Newbie questions, bear with me, plz

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These questions were probably already answered, so sorry if asking them again, but I don't have time now to dig up answers.

I'm still a newbie in WoWs, I played some, but I haven't touched it for a year or so, before I had had enough of WoT and decided to give WoWs another chance.

So, history lesson over, I have some questions.

 

When you fully research a ship and unlock the next in line, then your ships becomes 'elite' just like in World of Tanks, but in WoT you can choose whether you want to collect more XP that you can exchange for Free XP with dubloons, or you can choose to allocate that XP to the crew. Is this later still an option in WoWs? My captains are so slow in gaining XP as I'm not much of and armchair Yamamoto yet.

 

Next Question: I got 14 days premium account from a supercontainer, and I have seen that you can take part in 3 campaign tasks at the same time with a premium account, but only 2 with a standard account. So my question, if I start 3 campaing task and manage to make some progress in all 3, but then my premium account expires, then one of them will get reseted? Or will I retain that progress, and will only be forbidden to take part in 3 at the same time?

 

Thx in advance

[Miessa3]

Welcome (back) to the Forums!

 

On to your questions:

 

17 minutes ago, Bad_Mojo_incoming said:

 

When you fully research a ship and unlock the next in line, then your ships becomes 'elite' just like in World of Tanks, but in WoT you can choose whether you want to collect more XP that you can exchange for Free XP with dubloons, or you can choose to allocate that XP to the crew. Is this later still an option in WoWs? My captains are so slow in gaining XP as I'm not much of and armchair Yamamoto yet.

 

No that option doesn't exist in WoWS sadly, at least not how you know it.

However once your captain reach the maximum 19 points, the further captain experience you earn with that captain will turn into "free captain xp" (not the same as normal "free xp") which you can use on whichever captain you like. The more 19 pointers you have the faster you will gain more free captain xp because of a snowball effect. Arguably free captain xp is the most valuable freely gindable (outside of missions/rewards) ressource in the game.

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Next Question: I got 14 days premium account from a supercontainer, and I have seen that you can take part in 3 campaign tasks at the same time with a premium account, but only 2 with a standard account. So my question, if I start 3 campaing task and manage to make some progress in all 3, but then my premium account expires, then one of them will get reseted? Or will I retain that progress, and will only be forbidden to take part in 3 at the same time?

I am not 100% sure on that because I am a whale whith mostly premium active (still 300+ days to go), but I think it should cancel the third task which you have to start over once you have space for it again.

Correct me if I am wrong on this one (other forumities) but thats what I would expect to happen.

Well apparently you can thanks Panocek.

 

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Thx in advance

No problem.

Feel free to come here and ask again if you need help with something. There are many nice people around here that like to help someone willing to learn about the game.

[Panocek]

10 minutes ago, Bad_Mojo_incoming said:

These questions were probably already answered, so sorry if asking them again, but I don't have time now to dig up answers.

I'm still a newbie in WoWs, I played some, but I haven't touched it for a year or so, before I had had enough of WoT and decided to give WoWs another chance.

So, history lesson over, I have some questions.

 

When you fully research a ship and unlock the next in line, then your ships becomes 'elite' just like in World of Tanks, but in WoT you can choose whether you want to collect more XP that you can exchange for Free XP with dubloons, or you can choose to allocate that XP to the crew. Is this later still an option in WoWs? My captains are so slow in gaining XP as I'm not much of and armchair Yamamoto yet.

 

Next Question: I got 14 days premium account from a supercontainer, and I have seen that you can take part in 3 campaign tasks at the same time with a premium account, but only 2 with a standard account. So my question, if I start 3 campaing task and manage to make some progress in all 3, but then my premium account expires, then one of them will get reseted? Or will I retain that progress, and will only be forbidden to take part in 3 at the same time?

 

Thx in advance

1) no, there is no option of "accelerating crew training" in WoWs. After eliting ship, any exp will simply pile up. For captain training, stack signal flags, camouflages with exp and captain exp bonus and good ol Premium Account. For getting them... Signals daily crate, completing Campaign Tasks, participating in events often give flags/camos, same with Public Tests, just create account there with IDENTICAL email as your account here, so you can get the goodies. April Fools/Halloween events are also good way of obtain Elite Commander Exp - pool of exp you use to (re)train captains and level them, you gather that usually by playing with maxed out (19lvl) captains 

 

2) you will be able to continue on 3rd task even if your premium account run out.

[Panocek]

1 minute ago, Bad_Mojo_incoming said:

 

On the first, thx, I already burnt through most of my signal flags and camo paints to advance to tier 8. Just unlocked my 2nd tier 8 ship last night, the Mogami, the 1st was the Bismarck, but that didn't work out so well for me, I'm more of a cruiser type guy. I sucked in both DDs and BBs. However, seeing what are some of the critea for the higher parts of the Yamamoto and Halsey campaings, I will need to reinvest into BBs (I might just go for the british line, as I got Lady Hood) and even Carriers...man, the latter isn't too appealing...Looks to me, that CVs are generally disliked by other players, just like Arty in WoT. (I hated them too, and hated playing arty.)

 

So you mean with my 2nd question is that should my premium account run out when I have made progress in all 3 tasks, then the one that gets 'disabled' will still retain the progress I made? Cz I've been having  a s***load of problems, trying to get the Dreadnought and the Whiterer medals...

 

Anyway, thx for the answers.

Well, campaigns towards "Legendary" Yamamoto and Halsey are all part of the plan to extract money from players, either for Free Exp conversion, premium account sales or port slots and for Carriers, give them a shot at least up to tier 6 (because tier 4 are universally crap) simply to get an idea what their limitations are. Like oh so famous "unlimited planes" 

[Miessa3]

1 hour ago, Bad_Mojo_incoming said:

However, seeing what are some of the critea for the higher parts of the Yamamoto and Halsey campaings, I will need to reinvest into BBs (I might just go for the british line, as I got Lady Hood) and even Carriers...man, the latter isn't too appealing..

 

1 hour ago, Bad_Mojo_incoming said:

I'll gove the carriers a go,...I need to, it seems. But I will definitley watch some tutorials for them before.

Just in case to make sure. Do you realize you can repeat easier missions several times to get the stars multiple times (not the other rewards for that mission though)?

I am fairly certain those campaigns don't force you to play carriers, it just takes longer without them. (repeating mission 1 and 2 over and over).

[Miessa3]

9 minutes ago, Bad_Mojo_incoming said:

I'm gonna sound like a dolt....WHAT?

 

If you complete a task in the campaign, then you can use the Star gained for it to fill in those tasks you couldn't complete or don't have the ship for it?

 

No what I meant is gaining stars for ultimatly going for the last mission which gives the final reward (Halsey or Yamamoto in that case).

For gaining stars to unlock the last mission for each stage you can simply repeat a mission you already did to get even more stars. You just won't get the extra rewards for that mission again.

For example Halsey I renember there were always a Mission 1 and a Mission 2 which required either grinding credits or base xp with no restriction of shipclass. Basically you don't HAVE to play carriers if you only goal is getting Halsey. If you however want to complete all the missions and/or get the rewards that are locked behind harder missions you have to bite in the sour apple and bring the required class.

[Miessa3]

52 minutes ago, Bad_Mojo_incoming said:

Good to know, I'm about to finish a 2star task in the Honourable Service mission 1, so I guess I'll just redo that one. And I can repeat this as many times I need to get enough stars to unlock the final task, that gives the big reward, right?

Yes that is correct.

For getting the stars you can just do the same tasks over and over until the last mission for each stage gets unlocked.

[Miessa3]

2 minutes ago, Bad_Mojo_incoming said:

 

Ah, goodie! I'm gonna grab me an Isoroku Yamamoto and Will Halsey in no time.....Yeah, I wish...but hey, at least I know that now.

Thx a million.

You are not alone. When those campaings were new I saw a lot of people complaining that they can't get to Halsey because they can't complete certain missions for whatever reason. Until someone explained this and they all go oh man if I knew ealier...

That's why I mentioned it after you sounded like you didn't know.

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22 minutes ago, Panocek said:

1) no, there is no option of "accelerating crew training" in WoWs. After eliting ship, any exp will simply pile up. For captain training, stack signal flags, camouflages with exp and captain exp bonus and good ol Premium Account. For getting them... Signals daily crate, completing Campaign Tasks, participating in events often give flags/camos, same with Public Tests, just create account there with IDENTICAL email as your account here, so you can get the goodies. April Fools/Halloween events are also good way of obtain Elite Commander Exp - pool of exp you use to (re)train captains and level them, you gather that usually by playing with maxed out (19lvl) captains 

 

2) you will be able to continue on 3rd task even if your premium account run out.

 

On the first, thx, I already burnt through most of my signal flags and camo paints to advance to tier 8. Just unlocked my 2nd tier 8 ship last night, the Mogami, the 1st was the Bismarck, but that didn't work out so well for me, I'm more of a cruiser type guy. I sucked in both DDs and BBs. However, seeing what are some of the critea for the higher parts of the Yamamoto and Halsey campaings, I will need to reinvest into BBs (I might just go for the british line, as I got Lady Hood) and even Carriers...man, the latter isn't too appealing...Looks to me, that CVs are generally disliked by other players, just like Arty in WoT. (I hated them too, and hated playing arty.)

 

So you mean with my 2nd question is that should my premium account run out when I have made progress in all 3 tasks, then the one that gets 'disabled' will still retain the progress I made? Cz I've been having  a s***load of problems, trying to get the Dreadnought and the Whiterer medals...

 

Anyway, thx for the answers.

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2 minutes ago, Panocek said:

Well, campaigns towards "Legendary" Yamamoto and Halsey are all part of the plan to extract money from players, either for Free Exp conversion, premium account sales or port slots and for Carriers, give them a shot at least up to tier 6 (because tier 4 are universally crap) simply to get an idea what their limitations are. Like oh so famous "unlimited planes" 

 

Well, after blowing a mini fortune on WoT, I wish to keep my spending on WoWs to a minimum. I bought a tier 8 premium, the Montpelier for farming and an AL container, but is all. Some, 500 gold here and there (once a month) is okay I guess, but no more.

 

I'll gove the carriers a go,...I need to, it seems. But I will definitley watch some tutorials for them before.

[Panocek]

23 minutes ago, Bad_Mojo_incoming said:

 

Well, after blowing a mini fortune on WoT, I wish to keep my spending on WoWs to a minimum. I bought a tier 8 premium, the Montpelier for farming and an AL container, but is all. Some, 500 gold here and there (once a month) is okay I guess, but no more.

 

I'll gove the carriers a go,...I need to, it seems. But I will definitley watch some tutorials for them before.

Keep in mind to look for tutorials dated "2019", as there are quite a few for old RTS iteration

 

Besides, for Campaigns you don't have to do all the tasks, you can repeat already completed tasks to get required amount of stars, without rewards obviously. So in theory you should be able to skip CV related tasks.

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3 minutes ago, Panocek said:

Keep in mind to look for tutorials dated "2019", as there are quite a few for old RTS iteration

Yeah, I know. The CVs rework is one of them. Though, the only problem with it is the way they can just halt the attack and teleport planes back to the ship, which is ridiculous.

[Panocek]

1 minute ago, Bad_Mojo_incoming said:

Yeah, I know. The CVs rework is one of them. Though, the only problem with it is the way they can just halt the attack and teleport planes back to the ship, which is ridiculous.

If you mean recalling with F, only way of "teleporting" is doing accelerated recall/bailout. Otherwise any use of F key within any sort of AA will end with "press F to pay respect for shot down pilots"

 

And to "get gud" with CVs I'm afraid you need to get familiar with exploits/bugs as such. Considering they were reported like months ago and still stand, you can assume they are working as intended and they fit into WG understanding of "reducing skill gap", one of the reasons why old RTS carriers were "bad"

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1 hour ago, Miessa3 said:

 

Just in case to make sure. Do you realize you can repeat easier missions several times to get the stars multiple times (not the other rewards for that mission though)?

I am fairly certain those campaigns don't force you to play carriers, it just takes longer without them. (repeating mission 1 and 2 over and over).

I'm gonna sound like a dolt....WHAT?

 

If you complete a task in the campaign, then you can use the Star gained for it to fill in those tasks you couldn't complete or don't have the ship for it?

 

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4 minutes ago, Miessa3 said:

No what I meant is gaining stars for ultimatly going for the last mission which gives the final reward (Halsey or Yamamoto in that case).

For gaining stars to unlock the last mission for each stage you can simply repeat a mission you already did to get even more stars. You just won't get the extra rewards for that mission again.

For example Halsey I renember there were always a Mission 1 and a Mission 2 which required either grinding credits or base xp with no restriction of shipclass. Basically you don't HAVE to play carriers if you only goal is getting Halsey. If you want to complete all the missions and/or get the rewards that are locked behind harder missions you have to bite in the sour apple and bring the required class.

Ah, well sh*t, and here I was....actually trying to complete each and EVERY ONE of the tasks in each set of missions...Lol, get a load of this loser! *points at himself*

 

So, if I start over a task and finish it, I won't get the original reward (flags, paint, consumeables, etc), but I get the stars for it. 1 for easier tasks, 2 for harder tasks, 3 for even harder, etc...

 

Good to know, I'm about to finish a 2star task in the Honourable Service mission 1, so I guess I'll just redo that one. And I can repeat this as many times I need to get enough stars to unlock the final task, that gives the big reward, right?

[DeletedUser]

2 minutes ago, Miessa3 said:

Yes that is correct.

For getting the stars you can just do the same tasks over and over until the last mission for each stage gets unlocked.

 

Ah, goodie! I'm gonna grab me an Isoroku Yamamoto and Will Halsey in no time.....Yeah, I wish...but hey, at least I know that now.

Thx a million.

[DeletedUser]

1 minute ago, Miessa3 said:

You are not alone. When those campaings were new I saw a lot of people complaining that they can't get to Halsey because they can't complete certain missions for whatever reason. Until someone explained this and they all go oh man if I knew ealier...

That's why I mentioned it after you sounded like you didn't know.

Like, I said, good to know. I can imagine the frustration of players not knowing something like this a for a long time. My platoon mate from World of Tanks (we have been playing, or played for 4.5 years), he started WoT before I did and for almost 3 years, he didn't know he could sell the modules on his tanks, like the guns, the engine, the turret, the tracks, just like here in WoWs where you can sell unused engines, turrets, hulls, and range finders.

And he was always complaining about being short on credits....and I told him, why don't you just sell the stock and unused modules of those 100 tanks you have researched so far? He said he didn't know he could do that....I told him how he could and would you look at that!...He made an easy 10M credits...which equals about 35-40 million in WoWs credits.

 

And this same thing was repeated again when the the camo painings and emblems became available to sell...Guy used to buy everything for gold and had literrally MILLIONS of credits in unused skins, emblems and other 'cosmetic stuff.'...

 

Well, one thing is for sure, it's NEVER a mistake to ask others who know more than you!

 

Wish we could purchase consumables, flags and other 1-battle stuff in WoWs like we can in WoT, when there is a discount. In WoT we usually stock up on consumables in bulk.

[Panocek]

6 hours ago, Bad_Mojo_incoming said:

Wish we could purchase consumables, flags and other 1-battle stuff in WoWs like we can in WoT, when there is a discount. In WoT we usually stock up on consumables in bulk.

Which is exactly THE reason you can't stockpile on goodies during discount

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11 hours ago, Panocek said:

Which is exactly THE reason you can't stockpile on goodies during discount

Ah, the usual WG greed...I get it...what a surprise...

One last thing, on tier 8 ships you can start mounting the Target Acquisition upgrade which increases your sight and detection range...does it also extend your main battery firing range? I don't think so, but I wish to know, without having to spent 2M credits for a 'trial run.'

Thx.

[Panocek]

13 minutes ago, Bad_Mojo_incoming said:

Ah, the usual WG greed...I get it...what a surprise...

One last thing, on tier 8 ships you can start mounting the Target Acquisition upgrade which increases your sight and detection range...does it also extend your main battery firing range? I don't think so, but I wish to know, without having to spent 2M credits for a 'trial run.'

Thx.

Target Acquisition increases draw range, proximity spotting from 2km to 3km and torpedo detection. only instance where you might need draw range would be Shimakaze with meme 20km torps, as she can't see that far  latter two aren't bad per se, but this upgrade shares slot with Concealment. Even during Year of the Carrier concealment reigns supreme.

 

Only instances where you can get away without Concealment upgrade are hightier French cruisers, when you get bored of island camping and want to make use of their speed and Khabarovsk, because WG thought gunboat DD with battleship kind of rudder shift time will be funny

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7 minutes ago, Panocek said:

Target Acquisition increases draw range, proximity spotting from 2km to 3km and torpedo detection. only instance where you might need draw range would be Shimakaze with meme 20km torps, as she can't see that far  latter two aren't bad per se, but this upgrade shares slot with Concealment. Even during Year of the Carrier concealment reigns supreme.

 

Only instances where you can get away without Concealment upgrade are hightier French cruisers, when you get bored of island camping and want to make use of their speed and Khabarovsk, because WG thought gunboat DD with battleship kind of rudder shift time will be funny

Ah, okay, so it won't extend the range of the main guns....that's a bummer. Usually having to face tier 10 BBs with 20+ km range, with my Mogami or Montpelier which has less than 16km firing range. But I guess, thats the life of a japanese or american cruiser captain.

[Panocek]

5 minutes ago, Bad_Mojo_incoming said:

Ah, okay, so it won't extend the range of the main guns....that's a bummer. Usually having to face tier 10 BBs with 20+ km range, with my Mogami or Montpelier which has less than 16km firing range. But I guess, thats the life of a japanese or american cruiser captain.

Island is cruiser waifu for a reason. Besides, just because ship have long range, doesn't necessarily mean she will be effective while you will be spotted and shot at anyway. Just tack Spotter instead Radar on Monty and feel the... futility (not sure if Montpelier have spotter option, regular Cleve does)

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2 minutes ago, Panocek said:

Island is cruiser waifu for a reason. Besides, just because ship have long range, doesn't necessarily mean she will be effective while you will be spotted and shot at anyway. Just tack Spotter instead Radar on Monty and feel the... futility (not sure if Montpelier have spotter option, regular Cleve does)

It does, and i tried it yesterday...well, the extra 2kms range is nice, but the horrible shell speed make long range bombardment even more tricky then before...hm, I guess that's the price you pay for being able to hug islands...might as well get used to it.

 

And thx once again for the campaign/task advice. I implemented it ASAP and collected 125 gold from the very first challange.

[Panocek]

11 minutes ago, Bad_Mojo_incoming said:

It does, and i tried it yesterday...well, the extra 2kms range is nice, but the horrible shell speed make long range bombardment even more tricky then before...hm, I guess that's the price you pay for being able to hug islands...might as well get used to it.

 

And thx once again for the campaign/task advice. I implemented it ASAP and collected 125 gold from the very first challange.

On other hand, slow shell velocity and thus "moon arcs" allow US light cruisers to (ab)use almost any island, even at relatively short distances.