I have decided to stop playing for WR and instead focus on having fun. Its not worth the stress or time to focus on battle outcomes!!!

[___V_E_N_O_M___]

For the past few months I have been tirelessly working to get my WR up to 50%, I have now hit 49% but have come to the realization that the stress involved is not really worth my time.

 

Of course I will continue to try and win by sinking as many enemy ships as I can, but if I win or loose I dont care a f anymore. Players are too stupid to work together, why should I burden all the stress for the game....

[loppantorkel]

Thanks for letting us know

 

I think it's a smart move though.. play the game for fun and less for stats.

[Erinnyes2000]

That's why I stick with coop - I have more fun in there than random. Plus, I think it's got better mannered players - they just seem calmer in coop.

[Hopeless_Guppy]

Totally agree with the above ^^^^^ games are meant to be fun, nice if you win, laugh at a defeat

 

Never fear, have beer and sail away happy

[Hopeless_Guppy]

Just now, Erinnyes2000 said:

That's why I stick with coop - I have more fun in there than random. Plus, I think it's got better mannered players - they just seem calmer in coop.

Lol you may find me in there, hope that don't cause no meltdowns, lol, the odd 'wtf' moment is allowed though,and if I am playing my Implacable you probably will utter those words

[Bear__Necessities]

As long as you make an effort to learn ships and techniques your WR will naturally progress anyway. You’ve made the right choice and you feel the benifit. 

[Beastofwar]

1 hour ago, ___V_E_N_O_M___ said:

For the past few months I have been tirelessly working to get my WR up to 50%, I have now hit 49% but have come to the realization that the stress involved is not really worth my time.

 

Of course I will continue to try and win by sinking as many enemy ships as I can, but if I win or loose I dont care a f anymore. Players are too stupid to work together, why should I burden all the stress for the game....

 

I have always done that, and if you are not looking for the approval of certain forum members not respecting your opinion if you do not have super unicum stats, or looking to enter a high profile clan......stats are meaningless anyway.

 

But to some fanatics it is all there is, probably the game itself does not even matter as we see it in many games......in some games that has worse consequenses then other games, for example elitists blocking you entry to grouped content, as you strictly need them to get there. Luckily we don't have that here (yet)

 

And yes playing to prevent falling stats means you are always under pressure, never free. This tenseness is probably at the base of the rage and anger if something is introduced in the game that requires changing tactics. As these fanatics cannot bear their stats falling going through the new leraning curve of the changes. CV rework was hell on most of them, and we got to read it.....

 

To me it is bad voodoo.....but i understand game developers want this bahaviour as remaining on top is designed to make you spend money in some ways.

[___V_E_N_O_M___]

I even tried to talk tactics but no one listens, I even had two games where the player was yoloing last min to farm damage and we were winning he died then we lost.

 

the guy had a 57% WR and said he doesnt play for Wr but for fun. If he can f peoples games up and not give a sh why should I care for other pixel humans.

 

We win We win, We lose We lose f it. i am done giving s and all those unicum players that look down on me or my wr f you too. :)

[Beastofwar]

21 minutes ago, ___V_E_N_O_M___ said:

I even tried to talk tactics but no one listens, I even had two games where the player was yoloing last min to farm damage and we were winning he died then we lost.

 

the guy had a 57% WR and said he doesnt play for Wr but for fun. If he can f peoples games up and not give a sh why should I care for other pixel humans.

 

We win We win, We lose We lose f it. i am done giving s and all those unicum players that look down on me or my wr f you too. :)

 

I know all of it.....

 

When you have  a low WR no one ever will listen, or drag your stats out and make clear you cannot speak...as you are regarded a noob. When you prove you can have great scores, rivalling or surpassing their own, the mere comment will be this was a lucky one occasion fluke, or you were being carried by the team. It comes down to you can never win with any argument. But should you even try to ?

 

I enjoyed this game for a long time without ever coming to the forums. I enjoyed many games without going to their forums. But when you do there is always a toxic elitst core that does not accept newcomers with an opinion anyway. Then you can either fight your way through them, but a mod will probably ban you at some point because you ruffle too many feathers.  Or don't choose to do this at all, and leave the elitist their elitism.

 

Actually i came here to deliver a counter opinion against the nerf calling complainers that hate CV class. But my voice was - ofcourse what was to be expected - not heard at all. Now i have to play a damaged design class. It was probably for the best i never went to forums. It is in fact a lot of wasted time. Can better play the game freely, free of elitist. In game you won't see any elitists...they sink just like any other player and in chat there is no "weight" to their voice at all, nor a possebility of showing off stats if you don't want to specificly look into them.

 

 

 

 

[___V_E_N_O_M___]

9 minutes ago, Beastofwar said:

 

I know all of it.....

 

When you have  a low WR no one ever will listen, or drag your stats out and make clear you cannot speak...as you are regarded a noob. When you prove you can have great scores, rivalling or surpassing their own, the mere comment will be this was a lucky one occasion fluke, or you were being carried by the team. It comes down to you can never win with any argument. But should you even try to ?

 

I enjoyed this game for a long time without ever coming to the forums. I enjoyed many games without going to their forums. But when you do there is always a toxic elitst core that does not accept newcomers with an opinion anyway. Then you can either fight your way through them, but a mod will probably ban you at some point because you ruffle too many feathers.  Or don't choose to do this at all, and leave the elitist their elitism.

 

Actually i came here to go against the nerf calling complainers that hate CV class. But my voice was - ofcourse what was to be expected - not heard at all. Now i have to play a damaged design class. It was probably for the best i never went to forums. It is in fact a lot of wasted time.

 

 

 

 

My main point is not the forums its the game, I too can be amazing in battle. I can be playing bad one min then go apeshi t on everyone the second and get very high damage results or kill many players. But that has only happened when I have had a good team or at least a team that tries.

 

Mostly I get neither, just players who dont care or do there own thing. So I will do the same now I think and not worry anymore. This past month I have gone WR mad, counting every win and every loss. When I loose more than I win I have to keep a tally of how many games I need to win in order to get back 0 or better.

 

It drives me mad and in turn I take it out on players who also dont care, so f everyone and f the game. I will have fun at everyones expense but still try to win and not care if I dont.

 

My heart is not big enough to care for the world so f it, at least I will be smiling from now on.

 

I remember a time I had a 45% WR and I played for fun with every ship I liked even weaker ones. I think I will go back to that mindset, just with the added bonus of everything I learned so far.

[Beastofwar]

When you win you have bonusses to your score.....one should be to not try and win.

 

But other then that i play for credits and XP, and a win is preferable but a profitable loss not the end of the world. Since i prefer to get the 50 % ( or more ) daily bonus winning is still important. The only thing that frustrates me is not getting this bonus for several matches as i have a number of ships that all need it to progress.

 

So my desire to win is bonus XP and credits based, not WR shaming or peackocery.

[thiextar]

what even is this thread... Just posting some answer to random points made throughout the thread:

 

1. If a guy has a 40% winrate and sometimes has great results, those results arent because of skill, they are because of luck. If skill had anything to do with it, the player wouldnt have 40% winrate.

 

2. Why would i listen to the tactical advice of someone who is clearly very bad at the game?

 

3. 57% Player yoloing in to get damage is probably a very good player who focuses more on personal results than wins, i dont like those players much, but it doesnt mean they are bad at the game, they just have different priorities.

 

4. venom, have you ever played for stats? it doesnt look like it, so why inform us that you are now not doing what you were never doing?

 

5. you dont win by focusing on stats, you win by focusing on winning. Stats come as a result of playing well, not the other way around.

 

6. Its not fun to lose.

[Arrive_Alive]

2 hours ago, ___V_E_N_O_M___ said:

For the past few months I have been tirelessly working to get my WR up to 50%, I have now hit 49% but have come to the realization that the stress involved is not really worth my time.

 

Of course I will continue to try and win by sinking as many enemy ships as I can, but if I win or loose I dont care a f anymore. Players are too stupid to work together, why should I burden all the stress for the game....

complaining about stupid players as a sub 50% player is pretty smart...

14 minutes ago, thiextar said:

what even is this thread... Just posting some answer to random points made throughout the thread:

 

1. If a guy has a 40% winrate and sometimes has great results, those results arent because of skill, they are because of luck. If skill had anything to do with it, the player wouldnt have 40% winrate.

 

2. Why would i listen to the tactical advice of someone who is clearly very bad at the game?

 

3. 57% Player yoloing in to get damage is probably a very good player who focuses more on personal results than wins, i dont like those players much, but it doesnt mean they are bad at the game, they just have different priorities.

 

4. venom, have you ever played for stats? it doesnt look like it, so why inform us that you are now not doing what you were never doing?

 

5. you dont win by focusing on stats, you win by focusing on winning. Stats come as a result of playing well, not the other way around.

 

6. Its not fun to lose.

^this sums it up

[Beastofwar]

15 minutes ago, thiextar said:

what even is this thread... Just posting some answer to random points made throughout the thread:

 

1. If a guy has a 40% winrate and sometimes has great results, those results arent because of skill, they are because of luck. If skill had anything to do with it, the player wouldnt have 40% winrate.

 

2. Why would i listen to the tactical advice of someone who is clearly very bad at the game?

 

3. 57% Player yoloing in to get damage is probably a very good player who focuses more on personal results than wins, i dont like those players much, but it doesnt mean they are bad at the game, they just have different priorities.

 

4. venom, have you ever played for stats? it doesnt look like it, so why inform us that you are now not doing what you were never doing?

 

5. you dont win by focusing on stats, you win by focusing on winning. Stats come as a result of playing well, not the other way around.

 

6. Its not fun to lose.

 

Impressive...all you said is wrong.

[thiextar]

12 minutes ago, Beastofwar said:

 

Impressive...all you said is wrong.

Please explain why each point is wrong.

[Kartoffelmos]

6 minutes ago, Beastofwar said:

Impressive...all you said is wrong.

 

Everything he wrote is logical though, which implies that you have a rather personal (or irrational) reason to conclude that way. Feel free to elaborate.

[That_Other_Nid]

2 hours ago, ___V_E_N_O_M___ said:

For the past few months I have been tirelessly working to get my WR up to 50%, I have now hit 49% but have come to the realization that the stress involved is not really worth my time.

 

Of course I will continue to try and win by sinking as many enemy ships as I can, but if I win or loose I dont care a f anymore. Players are too stupid to work together, why should I burden all the stress for the game....

Yup, the vast majority of players are 49% players. Those couple hundred terrible games at the start will always drag you down. And really, in randoms all you can do is play for fun, those epic moments, and to laugh at all the dumbassery that makes up WOWs. I was a 60% win rate player for 2 weeks in the Chung Mu and at the same time a 7% win rate player in the Fletcher. There are some astonishingly good players but I sure ain't one of them.

[anonym_mlJIAFnOwMVb]

SO WOKE

[JohnMac79]

1 hour ago, Beastofwar said:

 

I know all of it.....

 

When you have  a low WR no one ever will listen, or drag your stats out and make clear you cannot speak...as you are regarded a noob.

 

Nah, i just think that when people start trying to pretend that they are bastions of knowledge when ALL of their stats show that they are well below average in every single ship class and in every respect, people just feel like 

 

When they then go on to say how they mostly play coop, and how good they are against bots, i think they probably just 

[lafeel]

4 hours ago, ___V_E_N_O_M___ said:

For the past few months I have been tirelessly working to get my WR up to 50%, I have now hit 49% but have come to the realization that the stress involved is not really worth my time.

 

Of course I will continue to try and win by sinking as many enemy ships as I can, but if I win or loose I dont care a f anymore. Players are too stupid to work together, why should I burden all the stress for the game....

Funny, I have found that actually can help your win rate more than it will hurt it. And will definetly help your  blood pressure.

[eliastion]

5 hours ago, Beastofwar said:

 

Impressive...all you said is wrong.

So, since all he said is wrong (according to you), then you believe that:

- If a 40% player gets a good result once in a blue moon, it means that he was suddenly incredibly skilled for the duration of one match.

- You should listen to tactical advice from bad players.

- A 57% player that makes questionable (but more fun for him) decisions (but still maintains 57% WR while doing so) is a bad player.

AND

- It's good stats that make you play better rather than playing better resulting in better stats.

 

Quite an unconventional set of opinions, I must say. Brave, even.

[Kenliero]

Your WR might go up now that you stop worrying about it... 

 

More relaxed game, where you take your time for making plans is often better gameplay.

[Lina_Hyo]

Personally I think there is nothing wrong with a healthy amount of initative for progressing positively in terms of statistics, yet at the same time a level of awareness for the mathematical aspects in the random team distribution and its outcome in terms of WR should also be present. There is a saying from the WoT-Forum regarding this topic: "40% of your games you lose anyways, 40% of your games you win anyways, deciding the rest is up to you" - so far this has been pretty accurate for most non-exceptional or manipulating* players.

 

It is more than understandable that the bigger a focus on winning is present, even when it is just for small parts of statistical self improvement, the bigger the frustration will be when it is just not allowed to happen, whatever the reason. But on the other hand it is pretty rude against the own team and rather counterproductive for the game/community to not care about winning while participating in game modes that put a lot of focus in terms of progression, rewards and satisfaction on said victory.

 

For OP I hope he finds a solution for himself that is pleasant to play for everyone. I mean he has a clan, there sure will be some motivated people to carry him above 50% WR or teach him the personal playing capabilities to reach and keep it himself, but who I am to judge such things.

 

^{*manipulating in legal terms, such as playing with others, avoiding stock ships/vehicles and playing elite captains/crews}

[Mr_Snoww]

It's so cringy to see 49% wr players calling other people stupid

[SirAmra]

I ruined wot with to much stat focus. Couldn't enjoy the games that much, as I should have.

I made sure I didn't fall in the same trap in wows. I once in a while have a look see. But other than that I don't care.

But that doesn't mean I don't play to win.....cause I like to win.  I just don't get hung up in numbers.

For everything else, I got beer.