[KITEN] remenberMYname Players 653 posts 22,776 battles Report post #1 Posted February 28, 2019 do you think, that alaska will be similary powerfull? or because it is IX this is no thema. or do you thing stalingrad stays stand alone top, or later gets some opponent? 1 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[X-10] ___V_E_N_O_M___ Players 2,129 posts 14,292 battles Report post #2 Posted February 28, 2019 5 minutes ago, Milan_G_ said: do you think, that alaska will be similary powerfull? or because it is IX this is no thema. or do you thing stalingrad stays stand alone top, or later gets some opponent? Broadside I would say they are as weak as eachother although Grad has 50mm deck armour so less vulnerable to IFHE, but gun on gun. Stalingrad outperforms the Alaska both in penetration and accuracy. Alaska being a US ship has steeper trajectories than the grad since the shells are heavier. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[DEH] hellhound666 Beta Tester 1,978 posts Report post #3 Posted February 28, 2019 sorry but alaska dont have chance against stalingrad and it shouldn't ... it's t9. the real question is how it performs against kronni ... 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NWP] __Helmut_Kohl__ Beta Tester 4,156 posts 18,919 battles Report post #4 Posted February 28, 2019 6 minutes ago, hellhound666 said: sorry but alaska dont have chance against stalingrad and it shouldn't ... Not really - in a 1v1 brawl Alaska is superior because of the better AP angles. But overall Stalin is the better ship. Quote it's t9. the real question is how it performs against kronni ... Question is how it performs compared to Kron, yes. (1v1 brawl will always favor Alaska) 2 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[XTREM] Miragetank90 Players 2,626 posts 18,702 battles Report post #5 Posted February 28, 2019 Alaska Vs Kron is a better comparison. So far I'm liking the Kron much more, but we'll see Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[PEZ] valoaa Players 149 posts 12,526 battles Report post #6 Posted February 28, 2019 12 minutes ago, Milan_G_ said: or later gets some opponent? There is a Tier X IJN cruiser coming which is why the Azuma was moved down to tier IX, I envision this would rival Stalingrad in someway. However Stalingrad was marketed to be the ultimate ship for the ultimate struggle /effort in the game. (albeit before steel became slightly more accessible). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[PEZ] valoaa Players 149 posts 12,526 battles Report post #7 Posted February 28, 2019 2 minutes ago, __Helmut_Kohl__ said: Not really - in a 1v1 brawl Alaska is superior because of the better AP angles. Stalingrad also has enhanced AP pen angles. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NWP] __Helmut_Kohl__ Beta Tester 4,156 posts 18,919 battles Report post #8 Posted February 28, 2019 10 minutes ago, valoaa said: Stalingrad also has enhanced AP pen angles. I know that, I have both ships. The angles on Alaska are better and you really feel it. Why are there so many people who think Stalingrad has the same AP angles as USN Heavy Cruisers ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SHAD] Miscommunication_dept Players 5,512 posts 24,441 battles Report post #9 Posted February 28, 2019 Hmmm Alaska has better Citadel protection, in a close brawl Stalingrad would probably fail to hit it and overpen a little too much Alaska could hit Stalingrad's Citadel very frequently. In a close in brawl Alaska could win, in any other situation I can think of the Stalingrad would win. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xXx_Blogis_xXx Alpha Tester, Players 5,335 posts 35,510 battles Report post #10 Posted February 28, 2019 after few games alaska is nice brawl , ap and he both works good Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[DEH] hellhound666 Beta Tester 1,978 posts Report post #11 Posted February 28, 2019 19 minutes ago, __Helmut_Kohl__ said: Not really - in a 1v1 brawl Alaska is superior because of the better AP angles. But overall Stalin is the better ship. Question is how it performs compared to Kron, yes. (1v1 brawl will always favor Alaska) and how often that 1v1 brawl happens its question of how they handle in randoms Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NWP] __Helmut_Kohl__ Beta Tester 4,156 posts 18,919 battles Report post #12 Posted February 28, 2019 2 minutes ago, hellhound666 said: and how often that 1v1 brawl happens its question of how they handle in randoms Which is what I said. Thx for repeating that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[DEH] hellhound666 Beta Tester 1,978 posts Report post #13 Posted February 28, 2019 6 minutes ago, __Helmut_Kohl__ said: Which is what I said. Thx for repeating that. you're welcome Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-FF-] elblancogringo Players 1,207 posts 7,342 battles Report post #14 Posted February 28, 2019 Not sure about spending so much free xp for Alaska as I have Kronstadt already. Can some people who have both give some feedback about what they prefer in each of them? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DJ_Die Players 930 posts 9,329 battles Report post #15 Posted February 28, 2019 56 minutes ago, __Helmut_Kohl__ said: Why are there so many people who think Stalingrad has the same AP angles as USN Heavy Cruisers ? Because Stalingrad is extremely OP and has no weakness.... Dont you know that? It beats every single relevant ship in the game, some of them even TWICE!!! Having a Stalingrad on your team is an autowin unless the enemy has one more of their own. 2 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CG] Redcap375 Players 4,371 posts 15,295 battles Report post #16 Posted February 28, 2019 BalanceGrad is OP....... Alaska isnt... It's that simple. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CG] Redcap375 Players 4,371 posts 15,295 battles Report post #17 Posted February 28, 2019 1 hour ago, xXx_Blogis_xXx said: after few games alaska is nice brawl , ap and he both works good First game in Alaska and I like it. Everything shouts US flavour and another great support ship. Cits republics and Conqa so it's all good It's defo more balanced for a Battlecrusier, no doubt. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DJ_Die Players 930 posts 9,329 battles Report post #18 Posted February 28, 2019 6 minutes ago, Redcap375 said: BalanceGrad is OP....... Alaska isnt... It's that simple. How would you know? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[RO-RN] Animalul2012 Players 1,345 posts 21,361 battles Report post #19 Posted February 28, 2019 Why compare it with stalin? what is this obsession with stalingrad?? you still believe in russian bias? compare this thing with krontrash! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CG] Redcap375 Players 4,371 posts 15,295 battles Report post #20 Posted February 28, 2019 10 minutes ago, DJ_Die said: How would you know? No idea what-so-ever. Stalingrad U.S.S.R. 137 817 59.81 % 1.15 102 791 2 211 2.54 2.24 Worcester U.S.A. 911 694 51.50 % 0.83 70 880 1 718 3.12 1.56 Henri IV France 941 640 50.11 % 0.81 79 997 1 663 1.53 1.62 Des Moines U.S.A. 3 797 076 49.83 % 0.81 66 119 1 667 2.45 1.33 Moskva U.S.S.R. 1 968 757 49.73 % 0.72 71 082 1 582 1.43 1.27 Zao Japan 3 859 195 49.35 % 0.83 77 511 1 607 1.24 1.69 Minotaur U.K. 3 067 449 49.14 % 0.88 63 979 1 600 2.89 1.49 Hindenburg Germany 4 515 164 48.83 % 0.74 72 594 1 608 1.49 1.39 Salem U.S.A. 469 051 47.43 % 0.77 68 635 1 598 2.48 1.25 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CG] Redcap375 Players 4,371 posts 15,295 battles Report post #21 Posted February 28, 2019 10 minutes ago, Animalul2012 said: Why compare it with stalin? what is this obsession with stalingrad?? you still believe in russian bias? compare this thing with krontrash! Clan mate thinks if you have one, you don't really need the other (he has both). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-FF-] elblancogringo Players 1,207 posts 7,342 battles Report post #22 Posted February 28, 2019 36 minutes ago, Animalul2012 said: compare this thing with krontrash! Why so much hate? I find Kron is a very good ship 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DJ_Die Players 930 posts 9,329 battles Report post #23 Posted March 1, 2019 13 hours ago, Redcap375 said: No idea what-so-ever. Stalingrad U.S.S.R. 137 817 59.81 % 1.15 102 791 2 211 2.54 2.24 Worcester U.S.A. 911 694 51.50 % 0.83 70 880 1 718 3.12 1.56 Henri IV France 941 640 50.11 % 0.81 79 997 1 663 1.53 1.62 Des Moines U.S.A. 3 797 076 49.83 % 0.81 66 119 1 667 2.45 1.33 Moskva U.S.S.R. 1 968 757 49.73 % 0.72 71 082 1 582 1.43 1.27 Zao Japan 3 859 195 49.35 % 0.83 77 511 1 607 1.24 1.69 Minotaur U.K. 3 067 449 49.14 % 0.88 63 979 1 600 2.89 1.49 Hindenburg Germany 4 515 164 48.83 % 0.74 72 594 1 608 1.49 1.39 Salem U.S.A. 469 051 47.43 % 0.77 68 635 1 598 2.48 1.25 I see its stats have fallen quite a bit since plebs started getting them. Looks like its not an I-Win button after all. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[PEZ] Yedwy Players 11,301 posts 39,586 battles Report post #24 Posted March 1, 2019 Well personal look & feel - with grad you get more cits espetially on long ranges and hence is easyer to punish broadsides, alaska gets you more pens per salvo on average and delivers a bit more consistently, kron is even more broadisde dependand then grad but pays off nicely in cits as well however its also much softer with that 25mm plate Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OTECa1 Players 322 posts 9,766 battles Report post #25 Posted March 1, 2019 14 hours ago, Animalul2012 said: Why compare it with stalin? what is this obsession with stalingrad?? you still believe in russian bias? compare this thing with krontrash! I ask myself the same question... 14 hours ago, Redcap375 said: Clan mate thinks if you have one, you don't really need the other (he has both). The play-style maybe the same, but the ships are definitely not. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
