Dear Yamato captains

[VictorHuge]

Stop firing High-Explosive shells, use armor piercing shells. Armor piercing shels for 99,9% of time, the last 0,1% is for when you really need that  spotted shima ,at less than 6km, dead. 

 

Kind regards

Frustrated VictorHuge

 

PS! This is a rant.

[Nechrom]

Mission:

Set at least 4 fires on enemy ships. 

[Yosha_AtaIante]

Vor 12 Minuten, VictorHuge sagte:

Stop firing High-Explosive shells, use armor piercing shells. Armor piercing shels for 99,9% of time, the last 0,1% is for when you really need that  spotted shima ,at less than 6km, dead. 

 

Kind regards

Frustrated VictorHuge

 

PS! This is a rant.

Isn't it good to shoot HE at another angled Yamato that sits 15km away reversing?

I'm a 40% winrate potato in yamato btw i'm asking because i don't know.

[VictorHuge]

1 minute ago, L0V3_and_PE4CE said:

Isn't it good to shoot HE at another angled Yamato that sits 15km away reversing?

I'm a 40% winrate potato in yamato btw i'm asking because i don't know.

At 15 km you overmatch his bow so fire ap. At some point you hit his "immunity" zone, where your shells stop beeing effective (think its somewhere around 17km or so), at that point shoot at something else or just turn around and reposition. Im sure there are others here on forum who can explain that a bit better than me.

[___V_E_N_O_M___]

6 minutes ago, L0V3_and_PE4CE said:

Isn't it good to shoot HE at another angled Yamato that sits 15km away reversing?

I'm a 40% winrate potato in yamato btw i'm asking because i don't know.

What happened to your hearts and stars?? Im disappointed forget about TOMATO

[Yosha_AtaIante]

Vor 1 Minute, ___V_E_N_O_M___ sagte:

What happened to your hearts and stars?? Im disappointed forget about TOMATO

I tend to try to not overdo it if i ask more seriously so people don't cry at me for using them. I instead put a shitton as "location"

[Uglesett]

1 hour ago, L0V3_and_PE4CE said:

Isn't it good to shoot HE at another angled Yamato that sits 15km away reversing?

I'm a 40% winrate potato in yamato btw i'm asking because i don't know.

Usually not worth it unless they're low health and you have a reasonable chance of finishing them off. Otherwise you're usually better off ignoring eachother to shoot at juicier targets.

 

Basically: If you have any target available that can get spanked by ap you fire ap at them. If you need to switch to HE, chances are you're shooting at the wrong target.

[DFens_666]

2 hours ago, L0V3_and_PE4CE said:

Isn't it good to shoot HE at another angled Yamato that sits 15km away reversing?

I'm a 40% winrate potato in yamato btw i'm asking because i don't know.

 

Probably the only viable target for HE would be DDs... and even then, your AP does good damage anyway. I dont really use HE ever in my Musashi (dont have yamato yet) You could target a GK with HE since he can basicly bowtank you. Or you shoot his guns/superstructure, which works aswell.

 

If you have to shoot an enemy yamato at 15km, then you can shoot AP at his bow. However, most of his Deck will bounce your shells. Upper belt works aswell. Otherwise you should probably go for another target, or reposition yourself.

[Yosha_AtaIante]

thank you everyone. It will take me another 2k battles to be any good in BBs.

[HaachamaShipping]

2 hours ago, DFens_666 said:

 

Probably the only viable target for HE would be DDs... and even then, your AP does good damage anyway.

Absolutely worth it if you are sure you are shooting a DD next. The only BB with more HE alpha on a shell is 457 Conqueror. 7.3k alpha per shell can absolutely nuke DDs.

[Nechrom]

50 minutes ago, Cagliostro_chan said:

Absolutely worth it if you are sure you are shooting a DD next. The only BB with more HE alpha on a shell is 457 Conqueror. 7.3k alpha per shell can absolutely nuke DDs.

Roma does 1.7k on a HE pen and 1.2k on an AP over-pen. 

Tirpitz does 1.5k HE versus 1.2k AP.

 

Some BBs might as well never swap.

[HaachamaShipping]

8 minutes ago, Nechrom said:

Roma does 1.7k on a HE pen and 1.2k on an AP over-pen. 

Tirpitz does 1.5k HE versus 1.2k AP.

 

Some BBs might as well never swap.

So? Yamato is not one of those though, given it's 1.4k on an overpen vs 2.4k on an HE pen. If the question was about some German or Italian BB, sure, I'd not bother. But IJN improved HE damage is what matters here.

[Wilkinson87]

14 hours ago, VictorHuge said:

Stop firing High-Explosive shells, use armor piercing shells. Armor piercing shels for 99,9% of time, the last 0,1% is for when you really need that  spotted shima ,at less than 6km, dead. 

 

Kind regards

Frustrated VictorHuge

 

PS! This is a rant.

Hey comrade.

Dont know whats happrned with few ships but something isnt that right.I noticed that monty and yami perform worse then before.Way more overpens, even to broadside targets.....My clan mates noticed too, thats why some of them started to sling HE.....I still prefer AP but rly dissapoints me when perfectly aimed salvos does overpens....Btw Im using legendery on yami and still noticable that with legendary most time dispersion is awfull....Im just confused, or someone else noticed this too?

[Lieut_Gruber]

12 hours ago, DFens_666 said:

 

Probably the only viable target for HE would be DDs... and even then, your AP does good damage anyway. I dont really use HE ever in my Musashi (dont have yamato yet) You could target a GK with HE since he can basicly bowtank you. Or you shoot his guns/superstructure, which works aswell.

 

If you have to shoot an enemy yamato at 15km, then you can shoot AP at his bow. However, most of his Deck will bounce your shells. Upper belt works aswell. Otherwise you should probably go for another target, or reposition yourself.

Bow on Moskva or Stalingrad?

And most people seem to forget IJN had the best HE until the UK showed up.

[DFens_666]

9 hours ago, Cagliostro_chan said:

Absolutely worth it if you are sure you are shooting a DD next.

 

Thats kinda the problem If so, then ofc. But if something goes wrong, then you could miss a potentially good AP salvo.

 

7 minutes ago, Lieut_Gruber said:

Bow on Moskva or Stalingrad?

 

Yeah true, but personaly i rather pick another target if possible. Killing a bow on Moskva/Stalin shooting HE in a BB will take far too long. If possible, get to their broadside, or kill other ships first. Depending how far you are away, you can target their upper bow too. Moskva can be citadelled from their, Stalin seems very improbable (alltho ive heard that its possible).

[HystericalAccuracy]

14 hours ago, VictorHuge said:

Stop firing High-Explosive shells

i am with you here but my clan-mate got "Set x fires" with his Montana twice in a day

 

He said "shame, but i´ll do it" 

[howardxu_23]

57 minutes ago, Wilkinson87 said:

Hey comrade.

Dont know whats happrned with few ships but something isnt that right.I noticed that monty and yami perform worse then before.Way more overpens, even to broadside targets.....My clan mates noticed too, thats why some of them started to sling HE.....I still prefer AP but rly dissapoints me when perfectly aimed salvos does overpens....Btw Im using legendery on yami and still noticable that with legendary most time dispersion is awfull....Im just confused, or someone else noticed this too?

It’s either something weird with ap shell coding, or it’s because one of her disadvantages is also her advantage: her shell size. According to the armor fusing rule, it needs at least 1/6 of the shell calibre worth of armor at nominal thickness to actually arm the said fuse, so 77mm minimum which means it is far less likely to actually arm upon thinner armor, plus the size and weight of her shells also means they don’t really slow down that much when passing though armor(if that is modelled in game) 

20 minutes ago, VIadoCro said:

i am with you here but my clan-mate got "Set xfires" with his Montana twice in a day

 

He said "shame, but i´ll do it" 

I have gotten the set 4x fires in the Amagi, “easy enough”, I thought, find the nearest bb and fire 2 or so salvos. 5 salons later without any fires at all I gave up :P, only to complete the said mission when brawling with mutiple BBs. At close range.

[Prospect_b]

15 hours ago, VictorHuge said:

Stop firing High-Explosive shells, use armor piercing shells. Armor piercing shels for 99,9% of time, the last 0,1% is for when you really need that  spotted shima ,at less than 6km, dead. 

 

Kind regards

Frustrated VictorHuge

 

PS! This is a rant.

As other ppl have said, it's those stupid missions where you have to set fires. I have them all the time with BBs. (don't always do it cause F it)

Blame WG and their braindead mission design. You would think they'd have learned by now, right?

[anonym_RGvUdEcxWWvD]

I honestly feel they nerfed Yammy in secret. My dispersion is godawful compared to last year. I get much more of overpens, bounce and scatter. I wouldnt blame anyone shootting with HE, infact thats what Im gonna do from now on.

[lovelacebeer]

It is so annoying when you get the mission requirement to start a certain number of fires but usually get it done early in the first couple of salvos at long range targets then switch back to AP 

[KielYourself]

15 hours ago, VictorHuge said:

Stop firing High-Explosive shells, use armor piercing shells. Armor piercing shels for 99,9% of time, the last 0,1% is for when you really need that  spotted shima ,at less than 6km, dead. 

How do you get these so called "Armor Piercing" shells? Are they some kind of premium ammo? 

[asalonen]

16 hours ago, VictorHuge said:

Kind regards

Frustrated VictorHuge

I'm only replying to compliment you on your magnificent player name -- We already admired it in a random battle yesterday evening with a division buddy (neither of us played a Yamato).

It very eloquently acknowledges the great 19th century French poet and novelist, yet still manages to sound like a gay porn superstar!

[HaachamaShipping]

3 hours ago, DFens_666 said:

Yeah true, but personaly i rather pick another target if possible. Killing a bow on Moskva/Stalin shooting HE in a BB will take far too long. If possible, get to their broadside, or kill other ships first. Depending how far you are away, you can target their upper bow too. Moskva can be citadelled from their, Stalin seems very improbable (alltho ive heard that its possible).

Stalin is more probable than Moskva, as the 50 mm section is less. It isn't very common though.

[DFens_666]

4 minutes ago, Cagliostro_chan said:

Stalin is more probable than Moskva, as the 50 mm section is less. It isn't very common though.

 

But Stalin has this weird protective nose blocking the path to the Citadel. We tested it in training room at different ranges with Musashi and GK against a bow on Stalin. We failed to get a Citadel. Not sure which range would work best...

On the other hand, ive gotten frontal Citadel with GK against Moskva at ~11km.

[HaachamaShipping]

5 minutes ago, DFens_666 said:

 

But Stalin has this weird protective nose blocking the path to the Citadel. We tested it in training room at different ranges with Musashi and GK against a bow on Stalin. We failed to get a Citadel. Not sure which range would work best...

On the other hand, ive gotten frontal Citadel with GK against Moskva at ~11km.

I got multicitadelled by an NC through the bow once and it was basically at 9-11 km. So, American slow shells can do it.