thunderer - T10 British BB Confirmed sources of purchase: Yoshino - Coal in Armory Georgia - Coal in Armory Slava - Tech tree, researchable from Sovetsky Soyuz My personal predicted sources of purchase (unconfirmed): Hill - Freemium, never existed, basically the love child of a Mahan and Nicholas, basically no hype and no one would buy her for cash Siroco - Freemium, released in relatively easy mission chain or campaign to coincide with the release of the French DD line Viribus Unitus - Freemium or cash, low tier way to get players access to the Pan-EU tree before a tech tree line (DDs) is released in the far future Bayard - Cash, Gascogne and Le Terrible (in release state) as T8 cash premiums for France flopped, WG needs a new T8 ship to fill that slot Hayate and Thunderer - From what I have read this is a popular guess for both of these ships - both becoming alternate T10s in their nations akin to Slava with the Russian BB line. Seeing how WG did state on the Slava announcement that splits like hers will be likely seen in the future, it isn't a far stretch to say that Thunderer will be the replacement for 457mm Conqueror and Hayate will be a sort of "in the middle" DD of the extremes that are Shimakaze and Harugumo. Future of these posts: Oh hey an unnecessary addition after posting that I felt like doing. Honestly I quite like making these posts, keeps me on my toes for what ships to look out for on the horizon and keeps others aware as well. I have decided to stop adding "old" ship sections after the "super old ships" because I'd rather not keep trying to emphasize age every patch when a new set of test ships appears. Seeing how WG is deliberately holding back Yahagi, Viribus Unitus, and Leone akin to how T-61 was held back, we're likely not going to see those ships be released for a while. So every patch there will likely be an addition of new ships to the "super old ships" section due to WG's new method of holding back ships until the time is right. I may add in a new "old" section in the future if the oldest section begins to get clogged up. Source: Reddit All credits to original author: "WackyMan157" Leo "Apollo11" 6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[KAKE] Uglesett Players 2,804 posts 6,795 battles Report post #2 Posted June 6, 2019 I'm really curious about everyone's favourite Wagnerian hero, so I hope we hear more about her soon. Ideally I'd like to see her for free exp, since I already have too many coal ships lined up that I want (and not enough coal to get them) while the only free exp ship I'm semi-interested in is the Alaska, and I can live without that one if something a bit more interesting shows up. If Siegfried ends up playing a bit like a T9 Graf Spee, then I'm sold. As for the alternate T10 tech tree ships, I wonder how they'll do the research requirements for them. Let's be honest here, playing T9 tech tree ships can be... a somewhat tedious experience. And a lot of them have probably been sold off as soon as the existing T10 was unlocked. So will you have to (possibly rebuy) and play the T9 for almost as long as you spent unlocking the first T10 (or use free exp), or can they also be unlocked with exp gathered on the existing T10? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-TPF-] invicta2012 Players 6,382 posts 26,855 battles Report post #3 Posted June 6, 2019 1 hour ago, Leo_Apollo11 said: On the negative side, it detracts from low tier, affordable premium ships (cough, it's why Yahagi and such are being held back, so new low tiers don't need to be made) True, but everyone loves a ship Marathon. Cossack, Exeter, Gallant, Aigle, PEF, Lazo, Murmansk... if there's a free ship at the end of it, we'll play it. Quirky stuff like Yahagi should be given away through those means. Hill looks like a marathon reward, too... I know they are currently undertaking the project of Every American Destroyer Ever but I don't think she looks better than Nicholas, can't see her being sold for cash. There are plenty of ships I would buy though, especially British and Commonwealth ones: Arethusa, Hardy, Sheffield, Cavalier, Dido, Australia, Stuart, Achilles.... In that mid-Tier bracket I quite like Siroco but I wish they'd use the actual remaining French DD classes for premiums - L' Adroit and Le Hardi (especially the latter) would make fun Tier VI and VII ships in a more traditional Destroyer package. I like the sound of Bayard, Benham and Georgia - hopefully these aren't all coal. Oh, and where are the Italian ships? Enquiring minds would like to know. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[X-10] ___V_E_N_O_M___ Players 2,129 posts 14,292 battles Report post #4 Posted June 6, 2019 This would be cool: 9 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[I-J-N] Karasu_Browarszky [I-J-N] Players 13,025 posts Report post #5 Posted June 6, 2019 Siegfried always makes me think of All Creatures Great and Small... 1 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gustywinds Players 444 posts 5,582 battles Report post #6 Posted June 6, 2019 Was interest in the RN premium carriers but I’m really struggling to make Audacious work and Implacable is notably inferior to my other T8 carriers (Lexi, Shokaku, Kaga). The rest? Meh. What became of HMAS Canberra/Australia? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CR33D] fumtu [CR33D] Players 3,842 posts 38,979 battles Report post #7 Posted June 6, 2019 9 minutes ago, gustywinds said: What became of HMAS Canberra/Australia? She was never officially announced. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[R3B3L] HystericalAccuracy Players 1,505 posts 40,428 battles Report post #8 Posted June 6, 2019 2 hours ago, ___V_E_N_O_M___ said: This would be cool: Regarding the CV Aquila: What types of planes would you like to see on her? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[X-10] ___V_E_N_O_M___ Players 2,129 posts 14,292 battles Report post #9 Posted June 6, 2019 1 hour ago, VIadoCro said: Regarding the CV Aquila: What types of planes would you like to see on her? I dont know I just thought she was a pretty boat 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[POPPY] Chaos_Umbra [POPPY] Players 1,662 posts 20,300 battles Report post #10 Posted June 6, 2019 3 minutes ago, ___V_E_N_O_M___ said: I dont know I just thought she was a pretty boat The Italians did make some stunning ships... aesthetically 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[THESO] KillStealBoss Players 12,123 posts 62,182 battles Report post #11 Posted June 6, 2019 I think Benham will be for free exp (1 mln) . It'll be really crazy fun DD . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[L123] Gorenor Players 120 posts 22,547 battles Report post #12 Posted June 6, 2019 2 hours ago, VIadoCro said: Regarding the CV Aquila: What types of planes would you like to see on her? Reggiane RE.2001 serie II for CV purpose Source 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SparvieroVV Players 684 posts 73 battles Report post #13 Posted June 6, 2019 1 hour ago, Gorenor said: Reggiane RE.2001 serie II for CV purpose Source Depends on tier. If VIII expect series V fighters. Re.2005 getting a 800kg AP bomb and G.55 a torpedo probably. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spunyarn Players 533 posts Report post #14 Posted June 6, 2019 Benham is listed in the text when first opening the armoury on the PTS and in the description of the "Savage Battle" as the mystery-ship available for "fuel tokens". As she is Tier IX though I'm inclined to think that could be misdirection by Wargaming so they can "...keep the suspense until the last minute" and "...share the details with you shortly before the upcoming Update’s release!" about what the ship actually is. Thunderer has some questions over how she'll be released. On the one hand there's what Wargaming said about tech-tree splits. On the other hand there's that the screenshot had her name in the gold with laurel wreath of a premium ship, that people on Reddit noticed the naming scheme of the files follows that for premium ships, and the port icon for her shows her with camouflage applied like a premium ship (rather than bare metal like a tech tree). One very weak possibility is to wonder if she might be earned through a collection or mission chain. The entry for her default colour scheme in the PTS (0.8.5) camouflages.xml is "<!--//UK UNIQUE Thunderer collection colour scheme 41-->" and the only other colour schemes with "collection" in their name are "<!--//UK UNIQUE Implacable collection colour scheme 39-->" and "<!--//UK UNIQUE Dreadnought collection colour scheme 40-->". In the first case that's the "Wings of the Crown" permoflage for Implacable, earned through completing the British CV Arc collection, and in the second case that's the permoflage for Dreadnought, earned along with the ship for grinding enough mission chains. Weakly supporting this idea is that there is a "key" for a British Arc as well as the British CV Arc we've already had, though that is in the live version rather than something new in the PTS files (like the icon for Thunderer, or the portraits of Richard and Jingles). But this is well beyond being guesswork and into whether I remembered to take my medication. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BHSFL] Beastofwar [BHSFL] Players 4,596 posts Report post #15 Posted June 6, 2019 4 hours ago, Chaos_Umbra said: The Italians did make some stunning ships... aesthetically Italians made very good aircraft too. I wonder if all these fine Italian machines never became as famous as their other nation counterparts did because the men in them had no will to fight agression wars for their leader, and just did as ordered, but not much more. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[POPPY] Chaos_Umbra [POPPY] Players 1,662 posts 20,300 battles Report post #16 Posted June 6, 2019 25 minutes ago, Beastofwar said: Italians made very good aircraft too. I wonder if all these fine Italian machines never became as famous as their other nation counterparts did because the men in them had no will to fight agression wars for their leader, and just did as ordered, but not much more. It's more like the Italians had no fuel to set sail in them and TBH a lot of their officers were incompetent when it came to strategy... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SparvieroVV Players 684 posts 73 battles Report post #17 Posted June 7, 2019 2 hours ago, Chaos_Umbra said: It's more like the Italians had no fuel to set sail in them and TBH a lot of their officers were incompetent when it came to strategy... Yet the British couldn’t stop the RM. so are we saying the British were even more incompetent? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CR33D] fumtu [CR33D] Players 3,842 posts 38,979 battles Report post #18 Posted June 7, 2019 3 hours ago, SparvieroVV said: Yet the British couldn’t stop the RM. Stop them to do what? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-TPF-] invicta2012 Players 6,382 posts 26,855 battles Report post #19 Posted June 7, 2019 10 hours ago, MacArthur92 said: I think Benham will be for free exp (1 mil) . It'll be really crazy fun DD Ah. That'll be a shame, then, as that would mean I'd need £90 worth of doubloons to get her. Pass...... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yanayuki Players 283 posts 9,802 battles Report post #20 Posted June 7, 2019 3 hours ago, invicta2012 said: Ah. That'll be a shame, then, as that would mean I'd need £90 worth of doubloons to get her. Pass...... Alaska and Azuma are FXP ships too, but both are in the premium store as well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[THESO] KillStealBoss Players 12,123 posts 62,182 battles Report post #21 Posted June 7, 2019 3 hours ago, invicta2012 said: Ah. That'll be a shame, then, as that would mean I'd need £90 worth of doubloons to get her. Pass...... Dude, you can grind 1mln free exp in less than a year. Me playing average 20 battles a day (less in week days and more in weekend) I did 1mln free exp in less than 2 months. So really not so hard. Plus Benham will be released maybe in late summer. So still lots of time even from now to get free exp. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[KAKE] Uglesett Players 2,804 posts 6,795 battles Report post #22 Posted June 7, 2019 Also, I'd like to reiterate my request that if West Virginia can have that country song horn, then Siegfried should get this as an option (ping @Crysantos, I know you're around here somewhere) 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[WG] Crysantos WG Staff 3,754 posts 17,659 battles Report post #23 Posted June 7, 2019 Just now, Uglesett said: Also, I'd like to reiterate my request that if West Virginia can have that country song horn, then Siegfried should get this as an option (ping @Crysantos, I know you're around here somewhere) 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-TPF-] invicta2012 Players 6,382 posts 26,855 battles Report post #24 Posted June 7, 2019 1 hour ago, MacArthur92 said: Dude, you can grind 1mln free exp in less than a year. 1 hour ago, MacArthur92 said: I did 1mln free exp in less than 2 months. So really not so hard That's if you play top tier, which I don't. So it looks like Benham is for unobtanium only (seriously, I only got Nelson when they refunded the purchase price of CVs). So if you scrub off the Tier IX and X ships (which I can't afford, at least more than one a year) and the CVs (which I don't want) then we're left with: Yahagi - T5 Japanese CL Viribus Unitus - T5 Pan-EU BB (Note: Currently German, heavily hinted at being released as Pan-European once Blyskawica is moved and Friesland is released) Leone - T6 Italian DD Yudachi - T7 Japanese DD Siroco - T5 French DD (Note: Basically copy paste T4 DD (Bourrasque) with reload booster a tier higher) Hill - T5 United States DD Yahagi looks quirky and possibly a bit irritating. VU looked all over the place the last time I saw it, Leone looks quirky-fun in a good way, Yudachi looks meh, Siroco and Hill look just OK. It's not a great line-up, is it? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Otowi Beta Tester 297 posts Report post #25 Posted June 7, 2019 When looking at the list, I saw the HMS Indomitable... What is the current status of it? I heard TCFreer saying it needs more done to it, but it's been in testing for how long now?? Just wondering, since I think it was said the plan was to release her along with the other CV's WG had in the prem store with the CV rwork patch... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
