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At this point I kinda consider myself a bit of a masochist since for some reason i continue to play. 

 

The entire spotting issue as well as the fact that CVs can harass you pretty much with impunity is infuriating at times. 

 

And hey, how had the genius Idea to limit fires on CVs to 5sec ? What a [edited]joke. 

 

pull your heads out of your butts and adress this already instead of milking the cow and pushing out premium CVs. 

 

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2 minutes ago, bloodynicknames said:

At this point I kinda consider myself a bit of a masochist since for some reason i continue to play. 

 

The entire spotting issue as well as the fact that CVs can harass you pretty much with impunity is infuriating at times. 

 

And hey, how had the genius Idea to limit fires on CVs to 5sec ? What a [edited]joke. 

 

pull your heads out of your butts and adress this already instead of milking the cow and pushing out premium CVs. 

 

They already did.

Planes must be really close to spot a DD. And if you try to evade planes, there is a good chance they will not spot you. One can also move back to an AA ship when planes come in your direction.

 

Just had a game in my Missouri with a Minsk 6km from me. He was barely out of my AA range. Enemy planes got spotted. What did the Minsk do? Sail in a straight line...

He did not try to evade. He did not turn towards me. Nothing. Just sail straght. That is not the way to play a DD....

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There is a lot of Tier 10 DD`s which either dont use smoke, use smoke at the wrong moment, dont want to switch off AA guns or like to play lone Wulf.

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6 minutes ago, ColonelPete said:

They already did.

Planes must be really close to spot a DD. And if you try to evade planes, there is a good chance they will not spot you. One can also move back to an AA ship when planes come in your direction.

Oh please. This is what fighters are for.

 

Normally you - as the CV - always have quite a good idea where the DD is. You fly towards him, and pop a fighter at the direction where he's going to when he's spotted (unless he's actually smart (yea sure) and pops smoke immediately). Turn your strike group and let the fun and engaging begin.

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Do you prefer the previous CV iteration? Being perma spotted without the CV losing planes? Being cross torped at the start of the match? Just curious :) 

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Gerade eben, Freyr_90 sagte:

Do you prefer the previous CV iteration? Being perma spotted without the CV losing planes? Being cross torped at the start of the match? Just curious :) 

The argument is that crossdrops can be dodged if skilled (LOL) ☆

 

Or that there were less CV therefore endureable. ♡

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4 minutes ago, Saiyko said:

Oh please. This is what fighters are for.

 

Normally you - as the CV - always have quite a good idea where the DD is. You fly towards him, and pop a fighter at the direction where he's going to when he's spotted (unless he's actually smart (yea sure) and pops smoke immediately). Turn your strike group and let the fun and engaging begin.

You have to spot him first...

You have to get him out of the AA range of teammates...

 

I already explained what many DD players do wrong.

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Just now, ColonelPete said:

You have to spot him first...

This isn't any problem whatsoever for any decent CV player.

 

Just now, ColonelPete said:

You have to get him out of the AA range of teammates...

If he is within AA range of his teammates, he's no threat, so why would I bother with him?

 

1 minute ago, ColonelPete said:

I already explained what many DD players do wrong.

I know what they are doing wrong - they are picking the wrong class to play.

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I experience the 4 CV per match situation as a continueous duckrape to DD as well.

 

Because i can do little else start match but scout enemy fleet heading and search&destroy DD, i do it too ofcourse.

 

But the situation is not acceptable for DD. Their reaction is however nerf, nerf, nerf and that is not the way. WG should be adressing the MM as that is the cause of all the problems with duckraping DD.  Now there are 2 CV attacking often a single DD in a match. A healthier ( and normal )  situation would be a single CV attacking one of the 3 DD in a match,

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13 minutes ago, Saiyko said:

This isn't any problem whatsoever for any decent CV player.

That must be a rare breed indeed, because my DD manage to do that regularly...

14 minutes ago, Saiyko said:

If he is within AA range of his teammates, he's no threat, so why would I bother with him?

That is your opinion. Caps, torps and spotters outside smoke say something different.

16 minutes ago, Saiyko said:

I know what they are doing wrong - they are picking the wrong class to play.

Then I wonder why DD still get focused, if they are no threat...

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48 minutes ago, Freyr_90 said:

Do you prefer the previous CV iteration? Being perma spotted without the CV losing planes? Being cross torped at the start of the match? Just curious :) 

 

Yes. And CVs did lose planes, plus the friendly CV had fighters too to shoo the planes away. There is no deterrent to permaspotting in the present CV rework, which is actually my main gripe with it.

It is argued that DDs have so small spotting range and DDs should smoke up instantly to not get damanged. Those arn't the true issues at all.

CVs simply wait out the smoke, and then what? (yes good CVs do actually do that)

 

At least in the previous rework, you had counterplay options. And getting crosstorped depends on the DD. Grozovoi getting crosstorped by what CV exactly? Don't make me laugh.

 

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35 minutes ago, bloodynicknames said:

continue to play. 

Well i actually solved this problem : now i play olny CVs. And my karma score = 0. I think DDs and BBs report me all the time, haha. Damn i m goood!

A few tips if you keep playin DDs. Just type some simple magic words in chat like: "SHOO FLY" and "GET AWAY FROM ME U CREEP". Works for me!

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4 minutes ago, ColonelPete said:

Then I wonder why DD still get focused, if they are no threat...

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I said they are no threat if they are with the rest of their team. They get focused because they potentially are a threat - and are a good target to go after first since they are no threat to a CVs planes - and despite what memers here and on reddit will tell you, that also counts for so-called "AA-DDs" like groz, kidd, haru and what have you.

 

3 minutes ago, ColonelPete said:

That must be a rare breed indeed, because my DD manage to do that regularly...

decent players in general are rare, yes. That's not anything news.

 

And this is honestly not an attempt to statshame you or anything: but looking at your DD results, for the last 21 days they aren't all that glorious (some single results, like that shima game, not withstanding), and you probably didn't have CVs in all of them, let alone good CVs.

 

 

 

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54 minutes ago, L0V3_and_PE4CE said:

The argument is that crossdrops can be dodged if skilled (LOL) ☆

 

Or that there were less CV therefore endureable. ♡

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As a DD player I find the biggest problem is late game when the amount of ships (especially DDs) is reduced and the teams are scattered. If a CV spots you then you're toast; you'll be focused to death with little or no counter play. It's frustrating to say the least. 

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19 minutes ago, Saiyko said:

 

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I said they are no threat if they are with the rest of their team. They get focused because they potentially are a threat - and are a good target to go after first since they are no threat to a CVs planes - and despite what memers here and on reddit will tell you, that also counts for so-called "AA-DDs" like groz, kidd, haru and what have you.

You said they were the wrong class. That was my answer...

20 minutes ago, Saiyko said:

decent players in general are rare, yes. That's not anything news.

 

And this is honestly not an attempt to statshame you or anything: but looking at your DD results, for the last 21 days they aren't all that glorious (some single results, like that shima game, not withstanding), and you probably didn't have CVs in all of them, let alone good CVs.

Then were is the trouble dealing with CV, when the decent CV are rare?

And yes, we have the new CV longer than 21 days.

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29 minutes ago, ColonelPete said:

You said they were the wrong class. That was my answer...

Then were is the trouble dealing with CV, when the decent CV are rare?

And yes, we have the new CV longer than 21 days.

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while the second picture might kinda make your point - you really have no shame with that first one? triple tier 8 div, and the carrier is tier 6. congrats.

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36 minutes ago, Lord0 said:

As a DD player I find the biggest problem is late game when the amount of ships (especially DDs) is reduced and the teams are scattered. If a CV spots you then you're toast; you'll be focused to death with little or no counter play. It's frustrating to say the least. 

And this is my other gripe

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1 minute ago, Saiyko said:

while the second picture might kinda make your point - you really have no shame with that first one? triple tier 8 div, and the carrier is tier 6. congrats.

That is the way MM works. Not all games are lonely Tier VIII DD vs 2 Tier X CV.

Yes, your DD can outtier enemy CV. Who would have guessed that?

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1 hour ago, Freyr_90 said:

Do you prefer the previous CV iteration? Being perma spotted without the CV losing planes? Being cross torped at the start of the match? Just curious :) 

Frankly now it is much worse.

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Hello there,

 

It would be nice before opening a brand new topic to check if something similar already exist, which in this case answer is yes:



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