[BBMM] BLUB__BLUB [BBMM] Players 8,818 posts 17,199 battles Report post #1 Posted March 13, 2019 Might have crossed the mind of some (either hate or love) but sooner or later we'll get them. So... what would you like (or hate) in a premium aircraft carrier? I'm thinking of this one: .... as it doesn't get any more famous than the Ark Royal. Also, I think it should be T6 - else it will never face the Bismarck, which we can't allow to happen. Also, it should have Swordfish TORPEDO BOMBERS instead of them being HE-divebombers. Maybe it should have more than the usual TWO torps at T6 though, let's say three or four planes per attack (to compensate for the slow planes). It will be quite good against island campers... especially if you can drop those torps from far away AND from short range. Note that she had a big hangar and a lot of Swordfish could be housed (as they'll be dropping like flies no doubt). Away with the Skuas and Albacores though - even though she never had anything else in real life, get her some lend/lease unique planes. Else T6 might be a bit too hard... I suggest the P40 Kittyhawk which was a carrier-fighter, and a good bombing plane. Another option might be Sea Hurricanes (they carried rockets) - maybe even Seafires is also an option, though they were ~ 1943 onward. But hey, it's an arcade game, and when having a premium legendary CV might as well have legendary planes too. As a 'special consumable' (after all, it is a premium) a reconnaissance plane might be an option - Ark Royal had Supermarine Walrus. What do you guys think? 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[PUPSI] Klopirat Freibeuter 15,160 posts Report post #2 Posted March 13, 2019 Vor 8 Minuten, BLUB__BLUB sagte: but sooner or later we'll get them. "more sooner" I'd guess, since a premium British tier VIII CV was already shown by the CCs... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BRITS] fallenkezef [BRITS] Players 1,788 posts 1,955 battles Report post #3 Posted March 13, 2019 We never used the P40 as a carrier plane (neither did anyone else asfaik, dunno where you got that from). The Seafires are on the T8 carrier but the Sea Hurricanes are on the current T6. I would love to see the Arc but what's the point with the current rework crap? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[R7S] lovelacebeer Players 4,158 posts 25,226 battles Report post #4 Posted March 13, 2019 They will certainly release The Ark as a premium in time and probably as a tier 6 considering we already know we are getting a tier 8 premium. All that WG will do is wait for the current hype to die down and then release her knowing such a famous ship will be popular. As for loadout I'm really not sure the selection of planes across the rework is rather bizarre usually based around tier rather than historical accuracy. Still it's a pity I was looking forward to The Ark's arrival (and I'm certain it will come) but since the rework unless somehow CV suddenly becomes interesting to play again I just don't care what they give her. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BBMM] BLUB__BLUB [BBMM] Players 8,818 posts 17,199 battles Report post #5 Posted March 13, 2019 1 minute ago, fallenkezef said: We never used the P40 as a carrier plane (neither did anyone else asfaik, dunno where you got that from). Well... the Brits got the P40 as a lend-lease, and certainly they could fly off carriers... the Brits and Yanks transported them to Malta this way. Brewster Buffalo would be good too, but we already have them in game. See: http://aviacaoemfloripa.blogspot.com/2011/02/curtiss-p-40-em-porta-avioes.html 1 minute ago, fallenkezef said: The Seafires are on the T8 carrier but the Sea Hurricanes are on the current T6. Yeah, Seafires might be a bit too much. Hurricanes are already in game at T6 indeed, and they were available with rockets. Main thing is I'd like the SWORDFISH to have torpedoes and not HE bombs, and to put different planes on than on other CVs. I know they can't be Seafires - but something else might serve as well and make it more 'special'. AFAIK though the Hawker Fury/Tempest was never a seaplane, and the Sea Fury is definitely too 'new'. 1 minute ago, fallenkezef said: I would love to see the Arc but what's the point with the current rework crap? I'm quite enjoying the carriers, maybe you're not - but I suppose they do the premiums AFTER the cr4p has passed the fan, so to speak. A premium T8 CV I have seen already but it would be no use for operations, I also doubt if it would be usable as a 'trainer' (if you have T8... then what do you want to train for). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[DC_DK] hgbn_dk Players 3,370 posts 44,373 battles Report post #6 Posted March 13, 2019 If you have seen any P-40 on a carrier its only because it was transported by such. P-40 was solely a land based aircraft Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BBMM] BLUB__BLUB [BBMM] Players 8,818 posts 17,199 battles Report post #7 Posted March 13, 2019 4 minutes ago, lovelacebeer said: They will certainly release The Ark as a premium in time and probably as a tier 6 considering we already know we are getting a tier 8 premium. All that WG will do is wait for the current hype to die down and then release her knowing such a famous ship will be popular. I know. Maybe we should 'help'them a bit by telling what we'd like. 4 minutes ago, lovelacebeer said: As for loadout I'm really not sure the selection of planes across the rework is rather bizarre usually based around tier rather than historical accuracy. Yes, it is why I 'dare' suggest the P40. But seriously, by using a different plane type they can balance that without considering other CVs that have the type. 4 minutes ago, lovelacebeer said: Still it's a pity I was looking forward to The Ark's arrival (and I'm certain it will come) but since the rework unless somehow CV suddenly becomes interesting to play again I just don't care what they give her. I find it entertaining... so far. Getting T8 in a T6 CV sucks, but hey, it also sucks heaps getting T8 when I am in Leander... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[DC_DK] hgbn_dk Players 3,370 posts 44,373 battles Report post #8 Posted March 13, 2019 They would not be able to land again on a CV.. No tail hooks Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BBMM] BLUB__BLUB [BBMM] Players 8,818 posts 17,199 battles Report post #9 Posted March 13, 2019 36 minutes ago, hgbn_dk said: If you have seen any P-40 on a carrier its only because it was transported by such. P-40 was solely a land based aircraft I know... just that hey do not seem to much into historically correct stuff anyway. 33 minutes ago, hgbn_dk said: They would not be able to land again on a CV.. No tail hooks Well usually none of the planes return (all shot down) so no problem... Also the Ark Royal was the first RN CV with hooks and a steam catapult, I suppose before that they made landings as well. OK probably not with fast planes... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EmilyKing Players 279 posts 6,224 battles Report post #10 Posted March 13, 2019 nah. give us HMS Glorious and make it tier 6 so i can get into tier 7 games and be sunk along with the acasta on my team by gneis and premium scharns just the way history intended 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BBMM] BLUB__BLUB [BBMM] Players 8,818 posts 17,199 battles Report post #11 Posted March 13, 2019 Just now, EmilyKing said: nah. give us HMS Glorious and make it tier 6 so i can get into tier 7 games and be sunk along with the acasta on my team by gneis and premium scharns just the way history intended I suppose after the 'finishing' of the rework they will re-introduce T7 CV. And we can always reverse history... even if we have to resort to ramming. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EmilyKing Players 279 posts 6,224 battles Report post #12 Posted March 13, 2019 hey no. we're the british. we don't do winning, we do losing GLORIOUSLY 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CR33D] fumtu [CR33D] Players 3,842 posts 38,979 battles Report post #13 Posted March 13, 2019 Well WG will probably release Indomitable sometime after 0.8.2 and official release of RN CVs. I doubt you'll se Ark Royal any time soon. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BBMM] BLUB__BLUB [BBMM] Players 8,818 posts 17,199 battles Report post #14 Posted March 13, 2019 17 minutes ago, fumtu said: Well WG will probably release Indomitable sometime after 0.8.2 and official release of RN CVs. I doubt you'll se Ark Royal any time soon. Well, nevertheless let's give them some ideas, before they start researching their own... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[POPPY] Chaos_Umbra [POPPY] Players 1,662 posts 20,300 battles Report post #15 Posted March 13, 2019 Ark Royal would have worked great as a T7 CV... oh wait WG removed CVs from odd tiers... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jss78 Players 1,292 posts 12,866 battles Report post #16 Posted March 13, 2019 1 hour ago, Chaos_Umbra said: Ark Royal would have worked great as a T7 CV... oh wait WG removed CVs from odd tiers... You could still easily put her in T6, as she's a relatively early fleet carrier, and you can basically choose a plane loadout that's appropriate at T6. Similarly, I'd love to see the USS Saratoga CV-3 as a T6 premium, with an earlier loadout compared to the tech-tree T8 Lexington. Basically a big, mid-30s carrier with tons of biplanes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TORAZ] El2aZeR Beta Tester 15,786 posts 26,801 battles Report post #17 Posted March 13, 2019 Hornet with B-25s when? 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EmilyKing Players 279 posts 6,224 battles Report post #18 Posted March 13, 2019 what if..... WG took odd tier CVs out... so they could put them back into the game as premiums Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[B0TS] philjd Beta Tester 1,806 posts 7,738 battles Report post #19 Posted March 14, 2019 14 hours ago, El2aZeR said: Hornet with B-25s when? But wouldn't that be the equivalent of Kamikaze planes, a one way, single strike mission - as the B-25's flew on the Russia to land, not being able to land back onto Hornet ;) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TORAZ] El2aZeR Beta Tester 15,786 posts 26,801 battles Report post #20 Posted March 14, 2019 1 minute ago, philjd said: But wouldn't that be the equivalent of Kamikaze planes, a one way, single strike mission - as the B-25's flew on the Russia to land, not being able to land back onto Hornet ;) Not like a lot of strike planes make it back nowadays anyway. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[PEZ] Yedwy Players 11,301 posts 39,586 battles Report post #21 Posted March 14, 2019 Wasnt it china they aimed for? 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[LO1] Tugnut Alpha Tester 1,552 posts 8,268 battles Report post #22 Posted March 14, 2019 41 minutes ago, Yedwy said: Wasnt it china they aimed for? I think it was russia to start with... but due to no direction signal and fuel problems, China was the best bet! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BRITS] fallenkezef [BRITS] Players 1,788 posts 1,955 battles Report post #23 Posted March 14, 2019 With some tweaking a British T6 prem could work with the stock load of the T8, Fireflies as fighters and such. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EmilyKing Players 279 posts 6,224 battles Report post #24 Posted March 14, 2019 1 hour ago, Tugnut said: I think it was russia to start with... but due to no direction signal and fuel problems, China was the best bet! pretty sure the plan was to head to china. the aircrews received some basic training in how to say "im an american airman" in mandarin so i would think that's always the plan. one did end up in russia though 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[P0RT] Admiral_H_Nelson Players 3,938 posts 23,206 battles Report post #25 Posted March 14, 2019 On 3/13/2019 at 11:35 AM, lovelacebeer said: They will certainly release The Ark as a premium in time and probably as a tier 6 considering we already know we are getting a tier 8 premium. You are right - that is what they SHOULD do. But WG have set a precedent already for having multiple British premiums of the same type on the same tier. i. Tier7 battleships: Hood, Nelson, Duke of York Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
