[-RT-] Maaseru Players 727 posts 16,956 battles Report post #1 Posted March 26, 2019 Hello everyone, with the release of 0.8.2 being pushed back a couple of days I want to bring your attention to one specifc part of 0.8.2, the CV UI Changes because I think most people are not even aware of it yet. I want to remind you that this thread is only about a planned change by WG and not about the state of CVs as a whole and their balance. If you think they are overperforming or underperforming, AA being too weak or too strong is irrelevant for this, so please stay away from those discussions here, thank you! So, what are the CV UI Changes about, let's have a look: I want to bring your attention to their planned change on not showing you the total number of aircraft on deck by default. This is for me and most people who play CVs (experienced and new ones) one of the most valuable if not the most valuable information out there because you make decisions based on that number, for example which type of aircraft to use next to maximize your efficency and minimize your losses or even if you are allowed to make a risky attack and "throw away" some planes because you still have a lot of reserves left etc. They are now planning on going to exchange the total amount of aircraft on deck to the readiness of your entire squadron. If you want to see your total amout of aircraft on deck you have to press ALT everytime you want to see them and for me that is an unacceptable change! I only played 3 games on PTS3 this Monday because it simply had a lot of other stuff do to in the past weeks which basically led to me having no time for PTS. During those 3 games I found myself missing one of the most important information in the CV UI and me having to press ALT basically hundred times because before almost every attack, during attacks etc I always look at this number and all I saw was the number of planes for my next squadron but not my entire flightdeck which tbh really annoyed me. Some people may now think that this is not a big change but trust me it is. You could always see your entire flightdeck (back in RTS and obviously after the rework as well in 0.8.0 and on live in 0.8.1) for good reasons because it's such an important information and going to hide this information behind pressing a key (in this case ALT which most people probably would never even find out) is simply a no-go for me, not only for experienced players but also for new players! Removing/hiding important information from the UI is a really really bad thing and in general the wrong way to go WG! The reason I'm going to bring this up in general discussion is that sadly the PTS section of this forum is barely used and I had to post it on several discords to get some attention to this topic because even most experienced players haven't heard about this for several reason (limited time for PTS, lots of live server missions and ofc KotS etc). And looking at this made me think that probably barely anyway is aware of this and before topics raise when 0.8.2 hits, I preemptively make this post to inform you about it. I'll post the link to the specific thread in the PTS section (it got over 1/3 of its total views just today btw!) and probs to @Crysantos for actually being very active today which made me think that this might still not be set in stone if enough people would give their opinion/feedback on this. My take on this is leave the total amout of aircraft on deck in the standard UI as well, don't change that! You already changed some other stuff to make squadron sizes ingame a but more clear (which is perfectly fine) but all those information are already being displayed in port as well, there is absolutely no need and reason to exchange the total number of aircraft on deck for only squadron readiness in the battle UI! This is no improvement at all and calling it an improvement is questionable at best, more like a downgrade as someone already gave us feedback! Thanks for reading and remember, no CV balance discussions please, thank you! Maaseru 43 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[POP] Altsak Players 791 posts 16,516 battles Report post #2 Posted March 26, 2019 9 minutes ago, Maaseru said: Removing/hiding important information from the UI is a really really bad thing and in general the wrong way to go WG! Agreed. MrConway/Crysantos, make the change unhappen. I'm a potato CV player and this change will make me suck even more. (Also force alternative interface mode to full for new players) 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CaptainObvious007 Players 157 posts 21,148 battles Report post #3 Posted March 26, 2019 agreed Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TORAZ] El2aZeR Beta Tester 15,786 posts 26,801 battles Report post #4 Posted March 26, 2019 SIgned. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NIKE] Xevious_Red Beta Tester 3,412 posts 7,888 battles Report post #5 Posted March 26, 2019 Agreed Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[WG] Killerbin34 WG Staff 260 posts 32,042 battles Report post #6 Posted March 26, 2019 Agreed Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[POI--] aidenthedestroyer Players 767 posts 7,825 battles Report post #7 Posted March 26, 2019 Took me a bit of time to notice, but I agree as well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CN_] _Kettenbeisser Beta Tester 210 posts 13,224 battles Report post #8 Posted March 26, 2019 Signed (remember to post onto feedback as well to flood them with our dissatifaction ) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
little_rowboat Players 340 posts Report post #9 Posted March 26, 2019 Not playing cv anymore, but also not interested in being challenged less due to unsmart moves by WG.. so signed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TOFTC] Pikkozoikum Players 7,658 posts 13,680 battles Report post #10 Posted March 26, 2019 When I started to play the reworked CV on beta test, I was always wondering, why I see the total number, and not the squad number. I guess I prefer the change, since you can see now both, the flight deck number and the squad number Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CKBK] K3nti Beta Tester 28 posts 16,447 battles Report post #11 Posted March 26, 2019 /signed Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[PEZ] Yedwy Players 11,301 posts 39,586 battles Report post #12 Posted March 26, 2019 Agreed no need for this whatsoever Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[OHFK] affie Players 437 posts 14,453 battles Report post #13 Posted March 26, 2019 Agreed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BODEM] FukushuNL Players 1,235 posts 8,476 battles Report post #14 Posted March 26, 2019 Got my vote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NWP] Bear__Necessities Players 5,291 posts 15,379 battles Report post #15 Posted March 26, 2019 Even I agree... and I hate you CV players 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-FF-] elblancogringo Players 1,207 posts 7,342 battles Report post #16 Posted March 26, 2019 I agree with OP. But I don't even understand why they wanted to change that in the the 1st place??? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[P0RT] Admiral_H_Nelson Players 3,938 posts 23,206 battles Report post #17 Posted March 26, 2019 15 minutes ago, Bear_Necessities said: Even I agree... and I hate you CV players Location: A cold dark place where men wear skirts Thai Ladyboys Antarctic Expedition? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NWP] Bear__Necessities Players 5,291 posts 15,379 battles Report post #18 Posted March 26, 2019 2 minutes ago, Admiral_H_Nelson said: Location: A cold dark place where men wear skirts Thai Ladyboys Antarctic Expedition? Close. Scotland 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TOXIC] Kartoffelmos Alpha Tester 2,237 posts 8,884 battles Report post #19 Posted March 26, 2019 Maybe I'm dumb not as smart as I think I am, but isn't it already a function that lets you have the best interface always enabled? Or did WG "forget" to add the CV-specific features to it? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-RT-] Maaseru Players 727 posts 16,956 battles Report post #20 Posted March 26, 2019 2 minutes ago, Kartoffelmos said: Maybe I'm dumb not as smart as I think I am, but isn't it already a function that lets you have the best interface always enabled? Or did WG "forget" to add the CV-specific features to it? The are not linked. You can only see the alternative CV UI when you hold down ALT. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CptBarney Players 8,127 posts 245 battles Report post #21 Posted March 26, 2019 Wargaming doing what they do best, making completely pointless changes that no one asked for. signed. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[HOO] DreadArchangel Weekend Tester 1,004 posts Report post #22 Posted March 26, 2019 Agreed there's no need for it, they would have better spent their time on fixing the parts of the cv that need fixing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TOXIC] Kartoffelmos Alpha Tester 2,237 posts 8,884 battles Report post #23 Posted March 26, 2019 Just now, Maaseru said: The are not linked. You can only see the alternative CV UI when you hold down ALT. Because that is obviously the best way to do it, right? For a company that claims that your average CV player is too braindead to manage DCP and/or fires, it's awfully weird that they want to implement more player input . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SPUDS] konean Players 418 posts 12,620 battles Report post #24 Posted March 26, 2019 Up we go, hiding information is never good. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Robustius Beta Tester 90 posts 23,476 battles Report post #25 Posted March 26, 2019 /signed No need for this change. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
