kapnobathrac Players 506 posts Report post #1 Posted April 7, 2019 no it isnt regardless if you are in implacable or audacious,planes get destroyed quickly most of the times the speed boost doesnt work when you recharge your boost which means you die carpet bombing sucks rocketsplanes are the laughing stock of the internet also something is wrong with the AA system in tier X. Not only that but some ships have such a defense system that it makes you think your planes drop nukes and they quickly have to fend off the planes to survive when in fact they hit like a tier 8 cruiser 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[HOOKS] kingzy2013 Players 228 posts 6,355 battles Report post #2 Posted April 7, 2019 imo i have to admit, rockets on implacable are absolutely trash - even on dds u'll chip them for like 1k if ur lucky. carpet bombing seems meh - alright i suppose. nothing special, i'd still rather have midway bombs tbh. they could use a pen adjustment sure, fires. but low alpha. torps are alright i suppose. again nothing special. entire thing feels bland to me. but yes, the boost is dodgy as hell, and the animation time on carpet bombing is aids! being stuck in a single direction for 7 seconds after a drop = bye bye squad. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[PEZ] Yedwy Players 11,301 posts 39,586 battles Report post #3 Posted April 7, 2019 https://wows-numbers.com/ship/4074747856,Audacious/ Clearly Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[HOOKS] kingzy2013 Players 228 posts 6,355 battles Report post #4 Posted April 7, 2019 1 hour ago, Yedwy said: https://wows-numbers.com/ship/4074747856,Audacious/ Clearly tbh at this point only people with it would have ether grinded hard or free-exped it. Better than average CV players. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cambera_1 Players 1,018 posts 23,940 battles Report post #5 Posted April 7, 2019 1 hour ago, Yedwy said: https://wows-numbers.com/ship/4074747856,Audacious/ Clearly Obviously a statistical anomaly due to insufficient games Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
_Ezio_ Beta Tester 3,371 posts 6,485 battles Report post #6 Posted April 7, 2019 2 hours ago, Yedwy said: https://wows-numbers.com/ship/4074747856,Audacious/ Clearly 7k matches and mostly played by ppl who know what they are doing... post rework haku and midway had 150k avg dmg nad only one of the two got hard nerfs... now they sit at 81k and 75k avg dmg... Audacious is a chore to play. The Tb are very good. Not damagewise or because of good spee. no they are [edited]easy to aim. You can fully aim in and then you proceed to aim at your target. Not losing any spread while manouvering is like the wet dream of any Haku player and the least needed to make Midway TB useable. Her Rokets are really good on CL, DD and T8 CV. Everything else... well 30rokets with 20% firechance will almost certainly start a fire. The carpedbombing is stupid. First it is not historical for a reason, the same reason we see ingame. Bombs lack penetration when not dropped from high up (Tall bBoy comes to mid) and they are hard to aim. The fact that we have to wait 7s untill we get any meaningful control over our planes is just stupid. imagine not being forced to follow your Shells after everyshot you take, untill they hit your target. Harugumo would certainly be the worst DD to ever exist in the game. Also there seems to be a number of bugs in the current version. Bombs drop slower on all carriers than before, midway DB are capped at 140kn when diving (previous was 189kn and basespeed is 145kn or so) which seriously nerfs the survivability and general capabilities of the Db (Not that they do not deserve a nerf but nerfing them without telling is just unacceptable. So lets call it a bug.) Also planes tend to get stuck in midair. Sometimes they despawn and you get your planes back but sometimes they just stay in the air (hitable by AA) and are lost, as there is now way to recover them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[N-L-L] peoplescavalry Players 531 posts 13,011 battles Report post #7 Posted April 7, 2019 Try it with a Kaga! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TORAZ] El2aZeR Beta Tester 15,786 posts 26,801 battles Report post #8 Posted April 7, 2019 Audacious has the most durable and fastest strike planes of her tier. If you fail to retain planes with Audacious you will fail even harder with any other T10 CV. Git gud. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kapnobathrac Players 506 posts Report post #9 Posted April 7, 2019 17 minutes ago, El2aZeR said: Audacious has the most durable and fastest strike planes of her tier. If you fail to retain planes with Audacious you will fail even harder with any other T10 CV. Git gud. Beached benson inside my bomb reticle all bombs land around him. And retain planes to do what ? miss ? and is it normal for your planes to be locked when leaving the aircraft ? Enemy DD a few KMs away and i end up passing by him when i wanted to defend the aircraft due to the aiming reticle not loading untill i was on top of him Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Panocek Players 13,176 posts 13,617 battles Report post #10 Posted April 7, 2019 18 minutes ago, El2aZeR said: Audacious has the most durable and fastest strike planes of her tier. If you fail to retain planes with Audacious you will fail even harder with any other T10 CV. Git gud. Umm, Hakuryu would have a word with you. Also durability is countered by plane amount (base values) TB: Autistic: 9x2400=21600hp, 199kts top speed Hakuku: 12*1810=21720hp, 203kts top speed DB: 9x2440=21960hp, 199kts top speed 12*1800=21600hp, 212kts top speed 12 sized squad usually can soak up single Catapult (4 fighters, 5 with DCfF) without too much impact on strike potential, 9x not so much while CAP goes from "lethal" to "very lethal" Come to think of it, Direction Center for Fighters might be quite meta due to fighters effectiveness Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TORAZ] El2aZeR Beta Tester 15,786 posts 26,801 battles Report post #11 Posted April 7, 2019 1 hour ago, kapnobathrac said: Beached benson inside my bomb reticle all bombs land around him. And retain planes to do what ? miss ? Bombs are not your weapon of choice against DDs in an Audacious. 1 hour ago, kapnobathrac said: and is it normal for your planes to be locked when leaving the aircraft ? Yes. 43 minutes ago, Panocek said: Also durability is countered by plane amount (base values) True up to a certain point. Past that however higher individual plane durability is more valuable. Also we don't talk about Haku. That CV no longer exists. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Panocek Players 13,176 posts 13,617 battles Report post #12 Posted April 7, 2019 8 minutes ago, El2aZeR said: Bombs are not your weapon of choice against DDs in an Audacious. Yes. True up to a certain point. Past that however higher individual plane durability is more valuable. Also we don't talk about Haku. That CV no longer exists. Funny, because mine is still in port though somehow I had more blast in Shokek, I guess every cruiser shipping itself with DFAA on mere hint of [T10 CV] have something to do with that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TORAZ] El2aZeR Beta Tester 15,786 posts 26,801 battles Report post #13 Posted April 7, 2019 12 minutes ago, Panocek said: Funny, because mine is still in port Shhhhhhhh. It's all good now. Let her rest in peace. (Or come to the Chinese server to revive her lol) 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
antean Players 853 posts 907 battles Report post #14 Posted April 7, 2019 46 minutes ago, El2aZeR said: (Or come to the Chinese server to revive her lol) Please send me a message, El2aZeR, about how to get to the Chinese Server because I want to play the RTS style of CV (even if it means grinding them again). I want my 'Ho' back, lol. Problem I saw was a warning about a potential virus when I went to download. Have you experienced that? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Panocek Players 13,176 posts 13,617 battles Report post #15 Posted April 7, 2019 12 minutes ago, El2aZeR said: Shhhhhhhh. It's all good now. Let her rest in peace. (Or come to the Chinese server to revive her lol) I've got more often than I'm comfortable with managing 6 squads of Midway and Hiryu and you want me to handle eight squads? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
antean Players 853 posts 907 battles Report post #16 Posted April 7, 2019 6 minutes ago, Panocek said: I'm comfortable with managing 6 squads of Midway and Hiryu and you want me to handle eight squads? I had no problem with 7 squads on a Taiho & the Taiho itself, Panocek (that's eight). Eight might be getting close to the limit but not insurmountable for those with any kind of intelligence. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
antean Players 853 posts 907 battles Report post #17 Posted April 7, 2019 27 minutes ago, El2aZeR said: It's all good now. Oh no it's not (lol). 41 minutes ago, Panocek said: Funny, because mine is still in port though somehow I had more blast in Shokek, I guess every cruiser shipping itself with DFAA on mere hint of [T10 CV] have something to do with that. To every action there will be an opposite and equal reaction. The chemistry (or is that the lack of it?) experiment in the Mad Scientists Lab is continuing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Panocek Players 13,176 posts 13,617 battles Report post #18 Posted April 7, 2019 3 minutes ago, antean said: I had no problem with 7 squads on a Taiho & the Taiho itself, Panocek (that's eight). Eight might be getting close to the limit but not insurmountable for those with any kind of intelligence. I'm not saying its not possible, but (hightier) RTS CV was to me like radiation, better applied in small doses. On other hand, the most fun I've ever had with RTS carriers was 0/1/3 Lexi and shortly before rework, Hiryu (when I got no confuse spells on me) 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TORAZ] El2aZeR Beta Tester 15,786 posts 26,801 battles Report post #19 Posted April 7, 2019 11 minutes ago, antean said: Please send me a message Spoiler Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
antean Players 853 posts 907 battles Report post #20 Posted April 7, 2019 12 minutes ago, Panocek said: I've got more often than I'm comfortable with managing 6 squads of Midway and Hiryu and you want me to handle eight squads? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gustywinds Players 444 posts 5,582 battles Report post #21 Posted April 7, 2019 I played four games in my Implacable today and, miracle of miracles, I only got Tier 10 once. Changes the whole game not getting constantly slaughtered by AA cruisers. Might get to Audacious yet! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[HOOKS] kingzy2013 Players 228 posts 6,355 battles Report post #22 Posted April 7, 2019 20 minutes ago, gustywinds said: I played four games in my Implacable today and, miracle of miracles, I only got Tier 10 once. Changes the whole game not getting constantly slaughtered by AA cruisers. Might get to Audacious yet! just got audacious. first impressions, same thing +1 torp. bombs no different, rockets no different. maybe slightly more fires but ayo, they get damage conned and its rare u get a second strike in sooo....more hp planes is pretty much all iv noticed so far. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
anonym_W7XfeVTP7y62 Players 55 posts Report post #23 Posted April 7, 2019 12 hours ago, kapnobathrac said: no it isnt regardless if you are in implacable or audacious,planes get destroyed quickly most of the times the speed boost doesnt work when you recharge your boost which means you die carpet bombing sucks rocketsplanes are the laughing stock of the internet also something is wrong with the AA system in tier X. Not only that but some ships have such a defense system that it makes you think your planes drop nukes and they quickly have to fend off the planes to survive when in fact they hit like a tier 8 cruiser solution: DONT PLAY CV Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[HOOKS] kingzy2013 Players 228 posts 6,355 battles Report post #24 Posted April 7, 2019 58 minutes ago, MrDenDen said: solution: DONT PLAY CV funny, i say the same thing to DDs moaning about [edited], go figure. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[N_R_A] Hopeless_Guppy Players 3,753 posts Report post #25 Posted April 8, 2019 13 hours ago, kapnobathrac said: no it isnt regardless if you are in implacable or audacious,planes get destroyed quickly most of the times the speed boost doesnt work when you recharge your boost which means you die carpet bombing sucks rocketsplanes are the laughing stock of the internet also something is wrong with the AA system in tier X. Not only that but some ships have such a defense system that it makes you think your planes drop nukes and they quickly have to fend off the planes to survive when in fact they hit like a tier 8 cruiser This is most distressing news as I am not for off finishing the grind for the Audacious, and it will be stock at that, I seriously need the HMS Indomitable as I am beginning to like CV play, so in effect Audacious is a tier 8 CV at tier 10, further proof that WG don't like stronk Brit ships, hmm. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
