[PASOK] PrimeCaptain Players 13 posts 28,075 battles Report post #2326 Posted April 13, 2020 i never say that it wasn't a correct or according to the rules, MM ... That's the rules and we play according to the rules 100% I just point something a lot of players complain about. WG can listen to the community or not. As i read 5years now ... they do it in some situations ... that's the reason i post. If i was a "little" offensive was because i got accused for playing tricks. Thank you for your time and for the chat ... doesn't matter if we agree or disagree on this mater. If its a fair game we are on the same side ! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-SBG-] ColonelPete Players 38,559 posts 19,178 battles Report post #2327 Posted April 13, 2020 53 minutes ago, PrimeCaptain said: According to your opinion ! ... Witch is the only correct i guess. According to YOUR WORDS!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[R3B3L] HystericalAccuracy Players 1,505 posts 40,425 battles Report post #2328 Posted April 13, 2020 1 hour ago, PrimeCaptain said: I feel Sorry for your attitude. You call others out for "attitude" while down-voting every opinion which doesn´t fit yours. Which so far happens to be almost every single answer. You tried to out-trick MM, it failed and you had to fight higher opponents. MM is purposely busted but its rules are known. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CDD] Dutchy_2019 Players 1,927 posts 13,486 battles Report post #2329 Posted April 13, 2020 On 4/13/2020 at 8:24 AM, ColonelPete said: But it is a difference. The difference seems to be that now every T4 game is a 2 CV game, at least on NA server. Something like 9 out or 10 games I played in T4 Kuma was a double CV game. Even on 9 per team squads. Which means that unless you A-line, you are pretty much consistently spotted. Sneaking up on opponents, almost impossible. If the two CV drivers decide to co-operate you are gone in a 4 strike cross drop. Just about every flight is able to get at least two strikes in, unless you decide to blob. If you are an uptiered T3, ALL strikes are guaranteed to come in. And at least half of the CV drivers are patently seal clubbers. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-SBG-] ColonelPete Players 38,559 posts 19,178 battles Report post #2330 Posted April 13, 2020 8 minutes ago, Dutchy_2019 said: The difference seems to be that now every T4 game is a 2 CV game, at least on NA server. Something like 9 out or 10 games I played in T4 Kuma was a double CV game. Even on 9 per team squads. And before it were also two CV games with frequent three CV games thrown in... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ImTryingButYouDontHelp Players 3,124 posts 23,045 battles Report post #2331 Posted April 13, 2020 Besides fail divisions, I think it's obvious for everybody that the "less than ten minutes battles" increased a lot lately. Call it, per example, "new players that can grind a line too fast" or "new players that can buy a tier IX-X too fast", but there is a real problem right now that makes the game less enjoyable. I still think that a WR or PR biased MM would work well, as the differences between players inside the 4-5 categories (not the same a 56% WR than a 60%, or a 50% than a 54%) would be sufficient to separate better players and would introduce more balance to the disastrous MM we have right now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-SBG-] ColonelPete Players 38,559 posts 19,178 battles Report post #2332 Posted April 13, 2020 21 minutes ago, Miblogdegolf said: Besides fail divisions, I think it's obvious for everybody that the "less than ten minutes battles" increased a lot lately. Not really. This was claimed also last year and statistical data did not show such a thing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[THESO] Excavatus [THESO] Moderator 4,705 posts 17,888 battles Report post #2333 Posted April 13, 2020 1 hour ago, PrimeCaptain said: I just point something a lot of players complain about. I've seen noone for years, not in WOT not in WoWs, to complain about, How fail divisions matched according to the higher tier part in that division.. Sorry mate, you are the first.. and sadly, I have to read almost every post been made around here.. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CHEFT] DFens_666 Players 13,162 posts 11,029 battles Report post #2334 Posted April 13, 2020 1 hour ago, PrimeCaptain said: i never say that it wasn't a correct or according to the rules, MM ... That's the rules and we play according to the rules 100% I just point something a lot of players complain about. WG can listen to the community or not. As i read 5years now ... they do it in some situations ... that's the reason i post. If i was a "little" offensive was because i got accused for playing tricks. Thank you for your time and for the chat ... doesn't matter if we agree or disagree on this mater. If its a fair game we are on the same side ! How about you make a thread with a poll asking, what people think about faildivision MM. See where it goes from there? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[THESO] Excavatus [THESO] Moderator 4,705 posts 17,888 battles Report post #2335 Posted April 13, 2020 1 hour ago, DFens_666 said: How about you make a thread with a poll asking, what people think about faildivision MM. See where it goes from there? I don't know about the result of that poll.. but I'm sure that it won't live long 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[PASOK] PrimeCaptain Players 13 posts 28,075 battles Report post #2336 Posted April 13, 2020 2 many WG "friends" against a player that said his opinion and received a humps down ! All of that because i said MM is BAD either division or single game, while adding 6 screenshots of 6 games ... in winch i was always the low tier ... You accuse me for fail division ... how about that ... So we have to feel sorry that 2 friends of mine with tier 7 and me with tier 8, trying to upgrade ship series. I said my opinion and i receive bullying ... so, there goes my relationship with forum. See ya in 5 years Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NKK2] epsxe Players 354 posts 3,795 battles Report post #2337 Posted April 13, 2020 Well, I think this is the first time I post here. English isnt my mother language so, firstly of all, sorry if there are sentences that arent understandable. Since WG do their magic for fixing the unfamous tier 8 MM (that one that all complain, I included, because many times you ended up in battles against T9 and T10 ships) the tier 6 and especially the tier 7 battles are less than enjoyable. Because in Tier 7 you have to face ships like Iowa, Jean Beart, Sov. Soyuz and Musashi. Not to mention to Alaskas and friends. With this situation, and if you have the bad luck (in many cases it will be) to have the potatoe team in your side, the battle is lost since the beggining and get blessed if RNG-sama at least let you to hit your shoots and you dont get all overpens or pens without damage. Is very frustrating this situation and constantly repeats in every battle I play. Yeah, you can check my numbers. Im just a less than normal player with a 50%WR and a poor PR. Dont know if the PR have something to do with the pairing with the MM, but in the beggining I certainly was a terrible player. I started to play with Japanese BBs because Yamato, and you can check that because the stats I have with them. I played up ocasionally but ended up to play as daily I can. I was stacked in a long time in a WR of 44% and ended up to got the 50% I have today. Sure, my numbers could be better, but I learn slow. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-SBG-] ColonelPete Players 38,559 posts 19,178 battles Report post #2338 Posted April 13, 2020 26 minutes ago, PrimeCaptain said: 2 many WG "friends" against a player that said his opinion and received a humps down ! All of that because i said MM is BAD either division or single game, while adding 6 screenshots of 6 games ... in winch i was always the low tier ... You accuse me for fail division ... how about that ... So we have to feel sorry that 2 friends of mine with tier 7 and me with tier 8, trying to upgrade ship series. I definitely do NOT feel sorry for you. How hard is it to just select a Tier VII ship to play with your friends? But your egoism is stronger than your reason and so you mess up and complain, because you do not feel responsible for your choice. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CHEFT] ForlornSailor Players 7,374 posts 11,735 battles Report post #2339 Posted April 13, 2020 23 minutes ago, PrimeCaptain said: You accuse me for fail division ... how about that ... So we have to feel sorry that 2 friends of mine with tier 7 and me with tier 8, trying to upgrade ship series. I said my opinion and i receive bullying Its not bullying, its not accusing. Among the community a division with different tier ships is simply called a "fail division". Thats not something, what we made up just now and only for you, the term is around as long as the game exists. And yes, if you do such a division, you have to suffer the negative consequences. We tried to explain to you with arguments and examples, why it HAS to be this way. Else it would be an easy way to abuse the matchmaking. I would fail division then all the time. Already now, there are some tricks around, which are questionable. Like you want to be save from a T10 CV? perfect, division with a T8 CV. And to make it clear once again: if the Matchmaker would protect a fail division from seeing +3 tier ships, then Ill do the following: take a T7 ship and 2 T8 ships - now the T8 ships are 100 % safe from T10 matchmaking, because you think, its wrong that matchmaker gives the T7 ships a +3 matchmaking. it can never ever work like that, it opens pandoras box for abusing !! 8 minutes ago, epsxe said: Since WG do their magic for fixing the unfamous tier 8 MM (that one that all complain, I included, because many times you ended up in battles against T9 and T10 ships) the tier 6 and especially the tier 7 battles are less than enjoyable. Thats is true. The changes to the matchmaker turned T7 from the most enjoyable tier to now pretty much the worst. The recent IFHE change, which hit T7 ships the most, doesnt help at all. I sent Helena with a farewell game one day before the patch to the eternal port. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-RDE-] humpty_1 Players 496 posts 40,980 battles Report post #2340 Posted April 13, 2020 wg says ranked battles and the rewards ppl get from them (what lvl they get) is a true show of the persons skill lvl. if this is true why put so many good vs low etc? oh by the way we lost, by a total walkover or moskva was on the boundary our dds were next to useless etc etc...lol Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CHEFT] DFens_666 Players 13,162 posts 11,029 battles Report post #2341 Posted April 13, 2020 11 minutes ago, humpty_1 said: wg says ranked battles and the rewards ppl get from them (what lvl they get) is a true show of the persons skill lvl. if this is true why put so many good vs low etc? Because its not true? All of them R1, while most of us dont care about playing ranked in the first place. R1 or no/low ranks doesnt tell you anything about skill. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SFH] siulis13 Players 92 posts 24,797 battles Report post #2342 Posted April 13, 2020 another super mm impvoving Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-SBG-] ColonelPete Players 38,559 posts 19,178 battles Report post #2343 Posted April 13, 2020 It is hardly the MM fault when you end up down there... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CHEFT] DFens_666 Players 13,162 posts 11,029 battles Report post #2344 Posted April 13, 2020 4 minutes ago, siulis13 said: another super mm impvoving You do know you are last by XP?... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NLKL] LazyVegetable Beta Tester 190 posts Report post #2345 Posted April 13, 2020 27 minutes ago, siulis13 said: another super mm impvoving I'm sorry but how is the MM at fault when you are in last place? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SFH] siulis13 Players 92 posts 24,797 battles Report post #2346 Posted April 13, 2020 14 minutes ago, LazyVegetable said: I'm sorry but how is the MM at fault when you are in last place? know i am second Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-SBG-] ColonelPete Players 38,559 posts 19,178 battles Report post #2347 Posted April 13, 2020 7 minutes ago, siulis13 said: know i am second Take a look at first place. Had you played like that, maybe it would have gone better. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NLKL] LazyVegetable Beta Tester 190 posts Report post #2348 Posted April 13, 2020 17 minutes ago, siulis13 said: know i am second I see a yueyang that performed quite well, do more like him and you might win more. Your performance in every game you've shown so far has been either average or below average. 9 minutes ago, ColonelPete said: Take a look at first place. Had you played like that, maybe it would have gone better. Careful, he might send you an angry PM like he sent to me. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SFH] siulis13 Players 92 posts 24,797 battles Report post #2349 Posted April 13, 2020 1 hour ago, LazyVegetable said: I see a yueyang that performed quite well, do more like him and you might win more. Your performance in every game you've shown so far has been either average or below average. Careful, he might send you an angry PM like he sent to me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[RAIN] GarrusBrutus Players 3,711 posts 12,535 battles Report post #2350 Posted April 13, 2020 1 hour ago, LazyVegetable said: Careful, he might send you an angry PM like he sent to me. He I got one too! Whoo hoo! Shall we create some sort of group? "Seldomly selfcritical Suilisists" we call ourselves. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
