Amun_RA Players 89 posts 4,444 battles Report post #1 Posted June 5, 2019 Please help me. What ship should I buy first with coal? Salem or Yoshino? I don't have DM researched yet. Worcester is my only tier 10 cruiser yet. I would also like to play ranked with them, so I guess Salem would be better in ranked? I managed to get rank 5 last season. Also, I don't know yet when Yoshino will be sold. The problem is that I want ships with unique playstyle and Salem seems too similar to the DM. Thx! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
veslingr Players 2,975 posts 477 battles Report post #2 Posted June 5, 2019 6 minutes ago, Amun_RA said: Please help me. What ship should I buy first with coal? Salem or Yoshino? I don't have DM researched yet. Worcester is my only tier 10 cruiser yet. I would also like to play ranked with them, so I guess Salem would be better in ranked? I managed to get rank 5 last season. Also, I don't know yet when Yoshino will be sold. The problem is that I want ships with unique playstyle and Salem seems too similar to the DM. Thx! Salem is worst DM for competitive play. basically those 2 ships are the same, DM having longer range radar, Salem having better heal.....all other things are almost the same. definitively identical play style. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[MOYAI] KielYourself Players 350 posts 16,998 battles Report post #3 Posted June 5, 2019 If you want a unique play style, I would suggest yoshino over salem/dm. I didnt play yoshi yet but from what I've seen it is a bit different from the existing supercruisers with a playstyle like the zao. Salem is definitely not worth the coal since it has a better tech tree counterpart. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[INTRO] Hanse77SWE Players 1,518 posts 28,995 battles Report post #4 Posted June 5, 2019 Yoshino The Salem is basically a DM and you can allways grind that one out in game. Right now there are no "Supercruiser" that you can grind for. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zieten Beta Tester 298 posts 6,940 battles Report post #5 Posted June 5, 2019 Flamu calls the Yoshino basicly a Super-Ibuki. If that sounds appealing to you (kiting away and spamming HE all game), wait for it. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Panocek Players 13,176 posts 13,617 battles Report post #6 Posted June 5, 2019 Umm, Yoshi is out already? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amun_RA Players 89 posts 4,444 battles Report post #7 Posted June 5, 2019 3 minutes ago, Panocek said: Umm, Yoshi is out already? I don't know when it comes out. I've written that above. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CHEFT] DFens_666 Players 13,162 posts 11,029 battles Report post #8 Posted June 5, 2019 30 minutes ago, Miki12345 said: Salem is definitely not worth the coal since it has a better tech tree counterpart. I like the zombieheal 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-AP-] thiextar Players 3,503 posts 9,933 battles Report post #9 Posted June 5, 2019 Yoshino isnt final yet, so it may become stronger/weaker before its out. Playstyle should remain the same tho, so if you want a kiting cruiser, its probably the one you want. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[OM] belalugosisdead Players 1,038 posts 30,708 battles Report post #10 Posted June 5, 2019 I have Azuma already and will go for Yoshino First. I like the playstyle. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bortasqu Beta Tester 939 posts 14,845 battles Report post #11 Posted June 5, 2019 Yoshino. Supercruisers are better than everything else in this game. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[MOYAI] KielYourself Players 350 posts 16,998 battles Report post #12 Posted June 5, 2019 2 hours ago, DFens_666 said: I like the zombieheal That is really good on it. But the coal price doesn't justify it imo. And wasting a coupon on it also seems like a bad idea. But if you over 500k coal(like me #humbleBrag) might as well spend it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Panocek Players 13,176 posts 13,617 battles Report post #13 Posted June 5, 2019 50 minutes ago, Sturmtiger_304 said: Yoshino. Supercruisers are better than everything else in this game. And yet they are all rendered obsolete by ultimate supercruiser, Missouri Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CptBarney Players 8,127 posts 245 battles Report post #14 Posted June 5, 2019 35 minutes ago, Panocek said: And yet they are all rendered obsolete by ultimate supercruiser, Missouri Then thats rendered obsolete by supercruiser kremlin. balans! 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[HEROZ] GulvkluderGuld Players 3,467 posts 22,114 battles Report post #15 Posted June 5, 2019 1 hour ago, CptBarney said: Then thats rendered obsolete by supercruiser kremlin. balans! InB4 rendered obsolete by supercruiser Slava! Also @OP, if you plan to reach Rank 5, Salem can work, but Worchester much better, it is the 2nd/ 3rd best Ranked cruiser (Mino #1, Henri/Wroch as #2, rest are CV food) Yoshino pis the better pick. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Exozen Players 165 posts 4,370 battles Report post #16 Posted June 5, 2019 Yosi , its unique japanse T10 , its nothing special and will certianly not replace Zao / Stalingrad in any mode, but the Salem is a downgraded Des moine, and the Des is free to grinde unlike the Salem which is a wooping 180k coal with cupon. Get the Yosi , grinde the Des save your self the headache. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Panocek Players 13,176 posts 13,617 battles Report post #17 Posted June 5, 2019 1 hour ago, Exozen said: Yosi , its unique japanse T10 , its nothing special and will certianly not replace Zao / Stalingrad in any mode, but the Salem is a downgraded Des moine, and the Des is free to grinde unlike the Salem which is a wooping 180k coal with cupon. Get the Yosi , grinde the Des save your self the headache. I don't think so. Salem zombie heal is massive boon for straight up shoot them up gameplay. And while she lacks DM Radar, she can equip DFAA and Hydro at the same time, unlike Des Moines. And with Year of the Carrier upon us, I'm not sure I want to part ways with at least something AA related. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CptBarney Players 8,127 posts 245 battles Report post #18 Posted June 5, 2019 Salem just seems like a better des pemes at this point. Yoshi i have no clue, if shes like the azuma giant wet paper bag i probs won't bother. Amazing that it takes this long for wargaming just to add a bunch of ships to their bloody arsenal/armoury or whatever it is called now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[_DRK_] Vogelhund Beta Tester 216 posts Report post #19 Posted June 5, 2019 Buy Salem forget Yoshino . 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[_DRK_] Vogelhund Beta Tester 216 posts Report post #20 Posted June 5, 2019 Vor 1 Stunde, Exozen sagte: Yosi , its unique japanse T10 , its nothing special and will certianly not replace Zao / Stalingrad in any mode, but the Salem is a downgraded Des moine, and the Des is free to grinde unlike the Salem which is a wooping 180k coal with cupon. Get the Yosi , grinde the Des save your self the headache. Salem isnt a downgrade it have better heal for soloplay. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CHEFT] DFens_666 Players 13,162 posts 11,029 battles Report post #21 Posted June 5, 2019 6 hours ago, Miki12345 said: That is really good on it. But the coal price doesn't justify it imo. And wasting a coupon on it also seems like a bad idea. But if you over 500k coal(like me #humbleBrag) might as well spend it. I bought it right away back then when i had the coal (with coupon, since i didnt have steel back then). Havent played it THAT much, but its had its uses (farm some missions in coop, tiny bit randoms, bit ranked/CBs). I think tho, a small radar buff would be nice after the concealment nerf, atleast 9km imo... Dont use coal on much other stuff than ships, only finished the Bismarck and Vive la france collections. Now at almost 200k, waiting for yoshino Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[X-10] ___V_E_N_O_M___ Players 2,129 posts 14,298 battles Report post #22 Posted June 6, 2019 16 hours ago, Panocek said: I don't think so. Salem zombie heal is massive boon for straight up shoot them up gameplay. And while she lacks DM Radar, she can equip DFAA and Hydro at the same time, unlike Des Moines. And with Year of the Carrier upon us, I'm not sure I want to part ways with at least something AA related. When I repair salem I dont get the zombie heal, how do you activate it?? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Panocek Players 13,176 posts 13,617 battles Report post #23 Posted June 6, 2019 7 minutes ago, ___V_E_N_O_M___ said: When I repair salem I dont get the zombie heal, how do you activate it?? Umm, its British heal, also known as lol heal, zombie heal, restoring up to 48% hp assuming India Delta flag is on. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[DD537] Episparh Players 1,403 posts 20,619 battles Report post #24 Posted June 6, 2019 22 hours ago, CptBarney said: Then thats rendered obsolete by supercruiser kremlin. balans! Still Mo will make twice more credits with just a quarter of the damaged scored by Kremlin. It's a Trump vagon! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NWP] Blixies Beta Tester, Players 2,160 posts 6,904 battles Report post #25 Posted June 6, 2019 10/10 Very good post. Would decipher again. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites