[N_R_A] Hopeless_Guppy Players 3,753 posts Report post #1 Posted May 15, 2019 How do you actually play this, seeing as there is no cover, do you circle around the edges or not? Ring maps, please WG for the love of god give us the option to choose not to play them, just as they have done in WoT's 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NAN0] HaachamaShipping Players 8,474 posts 10,052 battles Report post #2 Posted May 15, 2019 2 minutes ago, NoobySkooby said: How do you actually play this, seeing as there is no cover, do you circle around the edges or not? Ring maps, please WG for the love of god give us the option to choose not to play them, just as they have done in WoT's You either are open water capable or you die. Easy as that. 6 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[N_R_A] Hopeless_Guppy Players 3,753 posts Report post #3 Posted May 15, 2019 2 minutes ago, Cagliostro_chan said: You either are open water capable or you die. Easy as that. Fair enough, had one battle earlier on, with three caps, our team went to one cap, the reds to the other, B was left, I was trying to help out Minotaur but as usual we was the only ones pushing, so yeah I died, as maps go the loss of islands is a bit disorientating. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NAN0] HaachamaShipping Players 8,474 posts 10,052 battles Report post #4 Posted May 15, 2019 1 minute ago, NoobySkooby said: Fair enough, had one battle earlier on, with three caps, our team went to one cap, the reds to the other, B was left, I was trying to help out Minotaur but as usual we was the only ones pushing, so yeah I died, as maps go the loss of islands is a bit disorientating. The map is one of the oldest and most terrible designs in the game. It was terrible back in 2015 and it is still terrible now. It is rare, but WG seems to enjoy keeping this as some kind of Russian Roulette, I guess. 1 1 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BBMM] BLUB__BLUB [BBMM] Players 8,818 posts 17,199 battles Report post #5 Posted May 15, 2019 9 minutes ago, Cagliostro_chan said: You either are open water capable or you die. Easy as that. You mean, you know how to form groups or you die. Unless you have particular stealth, that is. DDs do fine. Conqkek does fine. Just about all the rest have a problem... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[WGP2W] LemonadeWarriorITA [WGP2W] Beta Tester 1,669 posts 8,186 battles Report post #6 Posted May 15, 2019 When you feel comfortable on Ocean in any ship you know you got the basics right :) Great map and should be increased in rotation. 20 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NAN0] HaachamaShipping Players 8,474 posts 10,052 battles Report post #7 Posted May 15, 2019 Just now, BLUB__BLUB said: You mean, you know how to form groups or you die. Unless you have particular stealth, that is. DDs do fine. Conqkek does fine. Just about all the rest have a problem... Stealth torping DDs are open water capable. Conkek is open water capable, just like all BBs. Zao is open water capable. It's basically stuff like Des Moines, Worcester, (radar) Mino that runs into trouble fast. And it isn't about stealth. It's about being able to tank or avoid hits reliably. Something like Moskva has piss poor stealth, but very likely will get more accomplished than a Mino that has great stealth. And it doesn't matter if you form a group. Nothing forces the enemy to shoot the BB in the group instead of aiming for the squishy cruiser. 2 minutes ago, LemonadeWarrior said: When you feel comfortable on Ocean in any ship you know you got the basics right :) Great map and should be increased in rotation. If you feel comfortable on this map in radar Nep, then I'm really questioning that. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[POPPY] Chaos_Umbra [POPPY] Players 1,662 posts 20,300 battles Report post #8 Posted May 15, 2019 Ocean... the most historically accurate map in the game! 19 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-SBG-] ColonelPete Players 38,559 posts 19,178 battles Report post #9 Posted May 15, 2019 23 minutes ago, Cagliostro_chan said: You either are open water capable or you die. Easy as that. Or you are VERY carful. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NAN0] HaachamaShipping Players 8,474 posts 10,052 battles Report post #10 Posted May 15, 2019 2 minutes ago, ColonelPete said: Or you are VERY carful. Ah yeah, Massachusetts... not like it has actual armour. Yes, it likes cover to play around, but it's hard to argue that BBs cannot inherently get by without hard cover to keep them alive. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CptBarney Players 8,127 posts 245 battles Report post #11 Posted May 15, 2019 Ocean is a great map ladz. make sure to make motor noises while driving smoll boat. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BBMM] BLUB__BLUB [BBMM] Players 8,818 posts 17,199 battles Report post #12 Posted May 15, 2019 19 minutes ago, Cagliostro_chan said: Stealth torping DDs are open water capable. Conkek is open water capable, just like all BBs. Zao is open water capable. It's basically stuff like Des Moines, Worcester, (radar) Mino that runs into trouble fast. And it isn't about stealth. It's about being able to tank or avoid hits reliably. Something like Moskva has piss poor stealth, but very likely will get more accomplished than a Mino that has great stealth. And it doesn't matter if you form a group. Nothing forces the enemy to shoot the BB in the group instead of aiming for the squishy cruiser. I'm not agreeing with that, some BBs are piss-poor. On fire all the time... Also, the point of grouping up is not to sail 'in formation' but rather to concentrate fire and co-operate. Then again... this is WG, teams... are horrible most of the time. And yes Moskva is OK, as it has radar... DDs usually good, even the gunboats. I wish they'd put it in CB... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[MORIA] WarburtonLee Players 784 posts 11,585 battles Report post #13 Posted May 15, 2019 It is the best map in the game, nothing to block your dmg, and nowhere for the cowards to hide 6 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[WGP2W] LemonadeWarriorITA [WGP2W] Beta Tester 1,669 posts 8,186 battles Report post #14 Posted May 15, 2019 26 minutes ago, Cagliostro_chan said: If you feel comfortable on this map in radar Nep, then I'm really questioning that. It doesn’t really matter. Still plenty options. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NAN0] HaachamaShipping Players 8,474 posts 10,052 battles Report post #15 Posted May 15, 2019 2 minutes ago, BLUB__BLUB said: I'm not agreeing with that, some BBs are piss-poor. On fire all the time... No. Islands are what keeps the Worcester that puts you on fire enough. Open water means at any time you can just blap some cruiser that picks a fight out of existence. and sure, that Henri that keeps spamming you might be annoying as hell, but either it is close enough that you can wreck it or far enough that you go invisible. 4 minutes ago, BLUB__BLUB said: Also, the point of grouping up is not to sail 'in formation' but rather to concentrate fire and co-operate. Spread out, create cross fires. You don't need to be bunched up and it creates no survivability bonus for those that do bunch up, unless there's a CV involved. 5 minutes ago, BLUB__BLUB said: And yes Moskva is OK, as it has radar... DDs usually good, even the gunboats. 12 km radar on a 14+ km detection... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NAN0] HaachamaShipping Players 8,474 posts 10,052 battles Report post #16 Posted May 15, 2019 3 minutes ago, LemonadeWarrior said: It doesn’t really matter. Still plenty options. Die broadside or angled? Plenty of options. The moment you get spotted, you get focused by 5 BBs and half the cruisers and there's nowhere to hide. The options! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[I-J-N] Karasu_Browarszky [I-J-N] Players 13,025 posts Report post #17 Posted May 15, 2019 40 minutes ago, Cagliostro_chan said: The map is one of the oldest and most terrible designs in the game. It was terrible back in 2015 and it is still terrible now. It is rare, but WG seems to enjoy keeping this as some kind of Russian Roulette, I guess. Best map in the game!!! 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[HAKUY] Yosha_AtaIante Players 8,032 posts 19,168 battles Report post #18 Posted May 15, 2019 I love ocean ♡☆♡ 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BBMM] BLUB__BLUB [BBMM] Players 8,818 posts 17,199 battles Report post #19 Posted May 15, 2019 1 minute ago, Cagliostro_chan said: No. Islands are what keeps the Worcester that puts you on fire enough. Open water means at any time you can just blap some cruiser that picks a fight out of existence. and sure, that Henri that keeps spamming you might be annoying as hell, but either it is close enough that you can wreck it or far enough that you go invisible. Spread out, create cross fires. You don't need to be bunched up and it creates no survivability bonus for those that do bunch up, unless there's a CV involved. 12 km radar on a 14+ km detection... Apparently you have a whole different experience than me.... 30 sec reload means HE cruiser gets enough time to set you on fire... and again... unless you have friends. And then he stealths up again. Oh revenge, your name is Conqueror. Hey at least 12km radar means you know WHAT is wrecking you... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[WGP2W] LemonadeWarriorITA [WGP2W] Beta Tester 1,669 posts 8,186 battles Report post #20 Posted May 15, 2019 6 minutes ago, Cagliostro_chan said: Die broadside or angled? Plenty of options. The moment you get spotted, you get focused by 5 BBs and half the cruisers and there's nowhere to hide. The options! That is the decision you make. The better you get the more you will appreciate Ocean. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[HAKUY] Yosha_AtaIante Players 8,032 posts 19,168 battles Report post #21 Posted May 15, 2019 Vor 2 Minuten, LemonadeWarrior sagte: That is the decision you make. The better you get the more you will appreciate Ocean. Does it work in reverse to? ☆ The more i appreciate ocean the better i get? ♡ 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CptBarney Players 8,127 posts 245 battles Report post #22 Posted May 15, 2019 4 minutes ago, L0V3_and_PE4CE said: Does it work in reverse to? ☆ The more i appreciate ocean the better i get? ♡ ye untill you manage to do wat god tabbu can do. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[HAKUY] Yosha_AtaIante Players 8,032 posts 19,168 battles Report post #23 Posted May 15, 2019 Vor 3 Stunden, CptBarney sagte: ye untill you manage to do wat god tabbu can do. I'm already past all that. ☆ https://youtube/1t8c4FIEF8U I can listen to this and brag about it on the internet ♡ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CptBarney Players 8,127 posts 245 battles Report post #24 Posted May 15, 2019 9 minutes ago, L0V3_and_PE4CE said: I'm already past all that. ☆ https://youtu.be/1t8c4FIEF8U I can listen to this and brag about it on the internet ♡ WHAT. IN. THE. BLOODY. HELL. IS. THAT. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[HAKUY] Yosha_AtaIante Players 8,032 posts 19,168 battles Report post #25 Posted May 15, 2019 Vor 2 Minuten, CptBarney sagte: WHAT. IN. THE. BLOODY. HELL. IS. THAT. Now teach me how to correctly post yt vids or i steel your kids ☆ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
