[RODS] Ronchabale Players 3,002 posts 10,002 battles Report post #1 Posted March 21, 2019 Say you purchase a 10p captain (John Doe, Victor Znamenski, Bert Dunkirk) in the armoury for dubloons. This captain is already specced to a tier 1 ship (Black Swan, Orlan, Eire) that you most likely never will play. First thing you have to do is re-spec him for more dubloons to some ship that you will use. Why not just sell him un-specced. Kind of like having to pay for ketchup when u buy a hot dog (is this WG being greedy) 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-SBG-] ColonelPete Players 38,559 posts 19,178 battles Report post #2 Posted March 21, 2019 You do not need Dubloons.... You can retrain him for free. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NWP] Ubertron_X [NWP] Beta Tester 2,657 posts 25,768 battles Report post #3 Posted March 21, 2019 6 minutes ago, ColonelPete said: You can retrain him for free Time is money though... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SCRUB] T0byJug Quality Poster 5,358 posts 25,539 battles Report post #4 Posted March 21, 2019 15 minutes ago, Ronchabale said: Say you purchase a 10p captain (John Doe, Victor Znamenski, Bert Dunkirk) in the armoury for dubloons. This captain is already specced to a tier 1 ship (Black Swan, Orlan, Eire) that you most likely never will play. First thing you have to do is re-spec him for more dubloons to some ship that you will use. Why not just sell him un-specced. Kind of like having to pay for ketchup when u buy a hot dog (is this WG being greedy) Use commander XP... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[RODS] Ronchabale Players 3,002 posts 10,002 battles Report post #5 Posted March 21, 2019 11 minutes ago, ColonelPete said: You do not need Dubloons.... You can retrain him for free. Well that is obvious isnt it Thing is they sell him for dubloons expecting u to use more dubloons to respec him to a "useable" ship Who is gonna buy (pay real money) a 10p captain and then retrain him over the course of many games Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Panocek Players 13,176 posts 13,617 battles Report post #6 Posted March 21, 2019 19 minutes ago, Ronchabale said: Say you purchase a 10p captain (John Doe, Victor Znamenski, Bert Dunkirk) in the armoury for dubloons. This captain is already specced to a tier 1 ship (Black Swan, Orlan, Eire) that you most likely never will play. First thing you have to do is re-spec him for more dubloons to some ship that you will use. Why not just sell him un-specced. Kind of like having to pay for ketchup when u buy a hot dog (is this WG being greedy) With 0.8.2 release should be another week (or so) free retraining period, unless WG cancelled that. Just now, Ronchabale said: Well that is obvious isnt it Thing is they sell him for dubloons expecting u to use more dubloons to respec him to a "useable" ship Who is gonna buy (pay real money) a 10p captain and then retrain him over the course of many games You mean captain WG keep throwing at me at regular intervals simply by playing? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-SBG-] ColonelPete Players 38,559 posts 19,178 battles Report post #7 Posted March 21, 2019 2 minutes ago, Ronchabale said: Well that is obvious isnt it Thing is they sell him for dubloons expecting u to use more dubloons to respec him to a "useable" ship Who is gonna buy (pay real money) a 10p captain and then retrain him over the course of many games They do not expect that, otherwise they would not give you the free option. All captains have a specialisation, there are none without one. Even if there were, you would have to retrain him from "none" to target ship. That is how the game works. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[WGP2W] LemonadeWarriorITA [WGP2W] Beta Tester 1,669 posts 8,186 battles Report post #8 Posted March 21, 2019 It is a bit silly indeed, OP. Probably because they don't want to program it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[RODS] Ronchabale Players 3,002 posts 10,002 battles Report post #9 Posted March 21, 2019 29 minutes ago, Panocek said: With 0.8.2 release should be another week (or so) free retraining period, unless WG cancelled that. You mean captain WG keep throwing at me at regular intervals simply by playing? Yeah the free retraining is coming up Yeah I have also got a few 10p captains with special skills for free (Yamamoto, Jean Jacqes Honore, Franz Von Jutland and some Chinese guy) however its way easier to get new tech line ships that need captains and the option of getting a 10p special captain for dubloons is good. Not everyone has the time to grind or skill (Yamamoto, Halsey) / luck (Jack Dunkirk was before I started playing this game) to get these special captains so I can see why they sell them Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[RONIN] ssiimmoonn2211 Players 13 posts 6,228 battles Report post #10 Posted March 21, 2019 I don't see the problem really. One match with a dragon flag and it's retrained Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[AMOK] Donar79 Players 1,968 posts 9,010 battles Report post #11 Posted March 21, 2019 1 hour ago, T0byJug said: Use commander XP... This. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[DK-CP] NothingButTheRain Players 6,338 posts 14,260 battles Report post #12 Posted March 21, 2019 2 hours ago, Ronchabale said: Say you purchase a 10p captain (John Doe, Victor Znamenski, Bert Dunkirk) in the armoury for dubloons. This captain is already specced to a tier 1 ship (Black Swan, Orlan, Eire) that you most likely never will play. First thing you have to do is re-spec him for more dubloons to some ship that you will use. Why not just sell him un-specced. Kind of like having to pay for ketchup when u buy a hot dog (is this WG being greedy) I can highly advice you to get at least one 19pt captain so you can generate ECXP and retrain for free always 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[RODS] Ronchabale Players 3,002 posts 10,002 battles Report post #13 Posted March 21, 2019 4 hours ago, NothingButTheRain said: I can highly advice you to get at least one 19pt captain so you can generate ECXP and retrain for free always I have 13 captains with 19 skill points and 377k elite commander XP at the moment Are u actually reading the original post " Say you purchase a 10p captain (John Doe, Victor Znamenski, Bert Dunkirk) in the armoury for dubloons. This captain is already specced to a tier 1 ship (Black Swan, Orlan, Eire) that you most likely never will play. First thing you have to do is re-spec him for more dubloons to some ship that you will use. Why not just sell him un-specced." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TOXIC] eliastion Players 4,795 posts 12,260 battles Report post #14 Posted March 21, 2019 6 hours ago, Ronchabale said: Say you purchase a 10p captain (John Doe, Victor Znamenski, Bert Dunkirk) in the armoury for dubloons. This captain is already specced to a tier 1 ship (Black Swan, Orlan, Eire) that you most likely never will play. First thing you have to do is re-spec him for more dubloons to some ship that you will use. Why not just sell him un-specced. Kind of like having to pay for ketchup when u buy a hot dog (is this WG being greedy) Most likely it's a technical problem. When captains first appeared, they were always recruited on a specific ships - and so a captain HAS to be trained for SOMETHING. Allowing them to be freely assigned after purchase would require some resources to actually develop the feature. And WG just saw no real benefit in investing these resources - they decided that just dumping such captains on the t1 of respective nation is good enough. Such a captain can be used on premium ships right away and trained for any other ship the same way you can train any other captain you'd want to transfer there. To put it simply - no, it's not WG being greedy, more like "lazy" if anything, unwilling to have their developers spend time (read: burn money) on developing a feature that has no effect beyond saving some doublons/eliteXP/retraining time for people who buy (or receive from a mission) a special captain. Also, from a practical point of view - if you want to buy a special captain, now might be a good time. In a week (after the upcoming 0.8.2 patch) we're going to have free respec+retraining for captains. So if you buy a captain and wait a week (or wait a week and then buy a captain) you're going to be able to circumvent the extra costs. Although it's this month's specific thing 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[RODS] Ronchabale Players 3,002 posts 10,002 battles Report post #15 Posted March 21, 2019 1 minute ago, eliastion said: Most likely it's a technical problem. When captains first appeared, they were always recruited on a specific ships - and so a captain HAS to be trained for SOMETHING. Allowing them to be freely assigned after purchase would require some resources to actually develop the feature. And WG just saw no real benefit in investing these resources - they decided that just dumping such captains on the t1 of respective nation is good enough. Such a captain can be used on premium ships right away and trained for any other ship the same way you can train any other captain you'd want to transfer there. To put it simply - no, it's not WG being greedy, more like "lazy" if anything, unwilling to have their developers spend time (read: burn money) on developing a feature that has no effect beyond saving some doublons/eliteXP/retraining time for people who buy (or receive from a mission) a special captain. Also, from a practical point of view - if you want to buy a special captain, no might be a good time. In a week (after the upcoming 0.8.2 patch) we're going to have free respec+retraining for captains. So if you buy a captain and wait a week (or wait a week and then buy a captain) you're going to be able to circumvent the extra costs. Although it's this month's specific thing Thanks, that answer does make sense Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[DC_DK] hgbn_dk Players 3,370 posts 44,373 battles Report post #16 Posted March 21, 2019 6 hours ago, Ronchabale said: Say you purchase a 10p captain (John Doe, Victor Znamenski, Bert Dunkirk) in the armoury for dubloons. This captain is already specced to a tier 1 ship (Black Swan, Orlan, Eire) that you most likely never will play. First thing you have to do is re-spec him for more dubloons to some ship that you will use. Why not just sell him un-specced. Kind of like having to pay for ketchup when u buy a hot dog (is this WG being greedy) Why are you moaning about you have to use 200.000 credits 12500 elite commander xp to retrain that guy???? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[RODS] Ronchabale Players 3,002 posts 10,002 battles Report post #17 Posted March 21, 2019 2 minutes ago, hgbn_dk said: Why are you moaning about you have to use 200.000 credits 12500 elite commander xp to retrain that guy???? Buying a hot dog and having to pay for ketchup And I wasnt moaning, I was asking why it is like this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[DC_DK] hgbn_dk Players 3,370 posts 44,373 battles Report post #18 Posted March 21, 2019 1 minute ago, Ronchabale said: Buying a hot dog and having to pay for ketchup And I wasnt moaning, I was asking why it is like this You're going to pay for ketchup for your fries at Mcdonnals.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[RODS] Ronchabale Players 3,002 posts 10,002 battles Report post #19 Posted March 21, 2019 Just now, hgbn_dk said: You're going to pay for ketchup for your fries at Mcdonnals.. Not in Sweden Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[DC_DK] hgbn_dk Players 3,370 posts 44,373 battles Report post #20 Posted March 21, 2019 3 minutes ago, Ronchabale said: Not in Sweden Here it normal... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[FIFO] ilhilh [FIFO] Beta Tester 2,451 posts 7,514 battles Report post #21 Posted March 21, 2019 4 minutes ago, Ronchabale said: Not in Sweden Not in UK either. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gustywinds Players 444 posts 5,582 battles Report post #22 Posted March 21, 2019 20 minutes ago, ilhilh said: Not in UK either. Wait 'til Brexit. You'l be paying for it then : 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BRITS] fallenkezef [BRITS] Players 1,788 posts 1,955 battles Report post #23 Posted March 21, 2019 200k silver for 50% then 10k elite captain exp for the second half. It's not rocket science 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[RODS] Ronchabale Players 3,002 posts 10,002 battles Report post #24 Posted March 21, 2019 46 minutes ago, fallenkezef said: 200k silver for 50% then 10k elite captain exp for the second half. It's not rocket science I was aware of that when I made the post. I stated that it is strange that u can buy a captain that is pre-specced to a ship u will never use. I wanted to know why ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BRITS] fallenkezef [BRITS] Players 1,788 posts 1,955 battles Report post #25 Posted March 21, 2019 12 minutes ago, Ronchabale said: I was aware of that when I made the post. I stated that it is strange that u can buy a captain that is pre-specced to a ship u will never use. I wanted to know why ? You REALLY can' figure i out? Ok, let's take the US, there are four valid lines for the special captain, BB, CL, CA and DD. He has to be specced for something which one, the T4 BB, the T7 DD? Also it's viable that a person buys the captain to start new line. It's best to have each one specced for the T1 of the line, it's not [edited]rocket science 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
