[FT13] Black_Prince42 Players 154 posts 1,793 battles Report post #1 Posted April 24, 2019 Right so I seen on the Facebook page recently that the Russians are getting another bloody battleship that never existed. As a brit, I'm already pissed as some of our BBs are missing weapons. But hey the Russians get this BS we should get HMS Incomparable, the G3 and N3 class as well. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[N_R_A] Hopeless_Guppy Players 3,753 posts Report post #2 Posted April 24, 2019 I guess you don't like BB's much then? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[POI--] dasCKD Quality Poster 2,376 posts 19,148 battles Report post #3 Posted April 24, 2019 Missing weapons? You DO realize that there are almost no historical ships in the game that runs with their full configuration, yes? 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-SBG-] ColonelPete Players 38,559 posts 19,178 battles Report post #4 Posted April 24, 2019 10 minutes ago, Black_Prince42 said: Right so I seen on the Facebook page recently that the Russians are getting another bloody battleship that never existed. As a brit, I'm already pissed as some of our BBs are missing weapons. But hey the Russians get this BS we should get HMS Incomparable, the G3 and N3 class as well. No worry, they will come. Same as Monarch, Lion and Conq. No need for artificial agitation. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Akula971 Beta Tester 1,059 posts 14,838 battles Report post #5 Posted April 24, 2019 You have to remember that WoWs is a Russian based company, whose biggest audience is their home market. It makes perfect commercial sense to pander to that market. If they don't make money to pay their staff and make profit, then there is no game. They release ship lines periodically for two reasons, finite resources, and to maintain interest in the game. The existing Imperial/Soviet/Russian lines have been out for a long time now, and anybody progressing those lines has probably gone as far as they want to. Hence the expansion. You can be certain that other nations ship whether real or blue prints will arrive at some point in the future. It is just a game, divorce the reality of naval history and an arcade game, and you'll not be so offended. Always remember that this game is a business, first and foremost, to make money for its owners and investors, not a free service for you. Only free cheese is in mouse trap. you can play those ship too. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[FT13] Black_Prince42 Players 154 posts 1,793 battles Report post #6 Posted April 24, 2019 Besides the point. Our battleships are missing their torpedo launchers. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BLITZ] WeGreedy Players 3,005 posts 15,010 battles Report post #7 Posted April 24, 2019 Just now, Black_Prince42 said: Besides the point. Our battleships are missing their torpedo launchers. So are many others. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SCUMM] herrjott [SCUMM] Players 943 posts 22,067 battles Report post #8 Posted April 24, 2019 Vor 3 Minuten, Black_Prince42 sagte: Besides the point. Our battleships are missing their torpedo launchers. Yes, it is a shame. I would like to see more BBs like Mutsu, who go broadside at 10+ km to launch their torpedos and collect some citadels while doing so... Spoiler 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-SBG-] ColonelPete Players 38,559 posts 19,178 battles Report post #9 Posted April 24, 2019 9 minutes ago, Black_Prince42 said: Besides the point. Our battleships are missing their torpedo launchers. All ships are missing their underwater torpedo launchers, even the russian ones... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Akula971 Beta Tester 1,059 posts 14,838 battles Report post #10 Posted April 24, 2019 6 minutes ago, Black_Prince42 said: Besides the point. Our battleships are missing their torpedo launchers. Yes and so many ships are missing their hydro acoustic equipment, their radar, torpedoes, barrel wear effects, and so many other features. Its not a simulation, it is just a game. The creators have to make the ships distinct, have a character, a feature or gimmick. At the same time create a balance. Why does this even need to be explained? I guess you are quite young. 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[ONE2] RAHJAILARI Players 3,160 posts 31,670 battles Report post #11 Posted April 24, 2019 Well, actually I do not mind the paper ships so much. After all, they are needed to fill-in the gaps in most tech trees (which is necessary for gamedesign/play purposes and stuff) BUT that said... I would prefer to at least see some priority given to actual ships and ship lines for major navies (Regia Marina still entirely missing and already releasing whole tech trees of fantasy ships?) also IJN Tone is nowhere to be seen, which is the biggest irritant to me personally, as Japanese navy is 1 of the 2 original navies in the game already years ago and she is undeniably one of the most interesting ships of the era. Oh weell, maybe some day as we live and breathe... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[COMFY] Benser33 WoWs Wiki Team, In AlfaTesters, Beta Tester, Quality Poster 2,314 posts 15,966 battles Report post #12 Posted April 24, 2019 I like the paper ships, i think it would be a shame if the nations who had the ingenuity to design ships but not the wartime or postwar resources/need to produce them couldn't have those vessels represented in the game. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
_TinPan_ ∞ Players 185 posts 29,704 battles Report post #13 Posted April 24, 2019 Well, in the end its all more or less fantasy in this game, even the looks are just more or less a resemblance to the truth. In the end its an arcade game which uses camouflaged pixel piles... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SCRUB] T0byJug Quality Poster 5,358 posts 25,539 battles Report post #14 Posted April 24, 2019 1 hour ago, Black_Prince42 said: Besides the point. Our battleships are missing their torpedo launchers. Just about every nation had Torpedo tubes on there BBs and almost all removed them as they were useless... Look at any BB in game bellow tier 6 if not 7 they all had Torpedo Tubes at some point in there life. If you want to take issue with RN BB's Spend more time on fact that Warspite amazing turning ship in game, for most of her life had issues with her rudders and turning. Shortest range Guns at tier VI with the longest range ship on ship recorded hit. Hoods rocket AAA.. proved more than useless, in game very effective. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
_Ezio_ Beta Tester 3,371 posts 6,485 battles Report post #15 Posted April 24, 2019 1 hour ago, Black_Prince42 said: Besides the point. Our battleships are missing their torpedo launchers. yea those extreamly deadly and effective underwater torpedotubes which you could not even use 95% of the time due to some technical complication or another. And that is after the fact that you almost never would be able tu use them.... And Most britsih BB lost their underwater torpedotubes when they where refitted, because they are huge citadel areas that are not sufficiently armored. Imagine a Shell landing right besides the tubes and the spare torpedos. bye Nelsone nose and probably A turret. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[KLUNJ] bushwacker001 [KLUNJ] Players 2,870 posts Report post #16 Posted April 24, 2019 1 hour ago, Black_Prince42 said: Right so I seen on the Facebook page recently that the Russians are getting another bloody battleship that never existed. As a brit, I'm already pissed as some of our BBs are missing weapons. But hey the Russians get this BS we should get HMS Incomparable, the G3 and N3 class as well. It's a game ffs Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SCRUB] T0byJug Quality Poster 5,358 posts 25,539 battles Report post #17 Posted April 24, 2019 13 minutes ago, _Ezio_ said: yea those extreamly deadly and effective underwater torpedotubes which you could not even use 95% of the time due to some technical complication or another. And that is after the fact that you almost never would be able tu use them.... And Most britsih BB lost their underwater torpedotubes when they where refitted, because they are huge citadel areas that are not sufficiently armored. Imagine a Shell landing right besides the tubes and the spare torpedos. bye Nelsone nose and probably A turret. I looked this up for a previeas thread.. Non directional torpedo tubes on SURFACE ships have been successful 2 times.(to what i can find).. SMS Emden torpedoing an anchored for and aft Russian Cruiser and HMS Rodney torpedoing the Bismark while she was dead in the water (or maybe cruising at 5 knots accounts differ) and scored 1 hit in 8 launches 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CptBarney Players 8,127 posts 245 battles Report post #18 Posted April 24, 2019 Historical accuracy is boring as hell and would only limit the amount of ships you could play as well as the nations avalaible, At least with the creative freedom that a game like this brings means you can fill up tech trees even if they are made up. Also who cares, most historical ships don't even have their full historical configuration. That and some Battlecruisers are either designated as BB's or CA's. As long as they don't destroy the balance, make half the ships obsolete or irrelevant and offer something unique to the table im fine with fanatasy ships. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[5ALTY] Bad_Players_Are_Toxic Players 247 posts 12,953 battles Report post #19 Posted April 24, 2019 I just had a mini orgasm thinking of all the typical BB's going broadside to launch torps Then i realised loads of them would still be doing it from 20km range and behind teammates Then i realised half of them would be on my team Yea, no... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[ATRA] Srle_Vigilante Weekend Tester 1,233 posts 10,342 battles Report post #20 Posted April 24, 2019 While it's true that the Brits are the most criminally undervalued nation in this game atm, its not like its the only nation that has holes in it. Russians being the prime example, as the one of the bigger nations missing a BB line, considering the Russian playerbase. Not that i agree with Russian literal imagination battleships, but throw the Russians a bone... That said there are nations in a even worse state then Brits... Italians and Yugoslavs(). That also being said i lost my train of though and i have no clue how to finish this post so i'm just going to leave it here.... 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CptBarney Players 8,127 posts 245 battles Report post #21 Posted April 24, 2019 1 minute ago, Srle_Vigilante said: While it's true that the Brits are the most criminally undervalued nation in this game atm, its not like its the only nation that has holes in it. Russians being the prime example, as the one of the bigger nations missing a BB line, considering the Russian playerbase. Not that i agree with Russian literal imagination battleships, but throw the Russians a bone... That said there are nations in a even worse state then Brits... Italians and Yugoslavs(). That also being said i lost my train of though and i have no clue how to finish this post so i'm just going to leave it here.... Hmm i wonder what kind of ships and gimmicks the yugoslavs would have? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[ATRA] Srle_Vigilante Weekend Tester 1,233 posts 10,342 battles Report post #22 Posted April 24, 2019 Just now, CptBarney said: Hmm i wonder what kind of ships and gimmicks the yugoslavs would have? Starting a riot on board, that lasts for 2 minutes and depending on which ethnic minority wins, the ship gets a certain bonus depending on the minority that has taken over. Jk. I don't know actually... Since DDs are the only thing i can imagine it would be cool to have... idk ahhh Sneaky and Gunboat? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-5D-] Hannibalurg Beta Tester 950 posts Report post #23 Posted April 24, 2019 2 hours ago, Black_Prince42 said: Right so I seen on the Facebook page recently that the Russians are getting another bloody battleship that never existed. As a brit, I'm already pissed as some of our BBs are missing weapons. But hey the Russians get this BS we should get HMS Incomparable, the G3 and N3 class as well. No, we dont need more RN fire starters. RU fantasy BBs is better than more RN ships. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Beaker71 Players 425 posts 15,235 battles Report post #24 Posted April 24, 2019 34 minutes ago, CptBarney said: As long as they don't destroy the balance, make half the ships obsolete or irrelevant As long as they don't do that again you mean Would we be getting so many fantasy ships in a line if it was any other country than Russia... nope Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[THESO] SV_Kompresor Beta Tester, Players, In AlfaTesters 5,868 posts Report post #25 Posted April 24, 2019 Then you should be pissed that you have fantasy BBs in your beloved UK tech tree aswell right? Why not just delete them and let the tree end at tier 7....Realism sucks, just look at what's happening with WT's ships. They've sacrified gameplay for the sake of realism. Also, you want more torpedoes on battleships? How about no...Hell, let's add tomahawks on the iowa...I mean it did have them after all. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
