Update 0.8.1: British Squadrons

[rising_uk]

Wow! Just got T8 IJN CV and amazingly it's even worse here than the T6 as now up-tiered against T10. Basically can't do bugger all even if I wait to end to pick targets. Could do bugger all against a Khab who sunk me as the rocket planes are now next to useless against DD's. What a farce!

[LeGiry]

Uninstalled. Stutter fest since 8.1. I even reduced all settings to their utter lowest, I even capped my FPS at 30.  Still lags lags lags....  I know I run an old system, but it used to get by just fine.  Now even if I 'Z' to my own torpedoes it feels just like watching a replay file.

 

The stutters are most prominent with torpedoes approaching my ship and close quarters combat, but mostly torpedoes.

[2key4wn8]

I agree - The stutter and the lags since the update are utter BS and really get on my nerves.

 

But maybe my system is just too bad..... It can only run other games like the newest Metro on maxium settings with about 80 fps... oh wait....

[rising_uk]

LOL

 

Just noticed that I lost 41,000 silver in a Random game in T8 IJN CV on a standard account but even with a prem I'd still have lost 9,000 silver. So not only are the T8's pretty much shite in their MM and the XP they can earn they also cost me money. Good luck trying to get newbies to grind these. What a snafu and fubar these CV's are.

[Seinx]

Also a lot of game crash when battle ends before showing battle results.

[SaricizmeliMert]

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Please stick to the language of the forum section you are posting in.

[2key4wn8]

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[SaricizmeliMert]

[bondone]

2 hours ago, SaricizmeliMert said:

SNAFU !

[bondone]

On ‎3‎/‎2‎/‎2019 at 12:13 PM, rising_uk said:

LOL

 

Just noticed that I lost 41,000 silver in a Random game in T8 IJN CV on a standard account but even with a prem I'd still have lost 9,000 silver. So not only are the T8's pretty much shite in their MM and the XP they can earn they also cost me money. Good luck trying to get newbies to grind these. What a snafu and fubar these CV's are.

yep ! old RTS CVs 100% better . WOWPLANES ARCADE PLAY 1000% better . reading people's post ( some are funny)is now as good as playing the game , sorry to say ! 

[rising_uk]

Come on WG!

 

Do something about the nerf to the rocket planes. It's beyond ridiculous that I can be spotted and shot at by a DD without being able to shoot back. You have to be a bloody unicum with the reflexes of a 15 year-old to get a shot in. Doing multiple nerfs at the same time is a software testing joke as how will you know which was efficient, I can't believe you are so amateurish? Also, do something about that bloody stupid white sight as due to your delay nerf it doesn't do its job now! If I use it on a bow on BB the bloody sight doesn't go green until I'm at the stern!! wtf&ffs!!! You have made the lower tier CV's an absolute joke to grind and are actually costing me money on both standard and premium accounts at T8, I can understand losing money at T10 but T8!! This is an unfair situation as it doesn't happen to the newbies in ships.

[Bigeddie]

On ‎3‎/‎1‎/‎2019 at 10:07 PM, Shadeshot said:

Right so now i cant map move my CV while flying my squadrons? .... all that crew onboard a cv and they cant steer and launch planes at the same time? Why is it WG your patches get worse and worse, it was bad enough when 8.0 hit in the first place in the dogshite state it was in but you just keep on destroying the game. My respect for you is dropping more and more every patch and ive been playing this game since CBT. 

just use the strategic map and pre plot

 

[MRGTB]

I have early access and have been playing the Furious CV. A question though seeing as I don't plan to try and get early access to the Implacable CV after it at T8.

 

Any XP I earn now playing the Furious before it, when the Brit CV's finally go in the tech tree proper, does any XP earned now stay on the Furious carried across to be able to unlock the Implacable faster once early testing is over?

[MRGTB]

6 hours ago, rising_uk said:

Do something about the nerf to the rocket planes. It's beyond ridiculous that I can be spotted and shot at by a DD without being able to shoot back. You have to be a bloody unicum with the reflexes of a 15 year-old to get a shot in.

Noticed that also. Because you only spot DD at something like 2.2k range now, if you click arm rockets after spotting a DD you have flown past it by the time you can aim and shoot the rockets. You have to spot a DD then turn around and head back in its general direction and arm the rocket aiming before you actually spot the DD again and hope you can manoeuvre the cross on it in time before passing over it at close range once it pops up detected again.

[rising_uk]

27 minutes ago, MRGTB said:

Noticed that also. Because you only spot DD at something like 2.2k range now, if you click arm rockets after spotting a DD you have flown past it by the time you can aim and shoot the rockets. You have to spot a DD then turn around and head back in its general direction and arm the rocket aiming before you actually spot the DD again and hope you can manoeuvre the cross on it in time before passing over it at close range once it pops up detected again.

Yup! And the hell is that WG also nerfed the manoeuvrability whilst the sight is green so if on the run back you've guessed even slightly incorrectly where the DD might be and it pops up elsewhere you cannot move your plane enough to compensate and you just miss, plus if you click to early to compensate the bloody sight runs down and you're fubar'd again. It's seriously becoming a joke playing the T8 IJN CV as I'm losing silver pretty much every game and having very little fun or impact on the game. I've ground pretty much every line in WoWs and some of those ships were a real pain to play but I can't remember a poorer or less enjoyable experience than these T8 CVs.

[MRGTB]

To be honest I took the 4 point skill (Sight Stabilization) on Furious CV for better aiming and can still nail DD with rockets. Maybe that skill has something to do with making aiming better that you are missing. But do agree it still usually means making a second pass where the DD was and arming the rockets ready to fire before spotting it again. But do tend to get the rockets on target next time, but that might be a difference between playing the new Brit CV and the one you play using rocket planes.

 

But yes, you have to be on the ball ready once he pops up again to target him quickly. But I'm new to playing CV and have been doing pretty okay with it so far after getting more used to things.

[2key4wn8]

So you basically complain that you are not able to kill a DD which is activly dodging one handed while eating pizza?

What made you think you should be able to kill DDs easily?

 

What do you expect? To take 1/3 of the DDs HP with every drop/pass like it was before the rocket changes?

Was very fun and engaging for DDs..... losing 1/3 HP without any chance to counter it.......

[rising_uk]

51 minutes ago, Bruecki2938 said:

So you basically complain that you are not able to kill a DD which is activly dodging one handed while eating pizza?

What made you think you should be able to kill DDs easily?

 

What do you expect? To take 1/3 of the DDs HP with every drop/pass like it was before the rocket changes?

Was very fun and engaging for DDs..... losing 1/3 HP without any chance to counter it.......

No that's not what I'm saying. What I'm saying is that they've applied three nerfs at the same time and it now makes it nearly impossible to even hit a dd unless you have full point captain with perks. Have you played the lower CV's? It was never easy to hit a DD that knew about the WASD hack and how to use smoke. I understand that at the high tiers they've had to nerf them but the nerfs are being applied to all levels and at the lower levels it makes them a joke given the way the meta has changed. I don't know how your MM works but at T8 my CV is 8/10 always in a T10 game, like the one I just played where I got zero, that's 0 dmg and lost 60,000 silver for the pleasure. There were many things they could have done but to do them all at the same time is a joke. Put it this way, how would you feel about playing if when your DD spotted and got spotted you were unable to fire your guns for a minute but the enemy could shoot you?

[2key4wn8]

23 minutes ago, rising_uk said:

No that's not what I'm saying. What I'm saying is that they've applied three nerfs at the same time and it now makes it nearly impossible to even hit a dd unless you have full point captain with perks. Have you played the lower CV's? It was never easy to hit a DD that knew about the WASD hack and how to use smoke. I understand that at the high tiers they've had to nerf them but the nerfs are being applied to all levels and at the lower levels it makes them a joke given the way the meta has changed. I don't know how your MM works but at T8 my CV is 8/10 always in a T10 game, like the one I just played where I got zero, that's 0 dmg and lost 60,000 silver for the pleasure. There were many things they could have done but to do them all at the same time is a joke. Put it this way, how would you feel about playing if when your DD spotted and got spotted you were unable to fire your guns for a minute but the enemy could shoot you?

I can not comment on the low tier perspective of the CVs - maybe you are right there - I don't know, so I give you that.

But glad we are on the same page that at least on T10 playing a DD was no fun.

 

To be honest, I doubt you can ever balance this rework because how AA is "designed":

 

DDs have the lowest AA in general so you have make the planes in a way they still get hurt and after the 3rd pass got shot down by the DD or so BUT this automatically leads to "everything else beside a DD will SHRED the planes"

If you adjust the planes (HP and DMG wise) to the avg. level of AA of cruisers it automatically surrender DD AA useless as the DD AA cant keep up with that sort of AA and therfor will get rekt by planes again.

 

So quite frankly.... I don't have any idea how you can balance this mess without screwing things for one side.

[rising_uk]

I suspect you are right or at least it will take months and months to get it in any way balanced to meet the CV's and other classes wants and needs and for all this time those with premium accounts, etc, will effectively be paying for a beta product. Thank god my premium account ran out just before the 'rework' as this would truly annoy me. Although playing a standard account has reminded me how long the grind is and how clever the 'Free to Play' model is as you do get sucked into P2W or at least pay to not spend ages grinding the top models, I now understand why 'seal-clubbing' occurs as I pretty much don't play my T10's anymore as it just costs me silver a lot of the time.