Matchmaker Discussion Thread & MM Balance

[GarrusBrutus]

44 minutes ago, siulis13 said:

no improves mm is a crap for long time and no one of the develop team listen us

In what way is mm bad? You play bad, you lose. Working as intended. 

[LazyVegetable]

Hurray for new matchmaker, I am now in a tier 10 game every single goddamn match.

 

Tier 8 ship, nothing but T10, this is worse than the previous patch.

 

Is this a joke?

 

Do you wants players to quit WG? Because this is how you get people to quit.

[LazyVegetable]

Same ship, 7 uptiers in a row. No more than 2-3 tier 8 ships per battle, fully T9 and T10.

 

What is this trash WG? This is so much worse than before the patch. The quality of everything went down HORRIBLY.

 

This really needs to be reverted, ASAP. This is beyond disgusting.

[x_Thoruz_x]

Yes the machtmaker works fine. In 5 games in a row 5 x DD.

2 clan groups A and B in the opposing team but in my team there are only randoms??

 

[DFens_666]

51 minutes ago, x_Thoruz_x said:

2 clan groups A and B in the opposing team but in my team there are only randoms??

 

Your team had a division aswell (ASGD clan) but they already quit the game before it was over so it wont show anymore.

[The_Stigs_wet_cousin]

This is it, pain threshold has been reached. Not playing anymore, MM is just absolutely effing terrible. Over 300 ships going to waste, have fun with the remaining players.

[Shadeshots]

This games current playerbase is the absolutey worse ive ever seen, How can people justify being as stupid as this playerbase? I understand its hard to MM balance when 99% of your players are trash anyway but WG you game is going down hill fast. I mean theres literally no fun to be had anymore just frustration, the playerbase has been getting worse and worse even before this bloody virus outbreak and tbh the game is pissing me off that much i hope this game complete get cucked just like world of warplanes did because that is what it deserves.

[Floofz]

On 4/8/2020 at 11:50 PM, GarrusBrutus said:

In what way is mm bad? You play bad, you lose. Working as intended. 

 

But that is not how it works. If you play well, get kills, cap or decap, do a lot of damage your other teammates will suicide and die one by one and you will lose.

Then the next game your team will roflstomp the enemy team so bad you barely have time to do anything and the result is a bad game.

You are completely at the mercy of the matchmaker and your personal skill has very little meaning in the outcome of the game nowadays and I feel its just getting worse.

I struggle to enjoy the game nowadays, I just dont have the games I used to.

[ColonelPete]

30 minutes ago, Floofz said:

 

But that is not how it works. If you play well, get kills, cap or decap, do a lot of damage your other teammates will suicide and die one by one and you will lose.

Then the next game your team will roflstomp the enemy team so bad you barely have time to do anything and the result is a bad game.

You are completely at the mercy of the matchmaker and your personal skill has very little meaning in the outcome of the game nowadays and I feel its just getting worse.

I struggle to enjoy the game nowadays, I just dont have the games I used to.

If that is the case, you can stay afk in the future and it will not change much. Good luck 

[DFens_666]

1 hour ago, Floofz said:

You are completely at the mercy of the matchmaker and your personal skill has very little meaning in the outcome of the game nowadays and I feel its just getting worse.

 

It certainly feels like, the amount of games which are just steamrolling into one direction are getting more frequent.

 

Last session from a couple of days ago

- 1kutu game was good and a win, the other was bad and a loss.

- 2 rather bad Bourg/Monarch games with a win

- 2 Good hindi/Musashi games with a loss.

 

So we have 3 games with "expected" results (good performance ending in a win, bad in a loss) but 4 games ending "wrong" so to say. Atleast the Musashi game was not winnable, and the Monarch game couldnt be lost.

[Purnylla]

Dear matchmaker, could you please not do this. I like to play coop with other human players, not with a team full of bots...

 

[siulis13]

On 4/9/2020 at 12:50 AM, GarrusBrutus said:

In what way is mm bad? You play bad, you lose. Working as intended. 

look the topic and see why mm sucks PAPARA

 

[DFens_666]

1 hour ago, Purnylla said:

Dear matchmaker, could you please not do this. I like to play coop with other human players, not with a team full of bots...

 

Leave the queue when you approach 30 secs (preferably leave by 25 sec) to avoid these situations.

[GarrusBrutus]

5 minutes ago, siulis13 said:

look the topic and see why mm sucks PAPARA

 

I think you have bigger problems than matchmaking. When a player fails at reaching 50% winrate at even the lowest tiers against the newest players......Yeah definitely because of matchmaking.

[siulis13]

19 hours ago, GarrusBrutus said:

I think you have bigger problems than matchmaking. When a player fails at reaching 50% winrate at even the lowest tiers against the newest players......Yeah definitely because of matchmaking.

maybe you need some brain to understand what topic and players said.or you get paid to said malakies papara

[Floofz]

Just FYI this is what rigged matchmaking looks like. A week of 60%+ WR and now I get nothing but steamroll defeats. This is what Ive been arguing all along, its not random its a pattern.

There is no gameplay in this game, there is no purpose or point. Its designed to make you think youre good and to make you angry.

[ColonelPete]

6 minutes ago, Floofz said:

Just FYI this is what rigged matchmaking looks like. A week of 60%+ WR and now I get nothing but steamroll defeats. This is what Ive been arguing all along, its not random its a pattern.

There is no gameplay in this game, there is no purpose or point. Its designed to make you think youre good and to make you angry.

And you stll think that every set of 10 games should end the same ...

 

Edit: I told you MONTHS!! ago to take a look at the Tiers you play 

[Floofz]

12 minutes ago, ColonelPete said:

And you stll think that every set of 10 games should end the same ...

 

Edit: I told you MONTHS!! ago to take a look at the Tiers you play 

 

Are you saying that I should be expecting to be in steamroll defeats because I play tier 10? My first two games today were both in tier 10 and both were unwinnable steamroll defeats. Yesterday I played two games where the first was also a tier 10 steamroll defeat.

 

You are completely bypassing the point with your wordspewing and it isnt helping anyone. What is it you want? What is your purpose?

[ColonelPete]

5 minutes ago, Floofz said:

 

Are you saying that I should be expecting to be in steamroll defeats because I play tier 10? My first two games today were both in tier 10 and both were unwinnable steamroll defeats. Yesterday I played two games where the first was also a tier 10 steamroll defeat.

 

You are completely bypassing the point with your wordspewing and it isnt helping anyone. What is it you want? What is your purpose?

I am saying you should finally recognize that high Tiers are more difficult and it is therefore harder to carry the team than in mid Tier and expecially low Tier.

Look at your WR per Tier. How hard is this to understand?

 

Call me naive, but I still have the small hope that you will understand the game and some basic statistic some day...

 

[Floofz]

5 minutes ago, ColonelPete said:

I am saying you should finally recognize that high Tiers are more difficult and it is therefore harder to carry the team than in mid Tier and expecially low Tier.

Look at your WR per Tier. How hard is this to understand?

 

Call me naive, but I still have the small hope that you will understand the game and some basic statistic some day...

 

 

So youre saying tier 8 and 9 games are VASTLY different to tier 10 games where tier 8 and 9 are also present?

No, I can show you the replays of today and you can tell me how you carry those games. The reason for why my WR is like that in tier 10 only is because litteraly ALL tier 10 games are complete roflstomps. Look at the WR per ship instead. Its not like I have an even distribution of WR per ship, I have tier 10 ships with above 60% WR and I have ships with a 30% WR. The result is a 49% WR.

 

See you look at statistics but you never understand why it looks like it does. It makes NO sense that the WR in these ships are so vastly different, especially not when my PR in them is fairly high, much higher than the WR would suggest.

[ColonelPete]

1 minute ago, Floofz said:

 

So youre saying tier 8 and 9 games are VASTLY different to tier 10 games where tier 8 and 9 are also present?

No, I can show you the replays of today and you can tell me how you carry those games. The reason for why my WR is like that in tier 10 only is because litteraly ALL tier 10 games are complete roflstomps. Look at the WR per ship instead.

Read what I wrote!

Tier VIII and IX are high Tier...

Your WR in Tier IX is your second lowest of all Tiers.

Your WR on Tier VIII is good, but still lower than Tier VI or the whole low Tier (I to IV).

 

4 minutes ago, Floofz said:

ts not like I have an even distribution of WR per ship, I have tier 10 ships with above 60% WR and I have ships with a 30% WR. The result is a 49% WR.

 

See you look at statistics but you never understand why it looks like it does. It makes NO sense that the WR in these ships are so vastly different, especially not when my PR in them is fairly high, much higher than the WR would suggest.

Says the one with no clue about statistics

 

Statistics 101: Look at the number of battles.

 

You do not have hundreds of battles in each high Tier ship. The ships that stand out have a low number of battles. What does that mean? It means that their WR is not statistical reprensative and is influenced by RNG.

I have high Tier ships with 100% winrating. Do you really think these 100% are represantive of my performance? Yes, they look nice, but they do not matter!

 

[Floofz]

3 minutes ago, ColonelPete said:

Read what I wrote!

Tier VIII and IX are high Tier...

Your WR in Tier IX is your second lowest of all Tiers.

Your WR on Tier VIII is good, but still lower than Tier VI or the whole low Tier (I to IV).

 

Says the one with no clue about statistics

 

Statistics 101: Look at the number of battles.

 

You do not have hundreds of battles in each high Tier ship. The ships that stand out have a low number of battles. What does that mean? It means that their WR is not statistical reprensative and is influenced by RNG.

I have high Tier ships with 100% winrating. Do you really think these 100% are represantive of my performance? Yes, they look nice, but they do not matter!

 

 

Theres a 5% difference in WR between tier 9 and 10, and a 9% WR difference between 8 and 10. And you want to make me believe that its all due to my personal skill? Dude are you religious? Just FYI ended up in another tier 10 game and yet again complete roflstomp, althou this time I was in the winning team.

[ColonelPete]

1 minute ago, Floofz said:

 

Theres a 5% difference in WR between tier 9 and 10, and a 9% WR difference between 8 and 10. And you want to make me believe that its all due to my personal skill? Dude are you religious?

No. I just know the game. And no, that is not only because of your skill, but also because of the different meta and the skill of other players.

But please explain to me why you think your performance on Tier I to IV is so much better. Are the players more skilled there?

 

Btw. my WR per Tier:

Feel free to look at other peoples stats. Maybe you will finally understand.

 

[Floofz]

11 minutes ago, ColonelPete said:

No. I just know the game. And no, that is not only because of your skill, but also because of the different meta and the skill of other players.

But please explain to me why you think your performance on Tier I to IV is so much better. Are the players more skilled there?

 

Btw. my WR per Tier:

Feel free to look at other peoples stats. Maybe you will finally understand.

 

 

No you dont, you just play in a lot of unicum divisions. Your stats are very similar to mine when comparing solo WR.

You have a WAY lower WR in tier 10 than all other tiers in solo gameplay. And so do I, because I play almost exclusivly solo.

 

If you want to use stats then use them correctly.

 

Oh and btw, my PR in tier 10 is much higher than yours, and so is my average damage.

 

 

[ColonelPete]

7 minutes ago, Floofz said:

No you dont, you just play in a lot of unicum divisions.

There is no WR unicum in my clan...

Division games are only around 8% my battles, you play relativly more in divisions than me...

 

Btw. you evaded my question about Tier I-IV.