[-SBG-] ColonelPete Players 38,559 posts 19,178 battles Report post #2301 Posted April 12, 2020 1 hour ago, 159Hunter said: A question though, does mm take number of battles into account? Yes, in a way. But only to Tier IV and a certain account level (battle number). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TF57] Fatal_Ramses Players 1,300 posts Report post #2302 Posted April 12, 2020 Thank you mm for giving the enemy team the CV with a veteran captain of 3000 battles with 50% WR. and giving me this: A naked, flagless, airport cosplaying potato Lexy. *edit Fine, wr-based mm wont work in wows, but atleast put some kind of modifier on CV class. Its damn sad when you can see from the line up that your team is screwed cause of your CV. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[PASOK] PrimeCaptain Players 13 posts 28,075 battles Report post #2303 Posted April 12, 2020 WG has real issues with MM, Look at the 2 games above ... Can't even create a game with 12vs12 players ... You can imagine what a Tier X CV do to a Tier 7 or 9 DD and Cruiser .... :D This really sucks 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-SBG-] ColonelPete Players 38,559 posts 19,178 battles Report post #2304 Posted April 12, 2020 2 minutes ago, PrimeCaptain said: WG has real issues with MM, Can't even create a game with 12vs12 players ... You can imagine what a Tier X CV do to a Tier 7 or 9 DD and Cruiser .... :D This really sucks :( Then STOP making fail divisions! Your choice, your consequences! 13k battles and still not taking responsibilty for your own actions. 4 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CHEFT] DFens_666 Players 13,162 posts 11,029 battles Report post #2305 Posted April 12, 2020 19 minutes ago, PrimeCaptain said: WG has real issues with MM, Look at the 2 games above ... Well deserved. for WG. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[PASOK] PrimeCaptain Players 13 posts 28,075 battles Report post #2306 Posted April 12, 2020 Divisions u say ... lol Even though i say ... why its bad for 3 players to make a division and have fun with Tier 4 , 5 etc ships ? Nothing is this answer ... But they CAN'T I was wondering if a smart guy will come to wave the finger ... Im glad u did ... see the new Screenshot ?? Where is the algorithm ? to fix the tier problem ... Start listening to players and stop waving the finger ... after 13K battle those problems had to be solved 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CHEFT] DFens_666 Players 13,162 posts 11,029 battles Report post #2307 Posted April 12, 2020 21 minutes ago, PrimeCaptain said: Even though i say ... why its bad for 3 players to make a division and have fun with Tier 4 , 5 etc ships ? Nothing is this answer ... But they CAN'T Because everyone taking a same tier ship is too much to ask? And not getting thrown under the bus? Its pretty obvious, you want to get into T7-9 or even T6-8 MM with your little "trick" Well, your trick aint working, so either accept that, or change your behaviour, its your call. Also your 3rd screenshot is T8 vs T9/10 which is perfectly possible. your first 2 screenshots only worked like that, because one of you took Öland while the others took T7 ships. Either take T7 OR T8 ships next time, problem solved. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CHEFT] ForlornSailor Players 7,374 posts 11,735 battles Report post #2308 Posted April 12, 2020 20 minutes ago, PrimeCaptain said: why its bad for 3 players to make a division and have fun with Tier 4 , 5 etc ships ? because you created a division with ships of different tiers. This will: - increase the chance, that you get into a match against ships of 3 tiers higher then your own (which happend to you) - makes the matchmaker create weird setups because its trying to find a match for you. (this happend to you aswell). For 5 mins, the matchmaker is looking for a similar division to match yours. It didnt find one, thus it instantly created a game. With less then 12 players and T10 ship. So. 23 minutes ago, PrimeCaptain said: those problems had to be solved Yes. Stop bringing ships of a different tier into one division. Everyone you showed on those 2 screens was your guys fault. We are not "pointing the finger" but trying to tell you WHY this happened. There is no fix to that. You think, a fix would be, to stop putting fail divisions into +3 tier games? Nice, you just create the perfect way to abose the matchmaking. Ill just take a Kutuzov and 2 Musashi and then expect T6 ships or what? Is that your idea of a fix? Nah, matchmaker worked EXACTLY like it should in your case. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CDD] Dutchy_2019 Players 1,927 posts 13,486 battles Report post #2309 Posted April 12, 2020 Well, allegedly MM was supposed to improve the CV hell in Tier 4; NEWSFLASH: It does NOT. Every game TWO T4 CV's. MM Should HARD cap CV's to max 1 in a game. None of the ships has ANY decent AA. Every drop gets AT LEAST two strikes in, unless you are in a T4 BB. It is outright criminal. And in T4, two CV matches, you are constantly spotted, cross dropped and killed. And SOMEHOW completely NEW players are supposed to enjoy this? WG, you are KILLING the enjoyment of the game. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SFH] siulis13 Players 92 posts 24,797 battles Report post #2310 Posted April 12, 2020 and still the same Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[114] AgentOrange114 [114] Beta Tester 7 posts Report post #2311 Posted April 12, 2020 I can honestly say that the MM has never been great, but since the last patch I have had the worst experience since closed beta - it's a joke and i'm inclined to just not play for a month(s) until it's fixed. Singularly or as a group i'm routinely (multiple different days, multiple different times of day - thanks to quarantine) i'm bottom tiered, which in a new tier VII vs 7-8 tier IX's is literally impossible. Please don't give me the "get gud" or "learn to play your ship/class/role" BS, i've been there and done that and idle comments like that are as valuable as the marketing BS that comes out of WG with it's "we've improved the MM now" statement. For the sake of the game and everyone's enjoyment (and therefore your bottom line) just fix it for god sake. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[PASOK] PrimeCaptain Players 13 posts 28,075 battles Report post #2312 Posted April 12, 2020 Yes trick .... So many Smart guys in here ... I Don't care if its a win Lets see one more time ... just finished a game with same ship ... OMG when the new algorithm gonna work ? ? ? ? ALWAYS LOWER TIER ... and u keep saying ... what ? At least ... no CV ... rare but sometimes good thinks happens How many games do i have to play ... ? 50 - 100 1000 ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CHEFT] ForlornSailor Players 7,374 posts 11,735 battles Report post #2313 Posted April 12, 2020 2 minutes ago, PrimeCaptain said: and u keep saying ... what ? Nothing. I just keep playing my Bismarck. Against T6 ships. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[PASOK] PrimeCaptain Players 13 posts 28,075 battles Report post #2314 Posted April 12, 2020 Maybe its my luck ... ... but it shouldn't be ... right ? ... trick you say ? ... lol Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
steveraptor Players 392 posts 3,934 battles Report post #2315 Posted April 12, 2020 Anyone noticed how common are 4 destroyers per team after the patch? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SFH] siulis13 Players 92 posts 24,797 battles Report post #2316 Posted April 12, 2020 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CHEFT] ForlornSailor Players 7,374 posts 11,735 battles Report post #2317 Posted April 12, 2020 5 minutes ago, steveraptor said: Anyone noticed how common are 4 destroyers per team after the patch? Yes, ofc. Because we have a new line of DDs in the game. Has nothing to do with matchmaking or changes to it - if thats your question. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-SBG-] ColonelPete Players 38,559 posts 19,178 battles Report post #2318 Posted April 13, 2020 2 hours ago, PrimeCaptain said: Divisions u say ... lol Even though i say ... why its bad for 3 players to make a division and have fun with Tier 4 , 5 etc ships ? Nothing is this answer ... But they CAN'T Nothing? If messing up your MM is nothing, why do you even complain in the first place? 1 hour ago, Dutchy_2019 said: Well, allegedly MM was supposed to improve the CV hell in Tier 4; NEWSFLASH: It does NOT. Every game TWO T4 CV's.... How is that not better than 3 CV? If it makes no difference to you, should WG change it back? 5 minutes ago, steveraptor said: Anyone noticed how common are 4 destroyers per team after the patch? You did notice that we had a DD patch? And no, DD are still rarer than BB and CA. Number of battles per week Tier VII+ 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[PASOK] PrimeCaptain Players 13 posts 28,075 battles Report post #2319 Posted April 13, 2020 2 minutes ago, ColonelPete said: Nothing? If messing up your MM is nothing, why do you even complain in the first place? If i didn't wrote it right, it's my poor English ... if you didn't get it, although u understand it, its your poor mind. There is nothing wrong for 3 players to team up and enjoy a game - 1 +1 tier ... is it clear now ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-SBG-] ColonelPete Players 38,559 posts 19,178 battles Report post #2320 Posted April 13, 2020 18 minutes ago, PrimeCaptain said: If i didn't wrote it right, it's my poor English ... if you didn't get it, although u understand it, its your poor mind. There is nothing wrong for 3 players to team up and enjoy a game - 1 +1 tier ... is it clear now ? When there is nothing wrong with that, stop complaining!! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CDD] Dutchy_2019 Players 1,927 posts 13,486 battles Report post #2321 Posted April 13, 2020 5 hours ago, ColonelPete said: How is that not better than 3 CV? If it makes no difference to you, should WG change it back? Little effective difference; you only die a few minutes later. ESPECIALLY when they pull this f-ing crap in a 9 vs 9 game. Every strike comes through, at least 3k damage on a T4 cruiser, disables the engine room and you are an f-ing sitting duck. Yay, back in port within THREE minutes. WG should hard cap CV's to 1. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-SBG-] ColonelPete Players 38,559 posts 19,178 battles Report post #2322 Posted April 13, 2020 But it is a difference. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[THESO] Excavatus [THESO] Moderator 4,705 posts 17,888 battles Report post #2323 Posted April 13, 2020 6 hours ago, PrimeCaptain said: There is nothing wrong for 3 players to team up and enjoy a game - 1 +1 tier and you expect MM to take the lower tier ship into the account when putting that division into a match.. then that way, people will have a way not to be bottom tier at all times... can't you see the problem in that? yes you can make an +1-1 tier division, but you have to accept, the -1 guy can see +3 tier opponents.. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[PASOK] PrimeCaptain Players 13 posts 28,075 battles Report post #2324 Posted April 13, 2020 8 hours ago, ColonelPete said: When there is nothing wrong with that, stop complaining!! According to your opinion ! ... Witch is the only correct i guess. I thought that here is a forum that players can ask or say their opinion about game problems ... I was mistaken. I feel Sorry for your attitude. No more post from me ... i hope (a tiny hope) WG sometime in future understand what players asking when they complain about MM, not to forget and the OP CV character. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CHEFT] DFens_666 Players 13,162 posts 11,029 battles Report post #2325 Posted April 13, 2020 21 minutes ago, PrimeCaptain said: According to your opinion ! ... Witch is the only correct i guess. uhm.. you do know he basicly has WG on his side, since thats how they programmed it? So he (or we) are right. This doesnt happen by accident. The rules of the MM are clearly stated, you make a fail division, you can get punished for it. End of story. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
