[KOKOS] MaxxyNL [KOKOS] Beta Tester, Players 3,418 posts 11,878 battles Report post #176 Posted December 24, 2015 Keep up the good work Captain Exustio Will you keep updating the comparison sheet in the future after new updates/patches? +1 given Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zathras_Grimm Players 1,438 posts Report post #177 Posted December 24, 2015 Thing is, It's after tier 5 where it begins to get interesting... After Minekaze, IJN Destroyers are all crap... T6 is the worse than Minekaze, except one tier higher. the rest of the Ships on higher tier are awful and useless. I'm sorry, but Minekaze will be the last DD i play from IJN DD line. I'm not gonna spend 90% of the time in battle sitting somewhere on the map and waiting for torp reload, or waiting for my guns to turn where i want them to. - sorry, but, that is just not how i envision having fun. Didn't get past the first page of the thread but totally agree with this statement. I play Minekaze and actually feel it is a good ship, if it needs a buff it would be a slight increase in guns as it is inevitable that with enemy DDs, Spotter planes, Fighter planes and CV planes, you will be spotted and with the worst armour (DDs in general) and poor guns it can be a quick game over death sentence. Our guns are half of every other DD in the same Tier (13 to 26 on average). A rise to 18 might be nice. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EsaTuunanen Beta Tester 3,552 posts 8,863 battles Report post #178 Posted December 25, 2015 I play Minekaze and actually feel it is a good ship, if it needs a buff it would be a slight increase in guns as it is inevitable that with enemy DDs, Spotter planes, Fighter planes and CV planes, you will be spotted and with the worst armour (DDs in general) and poor guns it can be a quick game over death sentence. Our guns are half of every other DD in the same Tier (13 to 26 on average). A rise to 18 might be nice. Doesn't show in damage or win rate. In comparison USN DDs do miserably. http://maplesyrup.sweet.coocan.jp/wows/ranking/20151219/eu_week/average_ship.html Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zathras_Grimm Players 1,438 posts Report post #179 Posted December 25, 2015 Doesn't show in damage or win rate. In comparison USN DDs do miserably. http://maplesyrup.sweet.coocan.jp/wows/ranking/20151219/eu_week/average_ship.html Is that because IJN DDs are the only stealth DDs to play in game whereas all the other nation DDs are gunboats? This could lead to a wide spread of good players in the 'gunboats' but a concentrated collection of the good players in the IJN category. I expect damage in a IJN DD to be higher because it is the torpedo that does the damage (if they get through). Regarding win rate, well you can be crap but still be in a winning side. I do not feel either point you make really change the fact the IJN DDs have lower armour and guns (?) However your stats do question whether the change I mentioned would change 'the game' towards providing a bias to IJN DDs (my suggestion was in order to level the chances of surviving into the game if detected, not to give the IJN DDs an unfair advantage); this isn't my intention so appreciate your comments and the stats provided. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SCRUB] piritskenyer Players, Players, Sailing Hamster 3,462 posts 5,363 battles Report post #180 Posted December 27, 2015 Exu, Blyskawica is listed as T6 in the sheet, might want to put her to T7. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[KLLCV] Exustio Beta Tester 508 posts 5,264 battles Report post #181 Posted January 31, 2016 Moved thread to following: http://forum.worldofwarships.eu/index.php?/topic/42964-wows-comparison-sheets/page__pid__819807#entry819807 Updating 3 different threads is a pain Share this post Link to post Share on other sites