[SHAD] Miscommunication_dept Players 5,512 posts 24,438 battles Report post #1 Posted February 28, 2019 I've noticed this ship doesn't seem to earn credits in the way most high tier premiums do. OK games yield 200-300,000 and the most I have received is 650,000. On the Jean Bart I would usually get 400-800,000 with occasional games getting a million. Is it just me that has noticed this or am I mistaken? Thanks 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[GULLY] tadaMonika Players 216 posts 4,726 battles Report post #2 Posted February 28, 2019 I've gotten over 700k for a loss. Ofc I had some credit flags on it. Does seem to earn as much as the other TIX premiums (aside from Missouri) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[THESO] SV_Kompresor Beta Tester, Players, In AlfaTesters 5,868 posts Report post #3 Posted February 28, 2019 I've noticed the same yes... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Floofz ∞ Players 1,246 posts 7,392 battles Report post #4 Posted February 28, 2019 12 minutes ago, tadaMonika said: I've gotten over 700k for a loss. Ofc I had some credit flags on it. Does seem to earn as much as the other TIX premiums (aside from Missouri) You dont earn less credits for a loss in WoWs thou. And Ive always been stating that all tier 9 premiums including Missouri has the exact same credit earnings. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-SBG-] ColonelPete Players 38,559 posts 19,178 battles Report post #5 Posted February 28, 2019 13 minutes ago, AdmiralDing3Ling said: And Ive always been stating that all tier 9 premiums including Missouri has the exact same credit earnings. Missouri was proven to have a higher multiplier. Players tested this. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Floofz ∞ Players 1,246 posts 7,392 battles Report post #6 Posted February 28, 2019 Just now, ColonelPete said: Missouri was proven to have a higher multiplier. Players tested this. Ive seen those tests and I dont agree with how they were performed 1 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DJ_Die Players 930 posts 9,329 battles Report post #7 Posted February 28, 2019 Just now, AdmiralDing3Ling said: Ive seen those tests and I dont agree with how they were performed They are right nonetheless. Thats one of the reasons why MO was removed in the first place. Besides anyone who has both the MO and another T9 prem can see the MO earns a lot more. 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-SBG-] ColonelPete Players 38,559 posts 19,178 battles Report post #8 Posted February 28, 2019 4 minutes ago, AdmiralDing3Ling said: Ive seen those tests and I dont agree with how they were performed Then make your own tests and proof them wrong. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[PEZ] Yedwy Players 11,301 posts 39,586 battles Report post #9 Posted February 28, 2019 IDK i got alaska as soon as update went live and played several battles, income seems quite fine Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Floofz ∞ Players 1,246 posts 7,392 battles Report post #10 Posted February 28, 2019 2 minutes ago, ColonelPete said: Then make your own tests and proof them wrong. That is impossible. Youd have to have identical games with the same damage to the same targets in order to compare it. That is why I dont buy the validity of those tests. Thing is I have every single T9 premium ship ever released in this game. If you run them all stock with no flags or camo modifiers they all earn similar values. I think the main reason why this Missouri myth started was because it earned WAY more than T8s did, and it still does, when it was released. But now theres so many other T9s premiums that does just as well. A big reason why Missouri also seem to earn more is because it has radar, and that tends to mean it does a lot of damage to DDs. 20k damage to a T10 DD is worth similar in terms of credits to 100k to a BB. That is why I also tend to earn good amounts with Krohnstadt, despite being absolutely awful in it. 1 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-SBG-] ColonelPete Players 38,559 posts 19,178 battles Report post #11 Posted February 28, 2019 2 minutes ago, AdmiralDing3Ling said: That is impossible. Youd have to have identical games with the same damage to the same targets in order to compare it. That is why I dont buy the validity of those tests. Thing is I have every single T9 premium ship ever released in this game. If you run them all stock with no flags or camo modifiers they all earn similar values. I think the main reason why this Missouri myth started was because it earned WAY more than T8s did, and it still does, when it was released. But now theres so many other T9s premiums that does just as well. A big reason why Missouri also seem to earn more is because it has radar, and that tends to mean it does a lot of damage to DDs. 20k damage to a T10 DD is worth similar in terms of credits to 100k to a BB. That is why I also tend to earn good amounts with Krohnstadt, despite being absolutely awful in it. Then do not claim stuff you cannot proof. 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Floofz ∞ Players 1,246 posts 7,392 battles Report post #12 Posted February 28, 2019 1 minute ago, ColonelPete said: Then do not claim stuff you cannot proof. I believe you are guilty of the same thing my dear sir. 3 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-SBG-] ColonelPete Players 38,559 posts 19,178 battles Report post #13 Posted February 28, 2019 6 minutes ago, AdmiralDing3Ling said: I believe you are guilty of the same thing my dear sir. Nope. You have seen the proof, you just do not believe it. 24 minutes ago, AdmiralDing3Ling said: Ive seen those tests and I dont agree with how they were performed 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[HOO] BeauNidl3 Players 2,192 posts Report post #14 Posted February 28, 2019 16 minutes ago, AdmiralDing3Ling said: That is impossible. Youd have to have identical games with the same damage to the same targets in order to compare it. That is why I dont buy the validity of those tests. Thing is I have every single T9 premium ship ever released in this game. If you run them all stock with no flags or camo modifiers they all earn similar values. I think the main reason why this Missouri myth started was because it earned WAY more than T8s did, and it still does, when it was released. But now theres so many other T9s premiums that does just as well. A big reason why Missouri also seem to earn more is because it has radar, and that tends to mean it does a lot of damage to DDs. 20k damage to a T10 DD is worth similar in terms of credits to 100k to a BB. That is why I also tend to earn good amounts with Krohnstadt, despite being absolutely awful in it. It's NOT impossible, simply take a reasonable number (20 at the least, 50+ to be better) games with roughly the same XP per game (few hundred different at most) and plot the credit earnings in comparable battles. The XP formula is fixed and we know that the credit earnings are tied to the XP gained. Not at all tricky to work out the approximate credit earning potentials with a reasonable level of confidence, especially with multiple results. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DJ_Die Players 930 posts 9,329 battles Report post #15 Posted February 28, 2019 8 minutes ago, BeauNidl3 said: It's NOT impossible, simply take a reasonable number (20 at the least, 50+ to be better) games with roughly the same XP per game (few hundred different at most) and plot the credit earnings in comparable battles. The XP formula is fixed and we know that the credit earnings are tied to the XP gained. Not at all tricky to work out the approximate credit earning potentials with a reasonable level of confidence, especially with multiple results. Dont try and bring logic into this.... You know NOTHING! 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SHAD] Miscommunication_dept Players 5,512 posts 24,438 battles Report post #16 Posted February 28, 2019 I was under the impression that credit gains didn’t have a win/loss modifier? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DJ_Die Players 930 posts 9,329 battles Report post #17 Posted February 28, 2019 8 minutes ago, gopher31 said: I was under the impression that credit gains didn’t have a win/loss modifier? It does just like XP. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Floofz ∞ Players 1,246 posts 7,392 battles Report post #18 Posted February 28, 2019 22 minutes ago, BeauNidl3 said: It's NOT impossible, simply take a reasonable number (20 at the least, 50+ to be better) games with roughly the same XP per game (few hundred different at most) and plot the credit earnings in comparable battles. The XP formula is fixed and we know that the credit earnings are tied to the XP gained. Not at all tricky to work out the approximate credit earning potentials with a reasonable level of confidence, especially with multiple results. We know? No we dont know, thats completely false. Theres a number of things where XP and credits differ. Winning or Losing being the biggest thing. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Floofz ∞ Players 1,246 posts 7,392 battles Report post #19 Posted February 28, 2019 1 minute ago, DJ_Die said: It does just like XP. No it doesnt 1 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[HOO] BeauNidl3 Players 2,192 posts Report post #20 Posted February 28, 2019 12 minutes ago, DJ_Die said: Dont try and bring logic into this.... You know NOTHING! Sorry, you're absolutely right, I can't have proven he has no clue on how basic mathematics works. Hell at a push even using Excel is beyond me, when I work out my project budgets for clients. 10 minutes ago, gopher31 said: I was under the impression that credit gains didn’t have a win/loss modifier? XP has a win/loss modifier of +50% if my memory is about right and credit earnings are tied to XP. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Humorpalanta ∞ Players 2,025 posts 13,785 battles Report post #21 Posted February 28, 2019 7 minutes ago, AdmiralDing3Ling said: No it doesnt Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DJ_Die Players 930 posts 9,329 battles Report post #22 Posted February 28, 2019 9 minutes ago, BeauNidl3 said: Sorry, you're absolutely right, I can't have proven he has no clue on how basic mathematics works. Hell at a push even using Excel is beyond me, when I work out my project budgets for clients. Damn right. Real men dont use Excel and dont care about silly things like budgets, they simply make the money last FULL STOP! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[HOO] BeauNidl3 Players 2,192 posts Report post #23 Posted February 28, 2019 I thought the movie Idiocracy was made as a warning, not as a life style guide for @AdmiralDing3Ling, guess I was wrong about that too. 1 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Floofz ∞ Players 1,246 posts 7,392 battles Report post #24 Posted February 28, 2019 Aah the forums, where people go to insults when they cant prove their point. Show me where it says that credit earnings directly follows xp gain. Cause if that is the case I have quite a few battle resultscreens that makes very little sense. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xXx_Blogis_xXx Alpha Tester, Players 5,335 posts 35,510 battles Report post #25 Posted February 28, 2019 its fine , did some games , 500-700k Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
