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It feels like the Kii AA is now worse than pre-rework, so I would appreciate a slightly buff. I wouldn't need Mino AA (even though pre-rework it was a bit like this). Just maybe a long range distance increase from 5.8 km to 6.2 km (or more) to make this ship a bit more special.

 

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3 hours ago, xXx_Blogis_xXx said:

kii had superior aa before rework , it cant be that bad now

Compared to the pre-rework, it feels bad. Just like a "okay aa-ship"

With more range it would feel somehow special

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Is’t Kii in the exact same position as ships pike Lolanta and PEF? All valuable AA is in long range, get through that and you’re safe

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1 hour ago, wilkatis_LV said:

Is’t Kii in the exact same position as ships pike Lolanta and PEF? All valuable AA is in long range, get through that and you’re safe

Nope, Kii also has a sizeable compliment of 40mm as midrange, plus obligatory 25mm in shortrange.

 

AA base values are:

  • 17x3 25mm, 0.1-1.9km, 310 continuous dps @66% hit propability
  • 16x2 40mm, 1.9-3.5km, 9 flakbursts, 809 flakburst dps and 369 continuous dps @71% hit propability
  • 8x2 100mm, 3,5-5,8km, 8 flakbursts, 1323 flakburst dps and 260 continuous dps @71% hit propability
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3 hours ago, Aotearas said:

Nope, Kii also has a sizeable compliment of 40mm as midrange, plus obligatory 25mm in shortrange.

 

AA base values are:

  • 17x3 25mm, 0.1-1.9km, 310 continuous dps @66% hit propability
  • 16x2 40mm, 1.9-3.5km, 9 flakbursts, 809 flakburst dps and 369 continuous dps @71% hit propability
  • 8x2 100mm, 3,5-5,8km, 8 flakbursts, 1323 flakburst dps and 260 continuous dps @71% hit propability

Oh, then... how is that bad? Those seem to be decent numbers for it :cap_hmm:

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35 minutes ago, wilkatis_LV said:

Oh, then... how is that bad? Those seem to be decent numbers for it :cap_hmm:

That ship had AA like a T10 ship before rework (AA rating was at 100) ;D

Now it's just like another T8 AA ship and feels not really strong. It feels weaker than a T8 US BB somehow. When I play CV, I have no issues to drop a Kii

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YEah, AA numbers are arbitrary now, much more related to tier than anything else.

 

A much more obvious case can be made for the Friant (Tier III French Cruiser) and the Emile Bertin (Tier V French Cruiser).

 

The former has 4 90mm cannons of the Model 1926, and the Tier V ship has only 2 mounts of the same gun. Half that amount.

Yet, the Emile Bertin has 11 AA DPS and the Friant 13 AA DPS (instead of 22). It gets even crazier with the flak burst: the Emile Bertin has one of 420. 

The Friant has one of 210.

 

How the !#$% does that make any sense?

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I look at my Yamato's AA compared to before 8.x.x and I cry.

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