Warderer Beta Tester 60 posts 2,914 battles Report post #1 Posted March 27, 2019 Hey Everyone! Soo lately I have not been playing alot of Wows and that decline in my interest to the game began after I got the Musashi. This ship is amazing... but its maybe too good. Sometimes I feel awkward while playing her as top tier as the ships in front of me dont stand a chance. I got in the habit of dealing significant amounts of dmg without any concentration on my side. Just angle, shoot anything and have a general idea of where the enemy dds are. That is it basically. I think that this is where the problem comes for me. Why should I struggle with other ships to produce the results, that I effortlessly get with the Musashi? Every time that I play another ship I feel that I am wasting my time and credits. But maybe its just me. I rarely get games above 180k dmg and that is not the case with this beast. I guess I will just have to force myself to play some other ships for some time :D. Are you guys experiencing the same? 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-SBG-] ColonelPete Players 38,559 posts 19,178 battles Report post #2 Posted March 27, 2019 Get more games with CV, then you will experience her drawbacks better. 3 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CptBarney Players 8,127 posts 245 battles Report post #3 Posted March 27, 2019 I usually melt them with my charles martel or saint louis. I generally dont have an issue with them too be honest. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CHEFT] DFens_666 Players 13,162 posts 11,029 battles Report post #4 Posted March 27, 2019 6 minutes ago, Warderer said: Any tips to combat it? :P Get rid of the others first - Musashi will collapse too. Especially if you can kill the enemy DD first, and you get your own DD to torp the Musashi (which would force it to move). And ofc you have many noobs playing the Musashi, they will make their team lose anyway by sniping from maxrange. But i kinda see it the same way: Its basicly a Yamato on T9, its much more OP than Missouri for me. But Missouri gets more hate because it has Radar. And looking at Musashi they think "oh it has a Citadel, it will die easily" - nope. If you can protect the weakspots, you can farm at will. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[KAKE] Uglesett Players 2,804 posts 6,795 battles Report post #5 Posted March 27, 2019 18 minutes ago, Warderer said: Why should I struggle with other ships to produce the results, that I effortlessly get with the Musashi? Every time that I play another ship I feel that I am wasting my time and credits. Erm. Your credits (and elite captain exp, if applicable) that you get from playing the Musashi are completely wasted if you don't also play and research tech tree ships that you can purchase for the credits. I mean, if we're going to talk about "wasting" play time, few things are as wasteful as playing elite ships (which includes premiums), as you don't get any kind of progression from the exp you earn. (Well, unless you're some kind of monstrous, prehistoric whale that's willing to throw a lot of cash at converting ship exp to free exp). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[THESO] MrWastee Players 4,255 posts 33,584 battles Report post #6 Posted March 27, 2019 musashi is imho one, if not THE, most op ship ingame. simply to MM. u get a yammie that faces colorados and nagatos..... i mean...... ..... it has the drawbacks of a yammie (and some more), but essentially it doesnt give a crap about that, simply coz: yamato! planes are her bane and thats it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TORAZ] El2aZeR Beta Tester 15,786 posts 26,801 battles Report post #7 Posted March 27, 2019 28 minutes ago, ColonelPete said: Get more games with CV, then you will experience her drawbacks better. Until the fighter exploit gets fixed, sure. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CptBarney Players 8,127 posts 245 battles Report post #8 Posted March 27, 2019 5 minutes ago, El2aZeR said: Until the fighter exploit gets fixed, sure. FIghter exploit? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TORAZ] El2aZeR Beta Tester 15,786 posts 26,801 battles Report post #9 Posted March 27, 2019 1 minute ago, CptBarney said: FIghter exploit? 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[OM] belalugosisdead Players 1,038 posts 30,708 battles Report post #10 Posted March 27, 2019 13 minutes ago, Uglesett said: I mean, if we're going to talk about "wasting" play time, few things are as wasteful as playing elite ships (which includes premiums), as you don't get any kind of progression from the exp you earn. Why, the sense of the game for me is not grinding. But having fun while playing the ship i want to play. Why should I always progress to some new Ship if i already have 150. And sorry, the thought of wasting playtime seems a little bit funny to me. Plus: think they are lots of people who doesnt have much to grind. Think i have besides CVs all T10s except Daring. And if i want to, i could easy free XP it. :-) 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CptBarney Players 8,127 posts 245 battles Report post #11 Posted March 27, 2019 Ahh ok thanks. *senpai noticed meh* 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[S-E] FixCVs_Nautical_Metaphor Players 3,532 posts 29,240 battles Report post #12 Posted March 27, 2019 Several things: She is definitely OP. However, Zitat Sometimes I feel awkward while playing her as top tier Well how often does that happen? As with all the other Tier IXs, and of course Tier VIIIs, you're usually not top tier. At least that's what it feels like. Then again, Musashi can of course be all the more OP as bottom tier. Because it's basically bringing another Tier X ship to the battle when the other team only has a Tier IX. As long as theirs is not a Musashi. On still another note, all of this is only true while all other factors are equal. I'd rather have a competent FdG on my team than a poor Musashi. Doesn't have to be a super brutal unicorm, just basic competence. Know what they can and cannot do, and stick to it. If it gets too boring, just push more, to challenge yourself. I find myself chasing DDs around more often than I'd like, which probably speaks to a certain lack of patience and to poor positioning (so 180K damage games remain the exception for me.) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[KAKE] Uglesett Players 2,804 posts 6,795 battles Report post #13 Posted March 27, 2019 7 minutes ago, belalugosisdead said: Why should I always progress to some new Ship if i already have 150. But that's beside the point of the thread. I mean, the only purpose of the reward system is to acquire new ships, mainly through researching and purchasing tech tree ships. If you're not interested in the latter, there's no real point caring about the former. But OP obviously cares about the results, despite them being "wasted" if you're not using them to acquire new tech tree ships. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BHSFL] Beastofwar [BHSFL] Players 4,596 posts Report post #14 Posted March 27, 2019 It has drawbacks.....i shot 5 successive citadels into one with a mere T8 Roma. It was like a hot knife through butter. I did not see anything like it except for shooting broadside cruisers. The most amusing thing about it is with a secondary build the 155 mm's can shoot at DD's up to 10.1 km but reliably kill them at ~7 km, all on their own. In ranked i checked where DD were for their torpedo threat but left them completley to the secondaries, so i could aim the heavy guns with excliusively AP at more worthwhile hitpoint targets. When broadside it's 9 x 155 mm which is almost cruiser power firing at the DD, not using any main guns. They never failed me. For that i like the ship, not for it's powerul main guns much more ships have ( be it "smaller" caliber but that does not say much ) I fear even the Yamato with fewer large secondary guns will disappoint me... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[KAKE] Uglesett Players 2,804 posts 6,795 battles Report post #15 Posted March 27, 2019 17 minutes ago, El2aZeR said: I love the fact that my reaction picture will seemingly forever follow that thread whenever someone links to it. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SR_FRIOL Players 219 posts Report post #16 Posted March 27, 2019 When I find a Mushasi with my CV I broke his game. That's how it works. Big fish eats the smaller one Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BODEM] FukushuNL Players 1,235 posts 8,476 battles Report post #17 Posted March 27, 2019 1 hour ago, belalugosisdead said: Why, the sense of the game for me is not grinding. But having fun while playing the ship i want to play. Why should I always progress to some new Ship if i already have 150. And sorry, the thought of wasting playtime seems a little bit funny to me. Plus: think they are lots of people who doesnt have much to grind. Think i have besides CVs all T10s except Daring. And if i want to, i could easy free XP it. :-) Why worry when you like to play "Musashi: the game"? As long as you are having fun. I therefor don't see the reason for this thread. Or is it to show off your Musashi skills? Or the fact that you have all the lines at T10? Or a no-life amount of Fxp? Do I spy someone who needs a pat on their head and a "good boy!" as they are yearning for acknowledgement? :) Ok, You are awesome!! We all want to be like you ;) 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SCRUB] aboomination Players 5,763 posts 16,940 battles Report post #18 Posted March 27, 2019 2 hours ago, Warderer said: Why should I struggle with other ships to produce the results, that I effortlessly get with the Musashi? Because Yamato playstyle is so boring and passive? :P Idk..I like to play the perceived weaker ships from time to time cause of...you know, fun and variety ;) 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[PEZ] Yedwy Players 11,301 posts 39,586 battles Report post #19 Posted March 27, 2019 Just food for balancegrad 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[LAFIE] lafeel Beta Tester 7,707 posts 7,856 battles Report post #20 Posted March 27, 2019 @Warderer Tell that to that Mushi I quadruple citted in my Nagato last night. I am sure it's great consolation to him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[KLUNJ] bushwacker001 [KLUNJ] Players 2,870 posts Report post #21 Posted March 27, 2019 1 hour ago, lafeel said: @Warderer Tell that to that Mushi I quadruple citted in my Nagato last night. I am sure it's great consolation to him. Are you serious??? bragging about killing a bot bb in coop??? lol 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[OM] belalugosisdead Players 1,038 posts 30,708 battles Report post #22 Posted March 27, 2019 3 hours ago, Uglesett said: But OP obviously cares about the results, despite them being "wasted" if you're not using them to acquire new tech tree ships. oh. Maybe i misinterpreted the reason for the thread.. but i thought it was a different kind of "musashi is maybe a Little bit too much for T9, why taking another ship on this tier thread". Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[OM] belalugosisdead Players 1,038 posts 30,708 battles Report post #23 Posted March 27, 2019 1 hour ago, FukushuNL said: I therefor don't see the reason for this thread. maybe you did not see it in your attempt to write funny: i did not opened the thread. the rest is just in your head :-) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[X-10] ___V_E_N_O_M___ Players 2,129 posts 14,292 battles Report post #24 Posted March 27, 2019 40 minutes ago, bushwacker001 said: Are you serious??? bragging about killing a bot bb in coop??? lol AI has increased a lot since its inception, judging by the "intelligence" shown by some humans on here BOTS are definitely an upgrade on the evolutionary path of our planet. Dont discount them!!! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NWP] Bear__Necessities Players 5,291 posts 15,379 battles Report post #25 Posted March 27, 2019 5 hours ago, Beastofwar said: It has drawbacks.....i shot 5 successive citadels into one with a mere T8 Roma. It was like a hot knife through butter. I did not see anything like it except for shooting broadside cruisers. The most amusing thing about it is with a secondary build the 155 mm's can shoot at DD's up to 10.1 km but reliably kill them at ~7 km, all on their own. In ranked i checked where DD were for their torpedo threat but left them completley to the secondaries, so i could aim the heavy guns with excliusively AP at more worthwhile hitpoint targets. When broadside it's 9 x 155 mm which is almost cruiser power firing at the DD, not using any main guns. They never failed me. For that i like the ship, not for it's powerul main guns much more ships have ( be it "smaller" caliber but that does not say much ) I fear even the Yamato with fewer large secondary guns will disappoint me... Really. How many DD’s did you kill with Secondaries then? As Musashis greatest weakness is DD, Torpedos and Fire... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites