[LEGIO] LadyJess Players 154 posts Report post #1 Posted May 4, 2019 Tier 4 CV planes get shredded in tier 5 matches. BUFF the planes or just [edited]remove the horrible new CV wreck. 1 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Panocek Players 13,176 posts 13,617 battles Report post #2 Posted May 4, 2019 4 minutes ago, LadyJess said: Tier 4 CV planes get shredded in tier 5 matches. BUFF the planes or just [edited]remove the horrible new CV wreck. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NLD] Zigiran Players 408 posts 13,396 battles Report post #3 Posted May 4, 2019 T4 planes can not be killed by T3 and T4, please lower their health! So it is just how you look at it I guess? 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cambera_1 Players 1,018 posts 23,940 battles Report post #4 Posted May 4, 2019 Planes from the Langley and the Hermes aren't strong, but they aren't that bad in a T5 match. I can't speak about Hosho's. Their planes can be downed in T4 matches too. Like all tiers there are certain ships that have better AA and it pays to stay away from them. A CV should not be able to strike at any target without risking planes, it isn't as though Carriers are putting their hulls in the firing line, just the planes. Handle the planes badly and loose them against the wrong target then you are going to struggle. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[LEGIO] LadyJess Players 154 posts Report post #5 Posted May 12, 2019 On 5/4/2019 at 7:23 AM, Panocek said: Yep,, typical WG NON thinking process Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[KLUNJ] beercrazy [KLUNJ] Beta Tester 1,509 posts 11,905 battles Report post #6 Posted May 12, 2019 Yes they are a bit weak but your hardly playing them for lon One of the problems with ol pre rework is the tier 4 cvs where used to epic seal club and as such now they are more like what they should be If anything needs doing it's the 1 torp drop crap as most bbs can avoid it if they start to move before the attack 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NWP] The_Shungite_Wizard Players 386 posts 17,506 battles Report post #7 Posted May 12, 2019 Dude, u can take a zero point commander in a langley and go seal clubbing hard 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[HU-SD] Prospect_b Players 2,655 posts 14,214 battles Report post #8 Posted May 12, 2019 14 minutes ago, beercrazy said: Yes they are a bit weak but your hardly playing them for lon Is that so? I don't really know how long the average player needs to play those tier fours to get to the next, but I'm gonna guess it's quite a few - like close to 40? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[HAKUY] Yosha_AtaIante Players 8,032 posts 19,179 battles Report post #9 Posted May 13, 2019 Vor 24 Minuten, Saiyko sagte: Is that so? I don't really know how long the average player needs to play those tier fours to get to the next, but I'm gonna guess it's quite a few - like close to 40? If we count the average player without premium and strong cammos/ flags the recieved exp would be around 600 - 1k per battle depending on performance / win which translates into at least 50+ battles. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RenamedUser_92906789 Players 5,828 posts Report post #10 Posted May 13, 2019 DMG output is kinda low and with that - rewards. For instance ... I only made it once to the top of the board in coop. Even if my every drop counts. That single torp drop for 3k DMG is ... meh. IJN AP bombs only work on BBs (citadel hits), but the DMG is also very low. Relying on flooding and fires I guess ... RNG here we go. So for someone who thought that could grind them in coop .... ye, nah, nah. That would take for ages. 3x 60k XP goal with average of 500-600 per coop battle (if you do good).... feels depressing :) That would take around ... if I remember I calculated .... around 300 games in coop (if not more) for all 3 T4 ships :) But there is virtually no real AA in those tiers ... so OP ... dont know what gives you trouble besides a very slow, unsatisfying and unrewarding grind. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RenamedUser_92906789 Players 5,828 posts Report post #11 Posted May 13, 2019 4 hours ago, The_fun_police said: Dude, u can take a zero point commander in a langley and go seal clubbing hard That was true before the rework ;) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[KLUNJ] beercrazy [KLUNJ] Beta Tester 1,509 posts 11,905 battles Report post #12 Posted May 13, 2019 7 hours ago, Saiyko said: Is that so? I don't really know how long the average player needs to play those tier fours to get to the next, but I'm gonna guess it's quite a few - like close to 40? 7 hours ago, L0V3_and_PE4CE said: If we count the average player without premium and strong cammos/ flags the recieved exp would be around 600 - 1k per battle depending on performance / win which translates into at least 50+ battles. ouch didn't think about it that way I always have premium and put flags on all ships that I am grinding so didn't take into account the free to play players Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NWP] The_Shungite_Wizard Players 386 posts 17,506 battles Report post #13 Posted May 13, 2019 2 hours ago, nambr9 said: That was true before the rework ;) I guess nothing has changed Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CHEFT] DFens_666 Players 13,162 posts 11,029 battles Report post #14 Posted May 13, 2019 Had a Langley yesterday in T7MM because they faildivisioned. He was able to drop my Lyon 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[GWR] illy Players 913 posts 18,828 battles Report post #15 Posted May 13, 2019 On 5/4/2019 at 7:18 PM, LadyJess said: Tier 4 CV planes get shredded in tier 5 matches. BUFF the planes or just [edited]remove the horrible new CV wreck. i noticed they needed a buff when i was grinding the Bogatyr with it's 0 AA guns 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NWP] The_Shungite_Wizard Players 386 posts 17,506 battles Report post #16 Posted May 13, 2019 16 minutes ago, DFens_666 said: Had a Langley yesterday in T7MM because they faildivisioned. He was able to drop my Lyon Is there anything finer than CV anchoring to avoid higher tier CV's Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
anonym_2hneAFaIyP4T Players 606 posts Report post #17 Posted May 13, 2019 53 minutes ago, The_fun_police said: Is there anything finer than CV anchoring to avoid higher tier CV's FWIW, I don't condone faildivs, but given the issue with poor rewards/long grind on the lower tier CV's, this could actually just be someone trying to speed up the CV grind (damage to higher-tier ships give better XP reward = shorter grind). 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HussarKaz Players 316 posts 1,790 battles Report post #18 Posted May 13, 2019 On 5/4/2019 at 7:18 PM, LadyJess said: Tier 4 CV planes get shredded in tier 5 matches. BUFF the planes or just [edited]remove the horrible new CV wreck. Waaat? Playing Tier 4 CV is easy as F no mater of MM. I would like to see your face while playing Tier 6 CV in game with 11 Tier 8 ships... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[KAKE] Uglesett Players 2,804 posts 6,795 battles Report post #19 Posted May 13, 2019 10 hours ago, Saiyko said: Is that so? I don't really know how long the average player needs to play those tier fours to get to the next, but I'm gonna guess it's quite a few - like close to 40? Well, I spent 24 games on the Langley and 27 on the Hosho. But that's with premium time at least for a fair amount of games, usually at least +150% from camos and signals and a fair few +200% first win bonuses. That said, I don't think I'd buff them. They're not that bad against T5s if you just stay away from those until they've spread out a bit, and any buffs would make them stupidly powerful against T3 and 4. My impression so far is that T6 CVs have a lot more problems being uptiered than T4s. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HussarKaz Players 316 posts 1,790 battles Report post #20 Posted May 13, 2019 52 minutes ago, Uglesett said: My impression so far is that T6 CVs have a lot more problems being uptiered than T4s. true 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Culiacan_Mexico Players 2,844 posts 14,993 battles Report post #21 Posted May 13, 2019 Tier 4 CVs statistically, when compare with other Tier 4 ships, are middle of the pack in experience. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BBMM] BLUB__BLUB [BBMM] Players 8,818 posts 17,208 battles Report post #22 Posted May 13, 2019 11 hours ago, DFens_666 said: Had a Langley yesterday in T7MM because they faildivisioned. He was able to drop my Lyon ROFL. Yes it is possible to get a drop on anything, however why that div succeeded is beyond me. T4+T7 is not possible to hit 'START'... so... how did they do it? But... we often do T6CV+T7ships, because there is no T7 CV. Or T4CV+T5. EDIT: oh arrghh... wait... Lyon... not Lion. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CHEFT] DFens_666 Players 13,162 posts 11,029 battles Report post #23 Posted May 13, 2019 9 minutes ago, BLUB__BLUB said: ROFL. Yes it is possible to get a drop on anything, however why that div succeeded is beyond me. T4+T7 is not possible to hit 'START'... so... how did they do it? But... we often do T6CV+T7ships, because there is no T7 CV. Or T4CV+T5. EDIT: oh arrghh... wait... Lyon... not Lion. Yep, was Langley and König division. We had Hosho + some T5 BB forgot which one. Enemy CV was much better tho... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BBMM] BLUB__BLUB [BBMM] Players 8,818 posts 17,208 battles Report post #24 Posted May 13, 2019 Just now, DFens_666 said: Yep, was Langley and König division. We had Hosho + some T5 BB forgot which one. Enemy CV was much better tho... Oh we did that lots of times. T4 CV can be almost as good as T6, except damage output. T6 however is really not a T8... not by a long shot. They should bring back T3/5/7/9. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[N_R_A] Hopeless_Guppy Players 3,753 posts Report post #25 Posted May 13, 2019 Isn't this how it is meant to be, an introduction to the wonderful world of CV play, withe promise that things can only get better, 'cough cough'? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
