[-AP-] thiextar Players 3,503 posts 9,933 battles Report post #1 Posted April 20, 2019 So the latest publication on the warships devblog reveals that the next ranked season will be tier 10, and we will have carriers in it... I really do not believe that carriers fits in a 7vs7 competitive format at all, they will be absolutely dominating, and they will stop any form of active play. Anyways, i was looking forward to the new ranked season, but if carriers are gonna be in it, im out. What are you guys opinions of this? 21 1 1 9 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NWP] 159Hunter Players 4,528 posts Report post #2 Posted April 20, 2019 We can have opinions, but it was WG's goal to bring them into ranked and CW. Not doing so would be admitting their magical rework failed... 12 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CHEFT] DFens_666 Players 13,162 posts 11,029 battles Report post #3 Posted April 20, 2019 As @159Hunter said: They will put them into all gamemodes... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-AP-] thiextar Players 3,503 posts 9,933 battles Report post #4 Posted April 20, 2019 4 minutes ago, DFens_666 said: As @159Hunter said: They will put them into all gamemodes... Yeah but do you honestly think that carriers will fit well in ranked? There will be no active play, just cruisers and battleships blobbing it out... I dont see any way we are going to get an enjoyable meta in 7v7 when carriers are present.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CHEFT] DFens_666 Players 13,162 posts 11,029 battles Report post #5 Posted April 20, 2019 Just now, thiextar said: Yeah but do you honestly think that carriers will fit well in ranked? Well... not really (alltho we used to have CVs in ranked before aswell). TX CVs is max 1 per side, and thats 12vs12. So if we have 7vs7, we shouldnt have a CV at all, otherwise it would be almost equal to having 2CVs in a 12vs12 battles. With 2CVs, you have 1 CV for 5 surface ships in randoms, in Ranked you have 1 CV for 6 surface ships... They basicly admitted the former is not good, because they change it, or atleast gonna limit the 4 CV games on TX. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NWP] 159Hunter Players 4,528 posts Report post #6 Posted April 20, 2019 12 minutes ago, thiextar said: Yeah but do you honestly think that carriers will fit well in ranked? There will be no active play, just cruisers and battleships blobbing it out... I dont see any way we are going to get an enjoyable meta in 7v7 when carriers are present.... I hear you, you're barking up the wrong tree and asking the wrong question. But by all means, we'll call in @MrConway and ask him what WG hopes CVs should bring to ranked games. What would you guys consider as a succesful introduction into ranked? 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[YJKG] Tirande Players 488 posts 26,237 battles Report post #7 Posted April 20, 2019 23 minutes ago, 159Hunter said: We can have opinions, but it was WG's goal to bring them into ranked and CW. Not doing so would be admitting their magical rework failed... I think we can all agree that the rework is a pile of smoldering hot fecal matter. Let's see how CVs perform in ranked first; if they 'overperform' they'll take another sledgehammer and utterly trash CVs to the point where they become unplayable garbage. (Which will definitely bring in more players to the CV side WG, good job nerfing them into the ground at EVERY. SINGLE. OPPORTUNITY!) Which'll lead to a sharp decline to CV players and then to CVs being moved to pve only and then all the anti-CV radicals will be happy I guess? Oh wait they'll prolly complain about CVs 'killstealing' in PvE next until CVs are removed from anything but portslot holders. 1 minute ago, DFens_666 said: Well... not really (alltho we used to have CVs in ranked before aswell). TX CVs is max 1 per side, and thats 12vs12. So if we have 7vs7, we shouldnt have a CV at all, otherwise it would be almost equal to having 2CVs in a 12vs12 battles. With 2CVs, you have 1 CV for 5 surface ships in randoms, in Ranked you have 1 CV for 6 surface ships... They basicly admitted the former is not good, because they change it, or atleast gonna limit the 4 CV games on TX. They'll just use the 'overperformance' data as an excuse to nerf CVs further into the ground: 2 minutes ago, 159Hunter said: I hear you, you're barking up the wrong tree and asking the wrong question. But by all means, we'll call in @MrConway and ask him what WG hopes CVs should bring to ranked games. What would you guys consider as a succesful introduction into ranked? My guess is that they want a glorified spotting utensil since they can't provide air cover anymore since they removed that with the glorious RTS CV masterrace. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[EUR] lossi_2018 Players 3,122 posts Report post #8 Posted April 20, 2019 43 minutes ago, thiextar said: So the latest publication on the warships devblog reveals that the next ranked season will be tier 10, and we will have carriers in it... I really do not believe that carriers fits in a 7vs7 competitive format at all, they will be absolutely dominating, and they will stop any form of active play. Anyways, i was looking forward to the new ranked season, but if carriers are gonna be in it, im out. What are you guys opinions of this? t10? sheet Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[HAKUY] Yosha_AtaIante Players 8,032 posts 19,168 battles Report post #9 Posted April 20, 2019 ENOUGH! ☆☆☆☆☆☆☆!! You got another CV nerf,how many more will it be? ♡ I want them in ranked ☆ 3 1 7 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NWP] Bear__Necessities Players 5,291 posts 15,376 battles Report post #10 Posted April 20, 2019 5 minutes ago, L0V3_and_PE4CE said: ENOUGH! ☆☆☆☆☆☆☆!! You got another CV nerf,how many more will it be? ♡ I want them in ranked ☆ It’s not a nerf. It’s a balance... well attempt at balance... not that I think WG know what balance means... *insert hearts and stars etc :p* 2 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[XTREM] Miragetank90 Players 2,626 posts 18,696 battles Report post #11 Posted April 20, 2019 14 minutes ago, L0V3_and_PE4CE said: ENOUGH! ☆☆☆☆☆☆☆!! You got another CV nerf,how many more will it be? ♡ I want them in ranked ☆ This exhibits about as much assertiveness as a little pink possum that vomits rainbows 9 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TTTX] Tyrendian89 [TTTX] Players 4,608 posts 8,139 battles Report post #12 Posted April 20, 2019 23 minutes ago, lossi_2018 said: t10? sheet not just T10, but there will also be Rentals (akin to the CB rentals around now), so everyone and their mum can participate... soooo that's gonna be fun... guess it's that time of year again where I get to be smug as fug that I never cared much about Ranked, while everyone else in the clan curses and wails... 3 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[HOO] DreadArchangel Weekend Tester 1,004 posts Report post #13 Posted April 20, 2019 Here we go again..... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[YJKG] Tirande Players 488 posts 26,237 battles Report post #14 Posted April 20, 2019 7 minutes ago, Bear_Necessities said: It’s not a nerf. It’s a balance... well attempt at balance... not that I think WG know what balance means... *insert hearts and stars etc :p* How is beating a half-assed rework over the head with a sledgehammer not a nerf? :) Just because they can't find the right balance doesn't mean the latest chances aren't just flat out nerfs on top of previous overzealous nerfs. I get that their ideal situation is that CVs are nothing but glorified spotting planes that have no damage potential or ability to help their team but that doesn't make for compelling gameplay. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[XTREM] Miragetank90 Players 2,626 posts 18,696 battles Report post #15 Posted April 20, 2019 3 minutes ago, Tyrendian89 said: guess it's that time of year again where I get to be smug as fug that I never cared much about Ranked, while everyone else in the clan curses and wails... Good to know I'm not the only one Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NWP] Bear__Necessities Players 5,291 posts 15,376 battles Report post #16 Posted April 20, 2019 4 minutes ago, Tirande said: How is beating a half-assed rework over the head with a sledgehammer not a nerf? :) Just because they can't find the right balance doesn't mean the latest chances aren't just flat out nerfs on top of previous overzealous nerfs. I get that their ideal situation is that CVs are nothing but glorified spotting planes that have no damage potential or ability to help their team but that doesn't make for compelling gameplay. It’s the equivalent of reloading time that all other classes have. Also will probably not hamper them that much either, if at all. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[YJKG] Tirande Players 488 posts 26,237 battles Report post #17 Posted April 20, 2019 3 minutes ago, Bear_Necessities said: It’s the equivalent of reloading time that all other classes have. Also will probably not hamper them that much either, if at all. It's the fact that they're piling it on top of everything else that they've nerfed that bothers me. But then again, it gives me a valid excuse to go afk for the first 2-5 minutes of the game; I mean the overlord tells me I am not allowed to play the game for the first X minutes of the game anyway, so why would I bother to be at my PC or have the game in a non-minimized state for that time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[B0TS] ChatBanForSayingTruth Players 312 posts 15,158 battles Report post #18 Posted April 20, 2019 Unless they will put enormous amount of steel as a reward on each rank my nerve cells are more valuable than bunch of signals and 1000 steel for rank 1. Randoms feels much less frustrating than ranked and even there i do get chat banned. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CHEFT] DFens_666 Players 13,162 posts 11,029 battles Report post #19 Posted April 20, 2019 3 minutes ago, Tirande said: But then again, it gives me a valid excuse to go afk for the first 2-5 minutes of the game; I mean the overlord tells me I am not allowed to play the game for the first X minutes of the game anyway, so why would I bother to be at my PC or have the game in a non-minimized state for that time. You can play the game as much as any other class: Get into a position. Which ofc means for a CV, hide behind an island probably. Other ships cant do anything either besides go into a position they want to. BBs are the only one which can get into action because they have the range to do so. But they need someone to spot for them, which basicly is a CV right now. CV cant spot from the get go -> BB cant get into action either. Gives more chances for DDs/CAs to get into a position where they can do something aswell. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[MORIA] quickr Players 1,953 posts 25,232 battles Report post #20 Posted April 20, 2019 Mark my words... The day they put CVs into clan battles is the day this game dies. WG keeps shitting on 5% of committed, dedicated and competitive players and keeps catering to reds and potatoes, to those that make 95% of playerbase. In business sense that's a good call. But long term, it's a suicide. 10 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[PEZ] Yedwy Players 11,301 posts 39,586 battles Report post #21 Posted April 20, 2019 30 minutes ago, Tyrendian89 said: guess it's that time of year again where I get to be smug as fug that I never cared much about Ranked, while everyone else in the clan curses and wails... This... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[YJKG] Tirande Players 488 posts 26,237 battles Report post #22 Posted April 20, 2019 1 minute ago, DFens_666 said: You can play the game as much as any other class: Get into a position. Which ofc means for a CV, hide behind an island probably. Other ships cant do anything either besides go into a position they want to. BBs are the only one which can get into action because they have the range to do so. But they need someone to spot for them, which basicly is a CV right now. CV cant spot from the get go -> BB cant get into action either. Gives more chances for DDs/CAs to get into a position where they can do something aswell. Or you know... I could not do any of that and do something more enjoyable while I wait for the overlords to allow me to play the game; there's a difference in being unable to fire your guns right away and being unable to effectively move since they degenned CV to being only able to control planes. Not being able to launch them is simular to being able to do nothing relevant at all. Revert to RTS CV or bust at this point cuz the nerfocaust is making me resent WG more and more with every single nerf they barf out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NWP] 159Hunter Players 4,528 posts Report post #23 Posted April 20, 2019 1 hour ago, Bear_Necessities said: It’s not a nerf. It’s a balance... well attempt at balance... not that I think WG know what balance means... *insert hearts and stars etc :p* They do you know. They even have a ship called Balansgrad or sumthing 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NIKE] Xevious_Red Beta Tester 3,412 posts 7,888 battles Report post #24 Posted April 20, 2019 1 hour ago, Tyrendian89 said: not just T10, but there will also be Rentals (akin to the CB rentals around now), so everyone and their mum can participate... Prep your anus for..... Rental CV. Now you too can have the joy of having someone whos not only never played tier X but also someone who has never played the class before. 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[PEZ] Yedwy Players 11,301 posts 39,586 battles Report post #25 Posted April 20, 2019 And now featuring on mister Murphy show in the red corner we give you - El2aZeR Ulcer guarnteed Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
