Colbert the new T10 Premium

[OldschoolGaming_YouTube]

So this seems like and interesting way to go for WG...?

Playerbase: Please nerf or take the firespamming Harugumo out of the game!! Firespamming must stop!!!

WG: Hold my beer .....

 

 

 

 

So pretty much a bigger Kleber with 2 buffed Atlantas strapped on its back? The tears of the BB community will create a new ocean.

[250swb]

I saw one hiding behind an island on the enemy team yesterday, a constant stream of shells looping over and demolishing our last BB. I either want one, or it should be nerfed, can't decide which, lol.

[OldschoolGaming_YouTube]

4 minutes ago, 250swb said:

I saw one hiding behind an island on the enemy team yesterday, a constant stream of shells looping over and demolishing our last BB. I either want one, or it should be nerfed, can't decide which, lol.

I want one for sure. Already love my fast firespamming Henri, this look even more OP then Henri. In Hanri I get 260, 270, 280 k damage games with up to 3,5 million potential damage, this ship will top that.

 

Im just wondering if this ship will kill of the BB players like the "CV rework" killed of the DD players. Soon we will only have firespamming cruisers left in the game.

[invicta2012]

It's a mistake. WG's developers seem to have the observational abilities of the lookouts on the Titanic and the memory span of goldfish. Can they not remember why they decided that RN cruisers shouldn't have HE?

 

It needs a heavy nerf and the player needs to make a choice between AA efficacy and surface HE damage, it can't have both. If you let that in the game then matches will be decided on whether Battleship players are brave enough to blob up and rush the Colbert/Smolensk, because they are the only ones with the durability to do so. Everything else melts. 

[kfa]

Spamming shells are overrated, a Yamato, Stalingrad or a Haku AP bomb can get you more dmg and kills in 3 salvos then 3 minutes of dakka in a Mino/Wooster/Haragumo. You will never be able to use your effective dpm the whole match, if you need to reposition maybe 2-3 minutes long, or get blapped by the ships mentioned above.

[DFens_666]

I think those are just horrible for the game. Along with Smolensk.

You guys remember back when they introduced RN CLs, and people were asking why no HE? And WG said, no, minotaur cant have HE it shoots so fast (from smoke too). So Smolensk is good to go with 16! guns, fast reload and smoke ontop of that

 

[Uglesett]

2 hours ago, OldschoolGaming_YouTube said:

WG: Hold my beervodka .....

Fixed.

[OldschoolGaming_YouTube]

44 minutes ago, invicta2012 said:

It's a mistake. WG's developers seem to have the observational abilities of the lookouts on the Titanic and the memory span of goldfish. Can they not remember why they decided that RN cruisers shouldn't have HE?

 

It needs a heavy nerf and the player needs to make a choice between AA efficacy and surface HE damage, it can't have both. If you let that in the game then matches will be decided on whether Battleship players are brave enough to blob up and rush the Colbert/Smolensk, because they are the only ones with the durability to do so. Everything else melts. 

I agree, what was totally wrong just a while back is suddenly totally ok for this new meta. Also just wait for the new french DD line....

Problem with BBs pushing together is with the speed and agility of this ship I have a hard time seeing them hitting him much and probably most overpens when they do. And trying to push this ship will put them into a not so nice crossfire from BBs. 

 

42 minutes ago, kfa said:

Spamming shells are overrated, a Yamato, Stalingrad or a Haku AP bomb can get you more dmg and kills in 3 salvos then 3 minutes of dakka in a Mino/Wooster/Haragumo. You will never be able to use your effective dpm the whole match, if you need to reposition maybe 2-3 minutes long, or get blapped by the ships mentioned above.

 

I out perform all those ships pretty much every round in my HE spamming Henri, Harugumo etc. This ship will pretty much be able to get shots on target all match with its agility and ROF and 18 km range. And repositioning takes about 20-30 sec max in these french baguettes.

 

Heres me taking on a 60k HP Yamato + heals, a Zao, a Montana and a Salem, killing of the Zao and Yamato and chasing of the Salem all while loosing 1000 HP (started at 13000 HP i think), and this is in a much much bigger ship that is wau less agile then this Colbert gonna be.

25 minutes ago, DFens_666 said:

I think those are just horrible for the game. Along with Smolensk.

You guys remember back when they introduced RN CLs, and people were asking why no HE? And WG said, no, minotaur cant have HE it shoots so fast (from smoke too). So Smolensk is good to go with 16! guns, fast reload and smoke ontop of that

 

 

 

This, pretty much! And dont forget about the great AA, that said its pretty hard for a CV to strike french cruisers anyways because of the speed and DefAA.

[fumtu]

All three new T10 ships, Colbert, Smolensk and Somers needs nerfs/adjustments. I could see Smolensk loose smoke and/or range or maybe RoF to 5sec, and it still could be fun and (relatively) balanced, Somers should get different torps or less of them. But I don't know how they could balance Colbert to be fun and on the same time balanced and less bad for a game generally. I consider Haragumo too much for this game and Colbert is rising that HE spam cancer even more. Even with torps, not enough HE pen, squishy hull just having such RoF, and some other things, make this ship looks OP. None of the CCs I watched during the week, Flamu, Flambass, Aerroon or Strefs didn't have much trouble to reach 100-200k per match. Flambass did three games in the row with Smolensk, every one over 200k of damage. I hope they will tone the down a little. But WG will probably find some stupid way to keep OP staff and nerf anything else.

[Beastofwar]

Well Notser shows it : you use it to kill high tier DD. That is what it does optimally. All cruiser should kill DD but this one is better equipped for it like all Cruisers with rapid firing smaller guns.

 

Burn down other ships.....yeah but that is sub optimal.

 

It makes sense to kill high tier DD as they are tough as nails, and CV are too nerft by now to do it fast enough. This is the new thing, untill it gets nerft too i guess.

 

It does make obvious WG does not care about ruining DD players experience as they keep introducing anti-DD weapons. And although DD can be dangerous in skilled hands, and numerous if unchecked i wonder why they need to be hunted high and low by specialized weapons so much. Maybe they are anticiating on the release of French DD and the influx of them it will cause ?

 

 

[CptBarney]

looks and sounds sexy.

 

just need the one with 180mm miniguns now. 18x8 yes bois.

[Miragetank90]

I'm happy to see Colbert in the game.

 

Lack of balance balance notwithstanding.

[GarrusBrutus]

Finally some decent AA.

Spoiler

 

 

[Skyllon]

Tier 8s are going to love it!

[Kartoffelmos]

3 hours ago, OldschoolGaming_YouTube said:

The tears of the BB community will create a new ocean.

 

Why? It cannot penetrate 32 mm of armour and if you die due to fires, you have already overextended to some extent. A Worcester can do exactly the same thing, only better.

 

I'm more worried about how annoying she will be to face in a cruiser with less armour (or lower tiers for that matter).

[Aotearas]

I'm just going to put this up in the air for consideration: 28mm HE pen with IFHE.

[Hopeless_Guppy]

Tier 10 Premium, really?? 

[Yanayuki]

4 minutes ago, NoobySkooby said:

Tier 10 Premium, really?? 

What's wrong with that? Salem (coal), Bourgogne (steel), and upcoming Smolensk, Somers and Yoshino are going to be TX Premium as well.

[OldschoolGaming_YouTube]

On 6/1/2019 at 1:13 PM, Kartoffelmos said:

 

Why? It cannot penetrate 32 mm of armour and if you die due to fires, you have already overextended to some extent. A Worcester can do exactly the same thing, only better.

 

I'm more worried about how annoying she will be to face in a cruiser with less armour (or lower tiers for that matter).

That fact didnt seem to matter much to all those T10 BBs that melted under its guns and turned and tucked tail.

 

This ship will melt BBs with fire and destroy any kind of AA it has. And with 18 km range "overextended" means you actually left spawn. So BBs need to reverse from start to not overextend.

 Cruisers wont be that effected by this ship since it will be hard to hit unless they are stationary.

[Kartoffelmos]

6 minutes ago, OldschoolGaming_YouTube said:

This ship will melt BBs with fire and destroy any kind of AA it has. And with 18 km range "overextended" means you actually left spawn. So BBs need to reverse from start to not overextend.

 

Battleships will turn around no matter if all they receive are shatters so I don't see that as a valid argument. As always, fire damage is manageable as long as you don't overextend (aka sit under a rain of HE shells for longer periods of time) and the cruiser isn't even effective at 15 km range so I don't see her "18 km range" come into play. Maybe if you sit stationary in a BB but then again, a Worchester (or any other cruiser except Minotaur for that matter) would be much more effective at dealing with such targets.

 

As for other cruisers, she will be as annoying as a Worcester but with greater concealment. What this means is that if you cannot force her to use less guns (good luck with that if you aren't using a Henri or the larger cruisers) she will deal massive damage to you.

 

Now whether or not a Worcester is OP is another argument entirely, but claiming that this will be the biggest threat to BBs is rather silly.

[gustywinds]

1 hour ago, Skyllon said:

Tier 8s are going to love it!

 T8 CVs already struggle with T10 cruisers. This makes it worse.

[OldschoolGaming_YouTube]

On 6/1/2019 at 2:40 PM, Kartoffelmos said:

 

Battleships will turn around no matter if all they receive are shatters so I don't see that as a valid argument. As always, fire damage is manageable as long as you don't overextend (aka sit under a rain of HE shells for longer periods of time) and the cruiser isn't even effective at 15 km range so I don't see her "18 km range" come into play. Maybe if you sit stationary in a BB but then again, a Worchester (or any other cruiser except Minotaur for that matter) would be much more effective at dealing with such targets.

 

As for other cruisers, she will be as annoying as a Worcester but with greater concealment. What this means is that if you cannot force her to use less guns (good luck with that if you aren't using a Henri or the larger cruisers) she will deal massive damage to you.

 

Now whether or not a Worcester is OP is another argument entirely, but claiming that this will be the biggest threat to BBs is rather silly.

Why would BBs turn and run if their not taking damage?!

I think this ship was quite effective at all ranges in the videos. And I never claimed she was the biggest treat just another OP firespammer together with all the other firespammers that BBs love that much.

 

And I havent met a BB yet that can manage this kind of firespam, and this is just one ship shooting.

 

But I guess we will see what happens... we have to agree to disagree.

 

 

[Beastofwar]

10 minutes ago, gustywinds said:

 T8 CVs already struggle with T10 cruisers. This makes it worse.

 

Not when they leave out any medium range AA like in the Atlanta.....then AA will suck despite the DP main guns as medium range continuous damage is the bulk of any AA a ship does to aircraft. FLAK clouds are merely an nice fireworks display....they do hinder visual on target often enough though....

[Fat_Maniac]

One thing for sure. Colbert does not need MBRB. She is an intimidating daka daka boat. But she is very very fragile. Experienced players are going to melt everything to the ground with her. The avg potato is going to die very quickly.

[T0byJug]

6 hours ago, OldschoolGaming_YouTube said:

So this seems like and interesting way to go for WG...?

Playerbase: Please nerf or take the firespamming Harugumo out of the game!! Firespamming must stop!!!

WG: Hold my beer .....

 

 

 

 

So pretty much a bigger Kleber with 2 buffed Atlantas strapped on its back? The tears of the BB community will create a new ocean.

But i dont recall hearing ANYTHING about people asking for Hurugomo to be removed