[KLLCV] Exustio Beta Tester 508 posts 5,264 battles Report post #1 Posted April 24, 2015 (edited) Hello ladies and gentlemen, Hope this comparison sheet will help u guys make better decisions which tree to pick, how to play, and possibly notice any imbalances within the cruiser classes. !!!!!Excel WoWs Comparison Sheet!!!!! The Destroyers and Battleships can be found in their Tabs on the Excel sheets! Hope this comparison helped u guys in picking which line to play, which ship to cry over, or which one to drool over and which one to rage over. I also hope these statistics might encourage some changes, as some are really needed. If nerfing is too much of a problem, then buffing their respective counterparts might be the solution. As i stated before, the comments are usually my opinion and yours might differ, and if i have made any mistakes in calculations/observations do point me in the right direction please I will most likely see u guys on the battlefield, and i will be glad to sink u to the bottom with a AP shell or 2 Exustio Edited December 11, 2015 by Exustio This post has been edited by a member of the Moderation Team, due to inappropriate content. An official notification has also been sent. 42 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Flavio1997 ∞ Alpha Tester 1,006 posts 11,990 battles Report post #2 Posted April 25, 2015 man...maybe you miss something with the st Louis: it has got 14, and not 8 guns, that is with the first hull. Now you understand why everyone say thar is op? it has got the hp pool of a bb and the dpm that is 2-3 times the one of the other boat Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[UNICS] Nechrom Beta Tester 4,870 posts 10,112 battles Report post #3 Posted April 25, 2015 man...maybe you miss something with the st Louis: it has got 14, and not 8 guns, that is with the first hull. Now you understand why everyone say thar is op? it has got the hp pool of a bb and the dpm that is 2-3 times the one of the other boat 8 is the max number of guns you can focus on one target. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bl4ckh0g Weekend Tester 1,668 posts 33 battles Report post #4 Posted April 25, 2015 (edited) I guess the St.Louise has so much health because she is so slow that she cannot run away from Kawachis, maybe? Edited April 25, 2015 by Bl4ckh0g Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[KLLCV] Exustio Beta Tester 508 posts 5,264 battles Report post #5 Posted April 25, 2015 man...maybe you miss something with the st Louis: it has got 14, and not 8 guns, that is with the first hull. Now you understand why everyone say thar is op? it has got the hp pool of a bb and the dpm that is 2-3 times the one of the other boat I will look at the broadside of the ship, as that is the angle at which a ship will produce the most amount of DPM. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GrumpyWorm Alpha Tester 3,274 posts 832 battles Report post #6 Posted April 25, 2015 Avoid red font please - it is reserved for WG staff and administration. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[KLLCV] Exustio Beta Tester 508 posts 5,264 battles Report post #7 Posted April 25, 2015 (edited) Avoid red font please - it is reserved for WG staff and administration. Blue it is! Edit: Done. Edited April 25, 2015 by Exustio Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CandyVanMan Beta Tester 40 posts 227 battles Report post #8 Posted April 25, 2015 I read somewhere that the Cleveland is balanced, because it's got bad armor. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BKC] DBaron Beta Tester 465 posts 2,926 battles Report post #9 Posted April 25, 2015 (edited) Murmansk has the same firing arc as the Omaha, the difference is, Omaha has 4x2 (not 3) launchers, Murmansk 2x3. Rudder shift time of the Omaha is 9.3 (not 7.5) Edit: Never mind - didnt check for the upgrades Edited April 25, 2015 by DBaron Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SICK] Exocet6951 Weekend Tester 5,151 posts 11,809 battles Report post #10 Posted April 25, 2015 TierX preview : Des Moines = killing machine Senjo = spontaneously combusting turret carrier with pointless torpedoes. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[KLLCV] Exustio Beta Tester 508 posts 5,264 battles Report post #11 Posted April 25, 2015 TierX preview : Des Moines = killing machine Senjo = spontaneously combusting turret carrier with pointless torpedoes. Something to look forward to i guess Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SICK] Exocet6951 Weekend Tester 5,151 posts 11,809 battles Report post #12 Posted April 25, 2015 The barbette bug really kills it, and the enormous spread on the 5 low range buttlauncher torps makes it hard to hit with more than 1 torp (on the rare occasion you get to use them). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[KLLCV] Exustio Beta Tester 508 posts 5,264 battles Report post #13 Posted April 25, 2015 Updated till T10, enjoy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bl4ckh0g Weekend Tester 1,668 posts 33 battles Report post #14 Posted April 25, 2015 thingies I noticed Des Moines has it's main DPS guns as AAA with more than 5 km range making her a more effective escort. A shell upgrade on the Baltimore is the Super-heavy shell with much more pen compared to prev shell. normal shell 8" pen from 9 km Super heavy shell 8" pen from 14 km Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[PRAVD] Orlunu Alpha Tester 1,427 posts 923 battles Report post #15 Posted April 25, 2015 I have more T4 cruisers than that, and I don't even have the Phoenix. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[KLLCV] Exustio Beta Tester 508 posts 5,264 battles Report post #16 Posted April 25, 2015 I have more T4 cruisers than that, and I don't even have the Phoenix. Think u mean the japanese one with 40 torps? Or the alpha one? Yea, dont have it, and cant see the stats in the tree's, so ur on ur own on that one Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[PRAVD] Orlunu Alpha Tester 1,427 posts 923 battles Report post #17 Posted April 25, 2015 Think u mean the japanese one with 40 torps? Or the alpha one? Yea, dont have it, and cant see the stats in the tree's, so ur on ur own on that one Both, I'll send you all their data to put in it tomorrow, 'cos you've only got half in so far. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-GOD-] McLeod [-GOD-] Weekend Tester 399 posts 7,184 battles Report post #18 Posted April 25, 2015 Well I knew the Katori had more health than the Erie but I had not noticed it was so much, it even has more than the Tiers 2 and 3 lol Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[KLLCV] Exustio Beta Tester 508 posts 5,264 battles Report post #19 Posted April 25, 2015 Both, I'll send you all their data to put in it tomorrow, 'cos you've only got half in so far. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DestoryerO_o Beta Tester 188 posts 384 battles Report post #20 Posted April 25, 2015 Well I knew the Katori had more health than the Erie but I had not noticed it was so much, it even has more than the Tiers 2 and 3 lol LOL Katori was sunk at Truk by 2 x BB, 2 x CA and 2 x DD. In the end USS Iowa (BB-61) closed in and fired 59 x 41cm shells and 129 x 13cm shells at Katori at close range. The ship was under this attack from USS Iowa for 13 minutes before sinking. If she has some kind of HP buff ingame, and, taken into account how slow and low armored ship she was, and what it took to sink her, she deserves it! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CandyVanMan Beta Tester 40 posts 227 battles Report post #21 Posted April 26, 2015 Oh my... I knew the Des Moines was better than the Senjo, but I had no just how much better o.O It makes the Cleveland seem balanced in comparison. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BLOBS] Spellfire40 Beta Tester 5,330 posts 13,776 battles Report post #22 Posted April 26, 2015 I wished you could set the Torpedo indicators in Gun view with IJN cruisers. By the Time i switched between guns and Torps and geting the ship to move a bit to the side to actually being able to fire with an Aoba a Cleaveland can land 3 to 5 full slavos. Torps are pretty much useless unless u can sneak on an distracted Tunelvisoning enemy. Overall the game favors the american ships more since its easyer just to shoot up your enemy than lanching torps and hope the enemy wont make course changes for 2 minutes. cya Spellfire40 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[PRAVD] Takeda92 Weekend Tester 3,802 posts 8,478 battles Report post #23 Posted April 26, 2015 (edited) Overall the game favors the american ships more since its easyer just to shoot up your enemy than lanching torps and hope the enemy wont make course changes for 2 minutes. I assume this is the company policy, same regarding the flags. Some people in our dear regions of east and west may not like Japanese ships be "that good," so Japanese ships were balance around being hard to play to give the feeling they are underpowered but at the same time good players would argue that you need to l2p. win-win situation for WG. It isn't necessarily bad, I like the challenge of playing the IJN line. However, some buffs here and there are needed. Edited April 26, 2015 by Takeda92 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[PRAVD] Orlunu Alpha Tester 1,427 posts 923 battles Report post #24 Posted April 26, 2015 I assume this is the company policy, same regarding the flags. Some people in our dear regions of east and west may not like Japanese ships be "that good," so Japanese ships were balance around being hard to play to give the feeling they are underpowered but at the same time good players would argue that you need to l2p. win-win situation for WG. It isn't necessarily bad, I like the challenge of playing the IJN line. However, some buffs here and there are needed. It's a fairly sensible choice, and one that I'm honestly not that upset about, but I do think that they got it slightly wrong with a couple. The pair of under-torpedoed DDs spring to mind. I'm also concerned about what will now happen when they try to make the Japanese more competitive. Giving Super Kitakami-sama a smokescreen like they've promised will render her borderline OP in certain hands. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[UNICS] Nechrom Beta Tester 4,870 posts 10,112 battles Report post #25 Posted April 26, 2015 I'm also concerned about what will now happen when they try to make the Japanese more competitive. Giving Super Kitakami-sama a smokescreen like they've promised will render her borderline OP in certain hands. Anyone with complaints, you can refer them to my avatar. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
