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HMS Audacious - carpet bombers

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So today I found out that it might actually be better to use the T9 planes on the Audacious. Why you ask? Well take a look at this:

 

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As you can see the elipse is much smaller than the TX. You are also loosing only about 1.3K hp per squadron (139 per plane), 9 knots of cruising speed and 12 knots of top speed, which can arguably be a downside or an advantage, since slower planes = more agility and obviously you loose 2 bombs per plane.

 

However you gain 8 seconds of restoration time, much tighter drop pattern and less "fall time" for the bombs. 

 

I see that the "clear and incremental upgrades" that were the reason to remove odd tier CVs are so "clear and incremental" as intended... Also funnily enough you can't find the dispersion elipse parameters anywhere in the client.

 

What do you think? TX or T9?

 

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interesting find. i have to admit, the tx bombers seem very inaccurate. even through the circle bombs miss :) its amazing. might give t9 another try see if the drops tighten up. 

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I find enemy ships wildly evade attacks anyway making a prefect lineup for a full in-lenght bombing a rarity. So i will probably not use the lower tier ones.

 

I wonder how many players traded in Damage Control Module 2  for Stearing Gears module, which goes for torpedoing too.....

 

When you get bombed and torpedoed enough to realize aircraft damage you could be evading is higher then 15 % faster extinguising fires or 15 % faster stop floodings you probably will change that module i guess. .....

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Still bombs will fall out of the green area, so i don't think the size of the green reticle is accurate anywho. But intresting find. +1

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So the t9's have a length of 4.3 and the T10s have 5.4? 

 

4.3= 18.49

 

5.42 = 29.16.  

 

As the shape of the bombing reticule appears to be the same, I assume they are, so the T10 has a larger bombing radius to the amount: (29.16/18.49) -1 = 58%

 

The t10 has 58% more area to hit, however it has 100% more damage in the area, so it is still more efficient to pick the t10s. This is because the T10s are still doing 63% of their damage in the same circle size of the t9s, leading to an 18% increase in damage in the t9 damage reticule with additional damage outside of it.  

 

 

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45 minutes ago, black_falcon120 said:

So the t9's have a length of 4.3 and the T10s have 5.4? 

 

4.3= 18.49

 

the formula is Area = Pi * A * B 
 where A and B are half axis

thus it would need to be  4.3/2 *Pi* whatever b is

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5 hours ago, Horin728 said:

obviously you loose 2 bombs per plane.

and you think that is a reason to give up the tier ten ones? :Smile_amazed:

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2 ore fa, Beastofwar ha scritto:

 

I wonder how many players traded in Damage Control Module 2  for Stearing Gears module, which goes for torpedoing too.....

 

When you get bombed and torpedoed enough to realize aircraft damage you could be evading is higher then 15 % faster extinguising fires or 15 % faster stop floodings you probably will change that module i guess. .....

 

Well, tier 9-10 BBs have usually 900-950mm of turning circle, so she SGM has little impact in increasing their agility: having 13,5 sec rudder shift times instead of 17sec doesn’t change the fact that you are driving a bathtub... 

There are lots of tests made by LittleWhiteMouse on the NA forum regarding that upgrade on battleships.

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27 minutes ago, Gojuadorai said:

 

the formula is Area = Pi * A * B 
 where A and B are half axis

thus it would need to be  4.3/2 *Pi* whatever b is

Yeah, but the pis cancel out, so I ignored them to make the maths easier.

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12 hours ago, black_falcon120 said:

Yeah, but the pis cancel out, so I ignored them to make the maths easier.

 i took more of an issue in  the fact you ² it thereby A=B which it  is not 
 assuming B1  is roughly same a B2  they also cancel out so the  calc would be 

5.4/4.3 =1.256 => 25.6% larger area and not 50+%  which is about the factor two!

so the real value will ly inbetween but is also sgnificantly depending on difference in B....

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I'm not quite sure where you've got "5.4" and "4.3", if you refer to the OP screenshots, those numbers are timers, how long till planes exit their attack run:Smile_smile:

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Damn get your maths straight. I want to decide based on numbers not visuals! And I am the first to admit that maths is not my strongest card. :cap_book:

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1 hour ago, _Ezio_ said:

Damn get your maths straight. I want to decide based on numbers not visuals! And I am the first to admit that maths is not my strongest card. :cap_book:

 

as soon as someone can get me the values  (width and length) its easy...
dont have the time to look through all sites if they list them somewhere

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