Do you "take charge"?

[krautjaeger]

I wonder, when some games start does anyone else "take charge" if no-one says anything? I've done that now for a while, and though some times people do their own thing anyway I find that doing a tad bit of coordinating helps a battle. Go for C and B, not A, and explaining why. Remind DDs to cap, or anyone else if they are close, reminding BBs to use their repair cycle (amazed at how many forgets), remind CVs to accelerate to top speed if running away on auto-pilot as the AP only sets to 1/2 by default. Just small things, not really taking charge of the whole battle. Just nudging things a bit.

 

When that is said, does anyone of you get bothered by someone doing so?

[Orlunu]

I test out the team's responsive to it.  Reactions vary wildly, but are usually negative.

 

We normally lose the negative ones.

[Mindfulcrane07]

it depends i think it is fine if they say say it in the beggining of the battle and it is a good idea ofcourse if it is like CV's please go rush the enemy and die it is a bad thing.

that said i hate when some people is dead and they say idiot that and that you should have been going here and there

[Xeonos]

To be honest, I do my own thing.

Only time I say something tactical, is to remind our team that our base is under attack, or to suggest  to cap instead chase the enemy.

 

 

[krautjaeger]

it depends i think it is fine if they say say it in the beggining of the battle and it is a good idea ofcourse if it is like CV's please go rush the enemy and die it is a bad thing.

that said i hate when some people is dead and they say idiot that and that you should have been going here and there

 

If I'm dead I just remind people to repair, if we lose cap and most importantly about time left. I usually call time at 6 minutes.

[Ulbricht]

To be honest, I do my own thing.

Only time I say something tactical, is to remind our team that our base is under attack, or to suggest  to cap instead chase the enemy.

 

 

 

Since 90% of the players do that, taking charge is quite useless cause noone gives a crap no matter if what you say makes sense or not

But since this is still an early closed beta and hardly anybode got a real clue what they are talking about it might get better in the future when more and more ppl know whats going on

[Captain_Edwards]

I ping the map and alter course to my intended destination, like point C or A etc. Then if people group up and tag along I know we have a decent chance.

[Xeonos]

 

Since 90% of the players do that, taking charge is quite useless cause noone gives a crap no matter if what you say makes sense or not

But since this is still an early closed beta and hardly anybode got a real clue what they are talking about it might get better in the future when more and more ppl know whats going on

 

Can you blame them?

Mostly it's go A or B or whatever.

 

Not once did I see some giving orders and also explaining briefly why and how.

[Bigglesof206]

It depends very much on the 'order', I find it quite annoying when someone calls out a plan that doesn't seem to have much thought behind it.

For example, your 'take A and B' type of thing - the composition of the two teams has a lot of bearing on this, for example if on Fault Line and  your team is DD heavy then capping C is an obvious move, whilst if you have Few/no DDs and a bunch of BBs it's stupid. Similarly I've been in teams where someone says 'take A and B' or whatever even though we've got 4 more ships than the enemy team, and can easily go for all three - giving the enemy team a huge problem to get us off all the caps.

 

One the other day - a guy deciding to all go south on Ocean, playing North to south - certainly on my PC (and everyone I've spoken to about it in my clan) it is difficult to target ships that are to your north on that map, due to the strong directional lighting. All going south is giving away a big tactical advantage, you want to have the other guy trying to make you out against the glare, not deliberately give yourself that problem.

 

So....frankly, most of the stuff people say at the start seems to have limited thought behind it, hasn't been thought through from the point of view of the balance of ships on each team, and sometimes displays a significant lack of awareness of the map itself. Very few obvious geniuses seem to be involved, so I usually ignore them!

 

(You want to lead, get a division together and lead that - a well coordinated division should be able to swing most battles).

Dave

[Exodude]

Its never beneficial to my own health to be the one leading the charge, or being the front of a line. As such I tend to follow other ships

 

[Ulbricht]

 

Can you blame them?

Mostly it's go A or B or whatever.

 

Not once did I see some giving orders and also explaining briefly why and how.

Exactly no you cant blame anyone because ppl are learning how to play still

I saw ppl "giving orders" quite a few times and any of those times i was cursing over the abscence of an report function if you know what i mean

[DumbleDerp]

I tend to let the team know my plans, i.e. the cap point I'll go for, or whether I'll support a certain BB or my line of attack. That's about it though.

[docmorningstar]

I've had pretty good responses, I usually wait a second to see what people's 'natural' inclination is. IE, if 2 DDs are going C, and everyone else is going A, I ask the DDs to cap C, and run for B, since we can't hold C.

 

It *seems* to work.

The only people who I can't get to listen are BB drivers.

 

I've also bumped into a couple of people who took charge, and as long as they do it 'pleasantly' - ie, 'hey DDs, can you cover XXX' it seems to work pretty ok.

 

 

[krautjaeger]

I've had pretty good responses, I usually wait a second to see what people's 'natural' inclination is. IE, if 2 DDs are going C, and everyone else is going A, I ask the DDs to cap C, and run for B, since we can't hold C.

 

It *seems* to work.

 

The only people who I can't get to listen are BB drivers.

 

I've also bumped into a couple of people who took charge, and as long as they do it 'pleasantly' - ie, 'hey DDs, can you cover XXX' it seems to work pretty ok.

 

 

 

Yeah, this is pretty much what I am talking about. Nudging gently. Not becoming the über admiral.

[armholeeio]

Nope i say barrrrt and skip merrily to my death following the lemmings

[mtm78]

Its never beneficial to my own health to be the one leading the charge, or being the front of a line. As such I tend to follow other ships

 

[Dagon_NOR]

There is a greyed out tactical button in the loading screen. We might get a pre battle tactics management tool someday.

 

This might become a quite usefull thing, even if its just about showing others what you intend to do in general.

[von_chom]

There is a greyed out tactical button in the loading screen. We might get a pre battle tactics management tool someday.

 

This might become a quite usefull thing, even if its just about showing others what you intend to do in general.

 

its WoWp based, they have it working over there, there will be game hints, most likely nothing to set up etc..

[Coenraad]

I try to actively help with chat and minimap. Sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't. But i feel that teamplay here is better then in WoT

[Nechrom]

I don't take charge in the more literal way, as in putting down tactics in chat. But I do make a habit of taking the physical lead as a DD or CL/CA to hopefully inspire some of my same class to act, if nothing else then at least as support for my advance.

[artisticgoose]

I try to. BUT it's internet gaming and everyone knows better than you! ;) It is what it is  so deal with it!

[rancidpunk]

I just say I'm "heading west",  "capping B", etc. for information in randoms.

 

Had a funny comedy duo try and take charge this weekend.

 

They parked their Cleveland's on either side of our only carrier and proceeded to try and tell the rest of where to go and how to fight to much laughter from the team.

 

Turned out they were a unicum clan commander and his deputy from WoT who thought their skills translated straight to WoWs.

 

How we laughed as our carrier and both of them got sunk by a BB and a destroyer, you should have heard the lecture we got from them for the rest of the game about how we all need to l2p but more importantly that we learn to take orders "from people senior to all of you" in their words.

 

We got our arses kicked of course but it was worth it just to imagine 2 WoT Purple Princess's stamping their feet and crying about it   

 

p.s. it was a classic moment when our CV driver asked why they were protecting him when he only had fighters and the enemy had no CV's, they didn't have an answer

[mtm78]

Yesterday had someone who in all caps wrote 'B AND C' and something else can't remember wasn't 100% sober. Somehow the all caps pissed me off a bit so I just asked 'y? And y all caps?', he didn't answer. I got a salvo of friendly torps across my bow while I was heading towards A, not even from the division the guy was in but some other random dude. He probably thought that once someone gives an 'order' they automatically become an admiral who's orders should be followed. I died pretty fast, they pushed A hard and I had to few backup. I was also the only tier 9 in the game iirc, and I think we lost the match ( not saying it was due to me dying so soon though... ).

 

Just trying to illustrate, if you do 'take charge' do it in a polite manner please, as even while you might be tactically true, if you act like a douche I will still do the opposite thing.

[OnboardG1]

I'll usually ask a DD to stealth cap the point I'm going to in my cruiser or BB with the offer of fire support once he gets there. In my DDs I just run with whatever plan makes sense from my side (normally capping mid and sweeping through a flank or vice versa). I can shape the game flow in my DD so I usually do it myself.

[Maglor_the_rum]

Coordination is poor, so usually i watch the map, figure out the allied fleet movement (usually a lemming train grown up with 2/3 of the fleet) and i decide my strategy around the tier and the ship i usually have under my [edited].