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Playing with a CV on your team In ranked

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Just thought ide at least try to educate some people on how to successfuly work with your cv and play against the enemy cv in ranked. 

 

-At the start of the same obviously cvs will get early spots on cruisers to to all BB players please have your gun facing towards where your cvs planes are going so that you can try to blap any cruisers spotted by him (especially minos and Worcesters as this will increase your cvs effectiveness massively if you kill them)

 

-try to stay with at least 1 other ship within 4 Km of you (2 others is preferable but 1 will do) as this will greatly discourage or in some cases even negate the enemy cv from striking you. 

 

-if you are a DD player, going for caps at the start of a game in a cv game is a very bad idea. Caps are not that important early game as most dds that try to go and solo cap without waiting for their team die very fast. So for the first 3 or 4 minutes just sail along with friendly cruises providing smoke if needed to light cruisers and spamming torps where you think the enemy dd might be trying to cap. 

 

-do not spam 'provide anti-air suport' button. I cannot stress this point enough. It is just annoying to your friendly CV player and will usually make him less likely to put fighters over you. Just let the cv player deal with priorities and if he thinks you need a fighter and he is in a position to do so he will give you a fighter. But do not treat cv players as your personal slaves. 

 

-if you are in a cruiser against a haku do not sit still on an island as that will make it easy for him to AP bomb you to death (especially des moines and stalingrads) instead try to be more mobile and able to turn side on to the bombers to mitigate damage. 

 

Other than those points I ha e mentioned just try to work with your friendly cv player and communicate with him but don't harras him for support. Asking him to spot something that you are able to kill is fine but don't keep spamming buttons for him to protect you or flame him in chat if you die and it's somehow all his fault. 

 

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All good valid points

Problem is with the rentals your trying to preach to the brain dead most of the time

Never have I seen such god awful play at tier 10 and it probably needs your tips being put to the rental players in game as soon as they pick the rental ship

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3 minutes ago, beercrazy said:

All good valid points

Problem is with the rentals your trying to preach to the brain dead most of the time

Never have I seen such god awful play at tier 10 and it probably needs your tips being put to the rental players in game as soon as they pick the rental ship

I haven't seen any difference between a Rental player and WoWS finest T10 player so far.

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18 minutes ago, LemonadeWarrior said:

I haven't seen any difference between a Rental player and WoWS finest T10 player so far.

lucky you

 

I have seen some good rental players but mostly pure rubbish

you try and tell them not to go alone and stay with the team and they don't listen (and there is cv in game because I am playing one)

also afk rentals I have had now 3 times on my team and seen it on enemy team from rentals and I have had 11 ranked games with one win

maybe its because its the lower ranks think around 15 or so but its not very fun down here at the moment

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I appreciate you making this topic, i wanted to make something similiar but then just gave up hope quickly.

It's so hard to have much impact against a working enemy team and so stressful to pöay CV that i simply switched to playing shimakaze xD

(stuck rank 5 currently)

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They should ad cv to ranked but they really need to do 1 morr rework on the CV. I loves to play cv when it was more about spot and give protection to your team with fighters. Nog you can be Braun dras and just rush with planes since you got unlimited planes. The AA suck now, i have asked alot of players what they think about the AA, it is to weak you should atleast be able to shoot down 1-2 planes when they bomb you ( IF you use battelship or crusier when they are AA build) now you dont even manage to hurt the planes.

 

 

1. CV’s need to have limit nummer of planes. NO Brain dras bombing. You should pick your targets carefully and work with your team.

 

2. If they have unlimited nummer of planes make sure to buff AA

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Very good topic.

 

When you play with/against a cv , you need to play as a team ( for exemple 2 group of 3 ships are fine ), dont stay static , it s the best way to take a huge hit.

 

And all your issue in game are not necessarily the CV fault, so stop TT , flame your CV, it s rly annoying for the CV player

 

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I was on a losing streak yesterday and once the next game started I typed at the beginning: I'm gonna farm because you are all useless c*

 

So ofcourse we lost that game, but luckily I managed to save my star. :Smile_trollface:

The moral of the story is to not play ranked when you are tilted.

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Honestly the only thing i would add is the part of communication at the start so the friendly cv could pop a fighter on the right spot near a cap making use of the islands to cover its area of effect against the enemy cv till it is too late. 

 

 

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1 hour ago, heyhoppartypop said:

They should ad cv to ranked but they really need to do 1 morr rework on the CV. I loves to play cv when it was more about spot and give protection to your team with fighters. Nog you can be Braun dras and just rush with planes since you got unlimited planes. The AA suck now, i have asked alot of players what they think about the AA, it is to weak you should atleast be able to shoot down 1-2 planes when they bomb you ( IF you use battelship or crusier when they are AA build) now you dont even manage to hurt the planes.

 

 

1. CV’s need to have limit nummer of planes. NO Brain dras bombing. You should pick your targets carefully and work with your team.

 

2. If they have unlimited nummer of planes make sure to buff AA

Please provide mathematical proof the CVS have unlimited planes. Please come back after you have done the calculations AND comparison with the amount of planes on the rts CVs before asking for that system of plane stocks back. (as cv player I would love the joy of that as it means more planes) 

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1 hour ago, heyhoppartypop said:

They should ad cv to ranked but they really need to do 1 morr rework on the CV. I loves to play cv when it was more about spot and give protection to your team with fighters. Nog you can be Braun dras and just rush with planes since you got unlimited planes. The AA suck now, i have asked alot of players what they think about the AA, it is to weak you should atleast be able to shoot down 1-2 planes when they bomb you ( IF you use battelship or crusier when they are AA build) now you dont even manage to hurt the planes.

 

 

1. CV’s need to have limit nummer of planes. NO Brain dras bombing. You should pick your targets carefully and work with your team.

 

2. If they have unlimited nummer of planes make sure to buff AA

this isn't a cv hate thread its about trying to tell players who haven't played tier 10 before how to play vs a competent team which may have a cv in it

you want to post about how you hate cvs ect then go to top the proper section where all the hate and love post for cvs have been shoved and its at the top of the thread lists

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I have saying what OP says in ranked at start many times, but very few listen/agree. So i have stopped doing that as players that are really skilled will cover each other anyway and DD will not race off, and players without skill will be picked off no matter what.

 

It is a source of frustration to see DD racing off to be killed ( and whine about it ) all allies scattering and subsequently be picked off by all types of enemies ( and blame CV gameplay ).

 

Individual player skill seems not to make any difference untill at much lower ranks i suppose. You just need be lucky your whole team are not idiots. And i guess the only way to get to a rank where player skill does matter you just have to play enough games win or lose untill you get there and it sticks.

 

I also noticed stat fanatics avoid Ranked like the plague, as it would wreck WR and other stats. And thier upheld illiusion they can dictate/influence matches as individula players by superior skills per definition, but more important : you cannot play in a devision.....so no creating favorable odds you win. Ranked is actually more honest, lol.

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35 minutes ago, Beastofwar said:

I have saying what OP says in ranked at start many times, but very few listen/agree. So i have stopped doing that as players that are really skilled will cover each other anyway and DD will not race off, and players without skill will be picked off no matter what.

 

It is a source of frustration to see DD racing off to be killed ( and whine about it ) all allies scattering and subsequently be picked off by all types of enemies ( and blame CV gameplay ).

 

Individual player skill seems not to make any difference untill at much lower ranks i suppose. You just need be lucky your whole team are not idiots. And i guess the only way to get to a rank where player skill does matter you just have to play enough games win or lose untill you get there and it sticks.

 

I also noticed stat fanatics avoid Ranked like the plague, as it would wreck WR and other stats. And thier upheld illiusion they can dictate/influence matches as individula players by superior skills per definition, but more important : you cannot play in a devision.....so no creating favorable odds you win. Ranked is actually more honest, lol.

all stats ie ranked, random, coop are displayed in their own section so losing in ranked means nothing and same for damage ect

 

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40 minutes ago, Beastofwar said:

I also noticed stat fanatics avoid Ranked like the plague, as it would wreck WR and other stats.

Ranked has separate statistics.

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4 hours ago, Mr_Snoww said:

- if you are a DD player, going for caps at the start of a game in a cv game is a very bad idea. Caps are not that important early game as most dds that try to go and solo cap without waiting for their team die very fast. So for the first 3 or 4 minutes just sail along with friendly cruises providing smoke if needed to light cruisers and spamming torps where you think the enemy dd might be trying to cap. 

 

4 hours ago, beercrazy said:

I have seen some good rental players but mostly pure rubbish

you try and tell them not to go alone and stay with the team and they don't listen (and there is cv in game because I am playing one)

 

"The early destroyer catches fire", eh? Should be a proverb, if you ask me. :Smile_veryhappy:

 

If you're in a DD and don't go for the caps, you may draw some ire as well when people think you ought to be more aggressive and earn your keep as a scout. It's hard to keep everyone happy. Mostly I try to nose forward and hope to get a lucky cap, while staying on my toes to dash off real fast if I get focused down. Mind you, it doesn't always work. The single best piece of advice I ever got on this forum was the simple and very laconic, "Don't die." It just about covers it all, especially if you're in a destroyer in the early game.

 

Incidentally, I just recently played my first battle in a rental Gearing, and it went pretty well, all things considered. We had no CV in that match, so my decision to keep those faster-reloading 10,5 km torpedoes proved to be a good one. I like having torps ready to go at short intervals. However, with regard to your advice on how I should counter/avoid CV:s by staying with the fleet in the early game, and use my torpedoes more for area denial, perhaps I would be better off with the 16 km-ranged ones? They reload too slow for my taste, but I wouldn't necessarily have to break AA cover in order to use them.

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I would add to DD do not rush a cap Which is far, go there escorted but rush the nearest cap immediatly cause in some maps to get that cap fast is really important and is handly for your cv to give you cover

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