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Admiral Kuznetsov's Biography

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     He became a `Hero of Soviet Unión` because he took part in a lot of simulated battles in the headquarters of CCCP Navy durimg WWII and prepared the ships to be a coastal artillery. 

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Right *cracks knuckles* - where do we begin?

 

Brave, assertive, and insightful, Kuznetsov lived a glorious life that was rich in both victories and defeats. 

Probably why he participated in no actual battle then...

 

After the enemy raid on Sevastopol, Kuznetsov ordered all fleets to start setting mine barriers according to a predetermined plan, which significantly impeded the operational movements of the enemy forces.

Right. I must have missed the bit where the invading German armies MILES INLAND were impeded by NAVAL MINES. Some top work there! 

 

It can be safely assumed that the Admiral's decisive actions allowed the fleet to avoid heavy losses.

What fleet?! How can you avoid losses of something that you don't have?! That's like saying the Soviets lost no flying saucers in WW2... oh my didn't they do a great job!

 

'Under his command, the fleet managed to prevent an invasion of the Caucasus from the sea.'

From who? Local fishermen? Local wildlife that got a bit militant?

 

Come on WG - the person writing this 'article' needs a good smack over the head with a history book. Preferably a history book not written by some member of the Politburo Media Relations Team.

 

You could have gone into greater detail about his ACTUAL achievements post-war in developing the Soviet Surface fleet. You could have drawn more attention to his naval theory/doctrine in relation to his western counterparts. You didn't need to cook up weird and wonderful fairy tales that have no basis in reality.

 

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2 hours ago, ___V_E_N_O_M___ said:

He must be proud of his fleet of ships:

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LMAO. And WG doesnt even have a notion it is getting mugged

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4 hours ago, The_EURL_Guy said:

Let’s delve into the biography of the new unique Commander.


Read it on the portal

What kind of propaganda are you telling? Why not talk about STALIN and the great things he did sending people to the goelags

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39 minutes ago, Gvozdika said:

It can be safely assumed that the Admiral's decisive actions allowed the fleet to avoid heavy losses.

What fleet?! How can you avoid losses of something that you don't have?! That's like saying the Soviets lost no flying saucers in WW2... oh my didn't they do a great job!

As meagre as the Soviet surface fleet was, Kuznetsov indeed did save what little surface presence the Soviets had left by insubordination... Otherwise it would have fared as well as the Soviet Air Force on the very first day: being caught with the pants on the ankles.

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13 hours ago, MrFingers said:

As meagre as the Soviet surface fleet was, Kuznetsov indeed did save what little surface presence the Soviets had left by insubordination... Otherwise it would have fared as well as the Soviet Air Force on the very first day: being caught with the pants on the ankles.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Sea_campaigns_(1941–44) Although the Soviet navy had no significant operations in the Black Sea except for some evacuation of troops from Sevastopol and giving artillerysupport to besieged cities they really did not have any impact on the landoperations of the Wehrmacht in the beginning of the war. Preventing the axis from performing a landing in the Caucasus was easy as the Axis never had any means to perform a landing in the Caucasus. Turkey, who was neutral in WW2 blocked major axis naval units from entering the Black sea and what they had on the surface were a few destroyers, torpedoboats, gunboats and barges while underwater they had a few submarines. Hardly a fleet able to perform a major operation like transporting divisionlevel troops and supporting their landing. Admiral Kuznetsov was surely a brave man by, at least somewhat covertly, standing up against the rigid partyinfluenced command of the Soviet forceson land, at sea and in the air but I do not really think that his achievments at sea were much to write home about.

History according to WG lacks reality. Earlier before the Soviet bb:s were launched I saw a video with their so called historians claiming that at the outbreak of the War in 1941 the Sovietunion was the biggest industrial power in the world. For western Europe and Poland the war started already in 1939 with Soviet turning a blind eye to German agression and later in 1939 blatantly invading Poland after Wehrmacht had crushed the polish army in September 1939 and  invading and annexing the three small baltic states and trying to invade Finland, where they surprisingly, got a bloody nose and only had minor success in moving the borders after an armistice was negotiated.  At the same time the Sovietunion was unable to even lay down and launch any of the planned ships ( that we have in the game) the USA laid down and launched North Carolina, Washington, Iowa, New Jersey, MissouriWisconsin

South Dakota, Indiana, Massachusetts, and Alabama. But not only that. They also laid down and launched all vessels for tthe fast carrier taskforces at the same time as they built tens of thousands of airplanes, tanks, trucks, jeeps and managed to produce something for the domestic market as well. The fast carrier taskforces consisted of 17 carriers, 6 battleships, 13 cruisers, 58 destroyers, 1,100 aircraft. The bb:s obviously being some of the above named.

Lend-Lease helped the British, Soviets, and other Allied nations win the war. Even after the United States forces in Europe and the Pacific began to attain full strength during 1943–1944, Lend-Lease continued. Most remaining Allies were largely self-sufficient in frontline equipment (such as tanks and fighter aircraft) by this time but Lend-Lease provided a useful supplement in this category and Lend-Lease logistical supplies (including motor vehicles and railroad equipment) were of enormous assistance.

Much of the meaning of Lend-Lease aid can be better understood when considering the innovative nature of World War II, as well as the economic distortions caused by the war. One of the greatest differences with prior wars, was the enormous increase in the mobility of armies. This was the first big war in which whole formations were routinely motorized; soldiers were supported with large numbers of all kinds of vehicles. Most belligerent powers severely decreased production of non-essentials, concentrating on producing weapons. This inevitably produced shortages of related products needed by the military or as part of the military-industrial complex. On the Allied side, there was almost total reliance upon American industry production, weaponry and especially unarmored vehicles purpose-built for military use, vital for the modern army's logistics and support. The USSR was very dependent on rail transport and starting during the latter half of the 1920sbut accelerating during the 1930s (The Great Depression), hundreds of foreign industrial giants such as Ford were commissioned to construct modern dual purpose factories in the USSR, 16 alone within a week of May 31 1929 with the outbreak of war these plants switched from civilian to military production and locomotive production ended virtually overnight. Just 446 locomotives were produced during the war, with only 92 of those being built between 1942 and 1945. In total, 92.7% of the wartime production of railroad equipment by the USSR was supplied by Lend-Lease, including 1,911 locomotives and 11,225 railcars] which augmented the existing stocks of at least 20,000 locomotives and half amillion railcars. Much of the logistical assistance of the Soviet military was provided by hundreds of thousands of U.S.-made trucks and by 1945, nearly a third of the truck strength of the Red Army was U.S.-built. Trucks such as the Dodge 3/4-ton and Studebaker 2,5 ton were easily the best trucks available in their class on either side on the Eastern Front. American shipments of telephone cable, aluminum, canned rations and clothing were also critical. Lend-Lease also supplied significant amounts of weapons and ammunition. The Soviet air force received 18,200 aircraft, which amounted to about 30 percent of Soviet wartime fighter and bomber production (mid 1941–45). Most tank units were Soviet-built models but about 7,000 Lend-Lease tanks (plus more than 5,000 British tanks) were used by the Red Army, 8 percent of war-time production.

According to the Russian historian Boris Vadimovich Sokolov, Lend-Lease had a crucial role in winning the war: On the whole the following conclusion can be drawn: that without these Western shipments under Lend-Lease the Soviet Union not only would not have been able to win the Great Patriotic War, it would not have been able even to oppose the German invaders, since it could not itself produce sufficient quantities of arms and military equipment or adequate supplies of fuel and ammunition. The Soviet authorities were well aware of this dependency on Lend-Lease. Thus, Stalin told Harry Hopkins [FDR's emissary to Moscow in July 1941] that the U.S.S.R. could not match Germany's might as an occupier of Europe and its resources.]

Nikita Khrushchev, having served as a military commissar and intermediary between Stalin and his generals during the war, addressed directly the significance of Lend-lease aid in his memoirs.

Yeah the biggest industrial power.... I rest my case.

 

 

 

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All very interesting and correct @trident65, but it's a bit off-topic (I do agree with you that WG is making the RU contributions ridiculous). It's not about the quantity or quality though, but that Kuznetsov managed to have his ships (even if it was just a steam-launch with a gattlin gun on it) on high alert, and thus prevented them from being caught offguard. Which is something that he did.

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The Soviets were expert in rewriting there history and expunging the established historical documents where they differed from the Soviet version.  They were also expert in ignoring reality and inventing their own.   A non-military example of this is Trofim Lysenko an agronomist who gained Stalin's favour buy proclaiming that genetics had nothing to do with how well plants would grow and that they would flourish better if farmers planted in line Marxist principles.  Over 3000 biologist who opposed his ideas were either killed or imprisoned.  You can imagine the reults on the farm. The Soviets grasp of truth was never very strong.  So we should cut the WG historians some slack,  what they have as source documents must be suspect at best.

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I don't care what glorified revision of history is on the RU server;s website, but we know better WG. 

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On 6/5/2019 at 10:16 AM, trident65 said:

The fast carrier taskforces consisted of 17 carriers, 6 battleships, 13 cruisers, 58 destroyers,

 

That´s a lie, you need to get your numbers straight:

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The most numerous warship of all times is the almighty batelshiep!:Smile_trollface:

 

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