HMS Audacious

[Horin728]

So what do you think about her?

 

After 5 games I found her extremely volatile, unwieldy and twitchy, yet she does well enough...

 

I have three main gripes with her

1) I don't like how the game takes control from me when I execute a carpet drop. It is cool for dive bombers but with the delay the carpet bombs have it is just infuriating.

2) The carpet bomb delay - yea it is there for balancing reasons probably, but I still don't like it.

3) The rocket planes feel extremely slow and twitchy, their acceleration/decceleration is super quick but their speed/manuverability is lacking

 

In summary she is a dynamite. She is as volatile as a flask of nitroglycelin and if you shake her, she will blow up in your face, however when used correctly she can crack the toughest of teams. Bear in mind I have only 5 games in her.

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[Hopeless_Guppy]

35 minutes ago, Horin728 said:

So what do you think about her?

 

After 5 games I found her extremely volatile, unwieldy and twitchy, yet she does well enough...

 

I have three main gripes with her

1) I don't like how the game takes control from me when I execute a carpet drop. It is cool for dive bombers but with the delay the carpet bombs have it is just infuriating.

2) The carpet bomb delay - yea it is there for balancing reasons probably, but I still don't like it.

3) The rocket planes feel extremely slow and twitchy, their acceleration/decceleration is super quick but their speed/manuverability is lacking

 

In summary she is a dynamite. She is as volatile as a flask of nitroglycelin and if you shake her, she will blow up in your face, however when used correctly she can crack the toughest of teams. Bear in mind I have only 5 games in her.

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Well well and I was going to try and grind millions of free xp for her, but your impressions do not sound like it is worthwhile, mind I cannot go above 130k without spending iton something,, that and I have just got the Bismarck, which needs to be totally upgraded before I take her out.

I now worry that if I did do the grind for her she would be as turdlike as the Nelson, my most hated ship in port.

[Namuras]

I like her... the DBs are iffy with their airtime... but the TBs are great. The attackers also seem decent vs DDs. 

 

Sadly this was a loss (and i was the only one scoring any kills): 

 

[Smeggo]

Yes, the slow-flying-bombs look really dumb. At least they do some damage.

[El2aZeR]

Audacious is meh to pretty good.

Her rockets are topkek against DDs (basically pre-nerf Midway RFs but much slower) but suck against everything else (unless you can find island cover to approach cruisers, then they're topkek as well).

Her bombs are topkek against BBs/cruisers they can pen but suck against everything else.

Her torps are great against BBs and unwieldy cruisers but suck against everything else.

 

TBs and DBs have great boost speed/duration and handling. RFs have abysmal speed/duration and handling.

Plane respawn speed is decent (same as Midway except DBs which spawn much faster on Midway)

Armor is actually the worst among T10 CVs. She has 25mm armor on both ends of the flight deck making her susceptible to long range BB AP. Most of the flight deck is also 38mm which can be penetrated by some HE shells. Only the middle part is 102mm thick which makes it immune to anything in the game. Citadel fairly very small tho.

 

Overall you're heavily dependent on having the right plane type at the right time which isn't as big of an issue as it sounds thanks to her planes being rather tanky. She can be enjoyable to play depending on the situation, but if you're looking for the flexibility Midway provides this won't be the right CV for you.

 

I'd tie her on second place with Enterprise.

[Horin728]

She is good for liquidators too apparently 

[CptBarney]

2 minutes ago, El2aZeR said:

Audacious is meh to pretty good.

Her rockets are topkek against DDs (basically pre-nerf Midway RFs but much slower) but suck against everything else (unless you can find island cover to approach cruisers, then they're topkek as well).

Her bombs are topkek against BBs/cruisers they can pen but suck against everything else.

Her torps are great against BBs and unwieldy cruisers but suck against everything else.

 

TBs and DBs have great boost speed/duration and handling. RFs have abysmal speed/duration and handling.

Plane respawn speed is decent (same as Midway except DBs which spawn much faster on Midway)

Armor is actually the worst among T10 CVs. She has 25mm armor on both ends of the flight deck making her susceptible to long range BB AP. Most of the flight deck is also 38mm which can be penetrated by some HE shells. Only the middle part is 102mm thick which makes it immune to anything in the game. Citadel fairly very small tho.

 

Overall you're heavily dependent on having the right plane type at the right time which isn't as big of an issue as it sounds thanks to her planes being rather tanky. She can be enjoyable to play depending on the situation, but if you're looking for the flexibility Midway provides this won't be the right CV for you.

 

I'd tie her on second place with Enterprise.

She seems quite situational which is a shame, as do most rn cv’s. I’ve noticed us cv’s seem to be the ones to go for especially when it comes to self defence.

 

I always assumed that brit cv’s would have decent armour flight decks but oh well. Are rocket fighters on rn planes better than the other three nations, worse or in the middle?

 

Makes me wonder how lusty and some of the other cv’s from AL would fair in this game.

[El2aZeR]

17 minutes ago, CptBarney said:

Are rocket fighters on rn planes better than the other three nations, worse or in the middle?

 

Depends on the target and situation. They deal hilarious damage but getting to the target in one piece is rather difficult against anything with halfway decent AA because they're so awfully slow and sluggish.

If you can catch a cruiser that you can pen tho? Those rockets will rip them a new one.

[CptBarney]

13 minutes ago, El2aZeR said:

 

Depends on the target and situation. They deal hilarious damage but getting to the target in one piece is rather difficult against anything with halfway decent AA because they're so awfully slow and sluggish.

If you can catch a cruiser that you can pen tho? Those rockets will rip them a new one.

Hmm fair enough i might actually go that line in the future then, i was thinking about the ijn line but i’ve been hearing nothing but bad things about it :/

[Pikkozoikum]

2 minutes ago, CptBarney said:

Hmm fair enough i might actually go that line in the future then, i was thinking about the ijn line but i’ve been hearing nothing but bad things about it :/

IJN good, banzai!

[El2aZeR]

17 minutes ago, CptBarney said:

Hmm fair enough i might actually go that line in the future then, i was thinking about the ijn line but i’ve been hearing nothing but bad things about it :/

 

If you want to grind then I wouldn't recommend that. Hermes is a snorefest like all T4 CVs. Furious TBs are the only good thing about her and she lacks the necessary reserves to spam them. Implacable is thoroughly unenjoyable to play because she's literally the same as Furious gameplay-wise but with far worse MM.

 

The RN CV line starts and ends with Audacious.

[Panocek]

41 minutes ago, CptBarney said:

Hmm fair enough i might actually go that line in the future then, i was thinking about the ijn line but i’ve been hearing nothing but bad things about it :/

I don't see anything wrong with IJN, unless you expect USN grade divebombers versatility. Dunno about Hosho, but expect her to be a Nap Simulator 2019, Ryujo is IMO best of the three CVs for operations due to the best TB and AP bombs brutalize all battleships you encounter (well, except Izumo in Newport) and with pinch of practice, most cruisers as well.

 

Shokek since TB buffs I find to be a keeper, though AP bombers could use penetration buff as you can't citadel BBs reliably unless its German and NC. That and standard issue, Tier 8 Matchmaking mk.1 rears its ugly head. Haku is ultimate capital ship molester and rockets actually do a thing, but suffer from long arming distance.

 

29 minutes ago, El2aZeR said:

The RN CV line starts and ends with Audacious.

So much for my idea of getting Implantable due to permacamo

[Lorien]

in short: not impressed

 

Pros:

- decent amount of planes (nothing special here)

- good tb with a special (good) spread and close drop (3 torps per drop, total dmg ist similar to 2 hakuryo or 6 midway torps)

- rocket planes are ok'ish ( one bazzilion hits per run  that will do 5k dmg or so)

 

cons:

 

- planes are slooooow...(rocket planes are awefull.. db/tb are a bit faster then midway but feel the same)

- its said the planes have the most hp..but the flightgroups are smaller.. so in the end your squad hp-pool is the same... and the planes are dying like flies (maybe they have no armor..or maybe they have changed something with aa in general..or the aa-zone rework isnt workkiing as intendend. dont know..havent played the other tx cvs so far)

- dive bombers: worst of all...

midway has somehow op he-bombs that will dmg everthing with big numbers... hakuryo has ap-bombs that can scratch some targets and give juice citadels on the right target...

the divebomber here are the worst. the carpetbombing isnt working and here its why: the hits are total random on small targets.. on standing dds you can have zero hits or 3 hits that do little to no dmg.. the bombs lack pen...i had drops on bbs with 15+ hits and nearly all shattered.. so your best hope is to start some fires...

the drop time is the next problem... you have to lead a lot cause when you do the drop you bombs are falling 6 seconds or so... in this time you can not move.. you cant recall your planes.. you can just watch how your bombs shatter or miss (you can do some good dmg against cruisers or french ships.. but its still less then hakuryo or midway).. so if you run out of tbs you will have an enormous dmg drop.. especial bbs are close to save (you will still do 5k dmg per attack with rockets or lucky drops. but it will take ages to kill a bb). 

and when the target is turning away so you dont drop across him you will hit close to nothing.

 

tier for tier the t8 db's feel better then this here..

 

so as an conclusion: its ok but has only one real trick (tb.. they feel really good) and a huge stinker (db)

 

if you like dive bombers : take midway (or if you want a challenge: take hakuryo.. its dbs are useless against dds and will be somtimes frustrating against cruisers.. but getting a 25.k. triple citadele is always nice)

if you like torps you can take this one or hakuryo (although i prefere hakuryo, your squad is faster and you have more planes = you can commence more attackes and do more dmg with one squad)

if you like rocketplanes: take whatever you want 

[Panocek]

5 minutes ago, Lorien said:

- its said the planes have the most hp..but the flightgroups are smaller.. so in the end your squad hp-pool is the same... and the planes are dying like flies (maybe they have no armor..or maybe they have changed something with aa in general..or the aa-zone rework isnt workkiing as intendend. dont know..havent played the other tx cvs so far)

Well, if squadron hp is the same as other CVs but planes are slower, then obviously they will spend more time within AA, thus take more damage. Which doesn't compute well with from what I see above average replenishment times

[El2aZeR]

45 minutes ago, Lorien said:

- planes are slooooow...(rocket planes are awefull.. db/tb are a bit faster then midway but feel the same)

 

Actually Audacious TBs and DBs have extremely good acceleration, good boost regen and high boost duration.

That means if you periodically tap boost to keep yourself from falling below ~195kn you have practically unlimited boost at your disposal. This makes them faster over a longer period of time than Midway TBs and DBs.

 

....I just gave away another exploit, didn't I?  it, I should stop doing that.

[Hopeless_Guppy]

3 hours ago, El2aZeR said:

 

If you want to grind then I wouldn't recommend that. Hermes is a snorefest like all T4 CVs. Furious TBs are the only good thing about her and she lacks the necessary reserves to spam them. Implacable is thoroughly unenjoyable to play because she's literally the same as Furious gameplay-wise but with far worse MM.

 

The RN CV line starts and ends with Audacious.

Don't forget the Indomitable, I met one in co ops, guy was testing it, said it has been nerfed heavily, I think the Brit CV's are intentionally made weak, if I get 10k dmage in a co op I am lucky, all my CV's are just for co ops.

[Hopeless_Guppy]

2 hours ago, El2aZeR said:

 

Actually Audacious TBs and DBs have extremely good acceleration, good boost regen and high boost duration.

That means if you periodically tap boost to keep yourself from falling below ~195kn you have practically unlimited boost at your disposal. This makes them faster over a longer period of time than Midway TBs and DBs.

 

....I just gave away another exploit, didn't I?  it, I should stop doing that.

Thanks for the tip, does it work on the Implacable too?

[JohnMac79]

CV need buffs.

[Horin728]

8 hours ago, El2aZeR said:

 

If you want to grind then I wouldn't recommend that. Hermes is a snorefest like all T4 CVs. Furious TBs are the only good thing about her and she lacks the necessary reserves to spam them. Implacable is thoroughly unenjoyable to play because she's literally the same as Furious gameplay-wise but with far worse MM.

 

The RN CV line starts and ends with Audacious.

 

8 hours ago, Panocek said:

So much for my idea of getting Implantable due to permacamo

 

I actually enjoyed my time in the Implacable. In TX she suffers heavily, but in mid tier or top tier MM she did well enough for me. I don't know if WG changed the carpet bombers on her to have the delay as well, if the did it's a mistake, if not, she is just fine... I am probably not going to play her, since the MM is a b*tch but it was fun enough while it lasted.

[SR_FRIOL]

I played a few games with her yesterday. I can't say its strong as the other two Cv's in her tier. Actually is the one most balanced in tierX. The rockets are meh to good against  light armoured enemies. Torps are by far the strongest tool from her, but not even close to Haku. The bombs are the pretty much crap honestly, or balanced if it's sound better against the other tierX's. For the moment I find the other two Cv's by far more fun to play

[Bainsmit_steel]

I am ok with torpedoes and rockets but there is something very wrong with bombs. I would like to think that it is a bug. I can accept (although it is meh solution if they balance bombs like that, I sill hope that it is a bug) that bombs drops 6 seconds....but I can not accept that you can not do anything in those 6 seconds...basically bombs are so random to hit and even more random to do some damage...this issue should be addressed...

[veslingr]

it is good that they did not do power creep, last couple of line they did good job on that part.

 

BUT pity they did not implement new play style with "carpet bombing" being main RN CV weapon. 

 

USA have bombs

IJN torps

And RN should have carpet bombs

 

 

[Yedwy]

I found her quite comfortable to play, same as other members of RN line, sort of "lazy mode" compared to us or ijn lines and that meshes quite nicely with me, only thing sort of annoying is that you HAVE to approach lenghtwise with DBs if you want some meaningfoul and consistent damage from them, preferably from the back to max out number of bomb hits but thats just something to get used to, those short fuzing torps are also quite nice and Audatious finally drops 3 of them whitch means 1-2 hits are basically guaranteed per run, also planes dart out of harm quickly and if you use island cover can hit nigh any target with impunity, even blobs if they are same tier and since Audatios us T10 well... 

[Asakka]

11 hours ago, El2aZeR said:

 

Actually Audacious TBs and DBs have extremely good acceleration, good boost regen and high boost duration.

That means if you periodically tap boost to keep yourself from falling below ~195kn you have practically unlimited boost at your disposal. This makes them faster over a longer period of time than Midway TBs and DBs.

 

....I just gave away another exploit, didn't I?  it, I should stop doing that.

I dont think its exploit, its like pharahs jetpack in OW

[El2aZeR]

29 minutes ago, Asakka said:

I dont think its exploit, its like pharahs jetpack in OW

 

Everything is an exploit when it comes to CVs.