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do you think, that alaska will be similary powerfull? 

or  because it is IX this is no thema.

 

or do you thing stalingrad stays stand alone top,

or later gets some opponent?

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5 minutes ago, Milan_G_ said:

do you think, that alaska will be similary powerfull? 

or  because it is IX this is no thema.

 

or do you thing stalingrad stays stand alone top,

or later gets some opponent?

Broadside I would say they are as weak as eachother although Grad has 50mm deck armour so less vulnerable to IFHE, but gun on gun. Stalingrad outperforms the Alaska both in penetration and accuracy. Alaska being a US ship has steeper trajectories than the grad since the shells are heavier.

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sorry but alaska dont have chance against stalingrad and it shouldn't ... it's t9. the real question is how it performs against kronni ...

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6 minutes ago, hellhound666 said:

sorry but alaska dont have chance against stalingrad and it shouldn't ...

 

Not really - in a 1v1 brawl Alaska is superior because of the better AP angles.

But overall Stalin is the better ship.

 

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it's t9. the real question is how it performs against kronni ...

 

Question is how it performs compared to Kron, yes.

(1v1 brawl will always favor Alaska)

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Alaska Vs Kron is a better comparison. 

So far I'm liking the Kron much more, but we'll see

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12 minutes ago, Milan_G_ said:

or later gets some opponent?

 

There is a Tier X IJN cruiser coming which is why the Azuma was moved down to tier IX, I envision  this would rival Stalingrad in someway.

 

However Stalingrad was marketed to be the ultimate ship for the ultimate struggle /effort in the game. (albeit before steel became slightly more accessible).

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2 minutes ago, __Helmut_Kohl__ said:

 

Not really - in a 1v1 brawl Alaska is superior because of the better AP angles.

 

Stalingrad also has enhanced AP pen angles.

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10 minutes ago, valoaa said:

Stalingrad also has enhanced AP pen angles.

 

I know that, I have both ships.

 

The angles on Alaska are better and you really feel it.

 

Why are there so many people who think Stalingrad has the same AP angles as USN Heavy Cruisers ?

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Hmmm

Alaska has better Citadel protection, in a close brawl Stalingrad would probably fail to hit it and overpen a little too much

Alaska could hit Stalingrad's Citadel very frequently.

 

In a close in brawl Alaska could win, in any other situation I can think of the Stalingrad would win.

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19 minutes ago, __Helmut_Kohl__ said:

 

Not really - in a 1v1 brawl Alaska is superior because of the better AP angles.

But overall Stalin is the better ship.

 

 

Question is how it performs compared to Kron, yes.

(1v1 brawl will always favor Alaska)

and how often that 1v1 brawl happens

its question of how they handle in randoms

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2 minutes ago, hellhound666 said:

and how often that 1v1 brawl happens

its question of how they handle in randoms

 

Which is what I said. 

Thx for repeating that. 

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6 minutes ago, __Helmut_Kohl__ said:

 

Which is what I said. 

Thx for repeating that. 

you're welcome

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Not sure about spending so much free xp for Alaska as I have Kronstadt already. Can some people who have both give some feedback about what they prefer in each of them?

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56 minutes ago, __Helmut_Kohl__ said:

Why are there so many people who think Stalingrad has the same AP angles as USN Heavy Cruisers ?

Because Stalingrad is extremely OP and has no weakness.... Dont you know that? It beats every single relevant ship in the game, some of them even TWICE!!! Having a Stalingrad on your team is an autowin unless the enemy has one more of their own.

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1 hour ago, xXx_Blogis_xXx said:

after few games alaska is nice brawl , ap and he both works good

 

First game in Alaska and I like it.  Everything shouts US flavour and another great support ship.

 

Cits republics and Conqa so it's all good :cap_like:

 

It's defo more balanced for a Battlecrusier, no doubt.

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6 minutes ago, Redcap375 said:

BalanceGrad is OP.......

 

Alaska isnt...

 

It's that simple. :cap_tea:

How would you know? :Smile_hiding:

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Why compare it with stalin? what is this obsession with stalingrad?? you still believe in russian bias? compare this thing with krontrash!

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10 minutes ago, DJ_Die said:

How would you know? :Smile_hiding:

 

No idea what-so-ever. :cap_tea: 

 

Stalingrad U.S.S.R. 137 817 59.81 % 1.15 102 791 2 211 2.54 2.24 Worcester U.S.A. 911 694 51.50 % 0.83 70 880 1 718 3.12 1.56 Henri IV France 941 640 50.11 % 0.81 79 997 1 663 1.53 1.62 Des Moines U.S.A. 3 797 076 49.83 % 0.81 66 119 1 667 2.45 1.33 Moskva U.S.S.R. 1 968 757 49.73 % 0.72 71 082 1 582 1.43 1.27 Zao Japan 3 859 195 49.35 % 0.83 77 511 1 607 1.24 1.69 Minotaur U.K. 3 067 449 49.14 % 0.88 63 979 1 600 2.89 1.49 Hindenburg Germany 4 515 164 48.83 % 0.74 72 594 1 608 1.49 1.39 Salem U.S.A. 469 051 47.43 % 0.77 68 635 1 598 2.48 1.25

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10 minutes ago, Animalul2012 said:

Why compare it with stalin? what is this obsession with stalingrad?? you still believe in russian bias? compare this thing with krontrash!

 

Clan mate thinks if you have one, you don't really need the other (he has both). 

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36 minutes ago, Animalul2012 said:

compare this thing with krontrash!

Why so much hate? I find Kron is a very good ship

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13 hours ago, Redcap375 said:

 

No idea what-so-ever. :cap_tea: 

 

Stalingrad U.S.S.R. 137 817 59.81 % 1.15 102 791 2 211 2.54 2.24 Worcester U.S.A. 911 694 51.50 % 0.83 70 880 1 718 3.12 1.56 Henri IV France 941 640 50.11 % 0.81 79 997 1 663 1.53 1.62 Des Moines U.S.A. 3 797 076 49.83 % 0.81 66 119 1 667 2.45 1.33 Moskva U.S.S.R. 1 968 757 49.73 % 0.72 71 082 1 582 1.43 1.27 Zao Japan 3 859 195 49.35 % 0.83 77 511 1 607 1.24 1.69 Minotaur U.K. 3 067 449 49.14 % 0.88 63 979 1 600 2.89 1.49 Hindenburg Germany 4 515 164 48.83 % 0.74 72 594 1 608 1.49 1.39 Salem U.S.A. 469 051 47.43 % 0.77 68 635 1 598 2.48 1.25

I see its stats have fallen quite a bit since plebs started getting them. Looks like its not an I-Win button after all. 

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Well personal look & feel - with grad you get more cits espetially on long ranges and hence is easyer to punish broadsides, alaska gets you more pens per salvo on average and delivers a bit more consistently, kron is even more broadisde dependand then grad but pays off nicely in cits as well however its also much softer with that 25mm plate

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14 hours ago, Animalul2012 said:

Why compare it with stalin? what is this obsession with stalingrad?? you still believe in russian bias? compare this thing with krontrash!

I ask myself the same question... 

14 hours ago, Redcap375 said:

 

Clan mate thinks if you have one, you don't really need the other (he has both). 

The play-style maybe the same, but the ships are definitely not.

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