Matchmaker Discussion Thread & MM Balance

[Wouter_Radix]

1 hour ago, __Helmut_Kohl__ said:

 

Your win rate in high tiers will get over 50% with more practice. You're just inexperienced yet, it's ok. 

Hahahaah... yeah... that must be it... :)

 

[Wouter_Radix]

1 hour ago, ColonelPete said:

• Game runs for over four years, hardly possible for a broken game, THAT is a fact
• Other peoples WR is stable or rising, mine included
• maybe you just got worse?

That must be it.. i get worse..... funny fact is that lots with me get worse...... they just dont take the efford to post on fora because they wanna play a game.

But this comments are so obvious...... thats what i mean with "purists.." :)

Your WR is stable... sure... but what about others???  i do listen to others and not just watch mine.... Do you???  look further than your nose??

But nvm... i knew this comment would come... Hope you all enjoy the game.. 

Have a goodone....

 

[Wouter_Radix]

1 hour ago, DFens_666 said:

 

https://wows-numbers.com/de/player/552853025,Wouter_Radix/

Based on your own stats, why do you think, you should win more games, especially at T9-10. You are just able to hang on at T5-8, but on T9-10, your performance is subpar at best.

You have 50k average damage with Republique, but meanwhile, your own ship has >90k HP! 50k is often not even enough for a TX Cruiser.

You are ranting about noobs, yet you are part of the problem. Your solution is: Give me super unicums all the time to carry my [edited]

If you read my post well you will see i do the hand in own pocket also.

Indeed for T10 its horrable.....agree... thatone isnt my favorite.

As  you have been looking at the stats you also will see that ship isnt played much??

Maybe i should take some lessons with you then.

If i play the t10 style???  hang back and do nothing just at the end kill the ships that others demaged that doesnt work......

Oh  and what is your profile?? so i can see how its played  woulld like to see that

 

Found it.. ty

 

 

[ForlornSailor]

4 minutes ago, Wouter_Radix said:

Oh  and what is your profile?? so i can see how its played  woulld like to see that

 

Found it.. ty

 

Backfired much?

 

Also, what do you feel when I mention the following word - Yaskaraxx

[ColonelPete]

8 minutes ago, Wouter_Radix said:

That must be it.. i get worse..... funny fact is that lots with me get worse...... they just dont take the efford to post on fora because they wanna play a game.

But this comments are so obvious...... thats what i mean with "purists.." :)

Your WR is stable... sure... but what about others???  i do listen to others and not just watch mine.... Do you???  look further than your nose??

But nvm... i knew this comment would come... Hope you all enjoy the game.. 

Have a goodone....

 

Playing one of the hardest DD lines, when you are an inexperienced DD player, is not the best idea.

Focussing on high Tier, while performing there worse than at mid Tier, is not the best idea.

Better to get more experience first. Taking a break did not help that.

 

A bit more self-reflection and you would have found that out yourself.

 

And yes, other players WR is stable too or even increasing. I have looked at enough profiles to know that.

[Wouter_Radix]

1 minute ago, ForlornSailor said:

 

Backfired much?

 

Also, what do you feel when I mention the following word - Yaskaraxx

dont feel anything...... not even know what that is.. :)

 

[DFens_666]

5 minutes ago, Wouter_Radix said:

As  you have been looking at the stats you also will see that ship isnt played much?? 

Maybe i should take some lessons with you then.

If i play the t10 style???  hang back and do nothing just at the end kill the ships that others demaged that doesnt work...... 

 

If you wanna play hightiers, you have to adapt your playstyle. It doesnt help, if the others camp in the back that you suicide. Then YOU lose the games aswell as any other noob player. I think thats the only option.

 

10 minutes ago, Wouter_Radix said:

Oh  and what is your profile?? so i can see how its played  woulld like to see that

https://wows-numbers.com/de/player/540423429,DFens_666/

[Wouter_Radix]

Just now, Wouter_Radix said:

dont feel anything...... not even know what that is.. :)

 

Ok  found it... obvious.... high player.

But... do you guys ever  and i mean ever realise not everybody is as good as you???lol

[Wouter_Radix]

1 minute ago, DFens_666 said:

 

If you wanna play hightiers, you have to adapt your playstyle. It doesnt help, if the others camp in the back that you suicide. Then YOU lose the games aswell as any other noob player. I think thats the only option.

 

https://wows-numbers.com/de/player/540423429,DFens_666/

Ty... did find it already... :)

 

[ColonelPete]

2 hours ago, Wouter_Radix said:

No matter what is said here... no matter what the purists say here... Fact is game is broken.

Fun fact: The game must be really broken when you decided 7k battles ago that you were done.

A game must be really broken when you spend around 80€ on it the last week.

Thank your for your contribution anyway

[DFens_666]

3 minutes ago, Wouter_Radix said:

But... do you guys ever  and i mean ever realise not everybody is as good as you???lol

 

Its mostly a thing if you wanna learn or not. If you do ->

- Make a thread and ask for advice (specific line/ship)

- Add replays from those ships so we can have a look at it and give advice. There are many people around here, who will help and give good advice how to improve your gameplay.

 

But thats up to you.

[Wouter_Radix]

3 minutes ago, ColonelPete said:

Fun fact: The game must be really broken when you decided 7k battles ago that you were done.

A game must be really broken when you spend around 80€ on it the last week.

Thank your for your contribution anyway

YW  somebody have to pay....

 

Its interesting. i get the comments here... and as i hear its me...

Maybe it is...

Then i get a name.. Yaskeraxx.... first didnt even know what/who that is/

Did google it..... what do i find???   treats of him... did find a verry interesting convo there with a Ferry... In Dutch even....

Looks like its not just me who have complaines about the game.. ;)

 

 

As i have to be honest about not being the best....... can you guys at least be honest that there is something wrong with the game?? Nah... guess not.....

But ok.. again i wish you guys fun... did spend to much time here already... think i go "practise"  

 

Have a good one

 

[__Helmut_Kohl__]

44 minutes ago, Wouter_Radix said:

As i have to be honest about not being the best....... can you guys at least be honest that there is something wrong with the game?? Nah... guess not.....

But ok.. again i wish you guys fun... did spend to much time here already... think i go "practise" 

 

A lot of stuff is wrong with the game, but as usual it's not what guys like you are raging about here on the forums.

 

Have fun at practice. 

[lossi_2018]

3 hours ago, Wouter_Radix said:

Ok  found it... obvious.... high player.

But... do you guys ever  and i mean ever realise not everybody is as good as you???lol

Dont compare 'Division Players' against those that play only solo. It is not fair or logical.

[ForlornSailor]

1 hour ago, lossi_2018 said:

Dont compare 'Division Players' against those that play only solo. It is not fair or logical.

 

Enlighten us.

[Bear__Necessities]

2 hours ago, lossi_2018 said:

6 hours ago, Wouter_Radix said:

Ok  found it... obvious.... high player.

But... do you guys ever  and i mean ever realise not everybody is as good as you???lol

Dont compare 'Division Players' against those that play only solo. It is not fair or logical.

So errrrr, what about those of us who play a lot of solo and still some how continue to improve?

 

My EU solo, notice the positive trends. https://wows-numbers.com/player/515014478,Bear__Necessities/?type=solo

 

My NA solo, hummmm, still pretty damn good. https://na.wows-numbers.com/player/1037541258,Toss_a_plus_1_to_your_CV/?type=solo

 

Means even playing solo you can get good results if you are willing to learn and put in effort. There is no WG boogey man out to get players. The only consistency in WoW's is the player themselves. 

[thisismalacoda]

Late night matchmaking where the enemy team aggregated is two levels above us (we had a T7, 7, 8 fail division) and our two dds in a T10 match are a T7 with 33% WR and a T8 with - I kid you not - 28% WR is completely [edited]unacceptable.

[Asakka]

Solo stats > Div stats 

 

 

[Ouzo11]

1)
-Increase number of players per side from 12 to 14. No more than 3 dds per side.
-Increase max points from 1000 to 1300
-Increase match time from 20' to 25'
This gives competent players a chance to salvage the match and not have it end in 10 freaking minutes.

2)
-Start taking into account ship wr on the mm and mirror it. A full team of 30-45% wr vs a team of 55% wr players is a joke.

-Cap ships that can rapid fire to 2 per side and mirror them. Think wooster, harugumo, smolensk etc.
 

And MAYBE you can make this game enjoyable again.
You majorly fucked up the balance after the introduction of harugumo and wooster and since then it is going only downhill.

 

 

 

 

[ColonelPete]

1 minute ago, Ouzo11 said:

1)
-Increase number of players per side from 12 to 14. No more than 3 dds per side.
-Increase max points from 1000 to 1300
-Increase match time from 20' to 25'
This gives competent players a chance to salvage the match and not have it end in 10 freaking minutes.

2)
-Start taking into account ship wr on the mm and mirror it. A full team of 30-45% wr vs a team of 55% wr players is a joke.

-Cap ships that can rapid fire to 2 per side and mirror them. Think wooster, harugumo, smolensk etc.
 

And MAYBE you can make this game enjoyable again.
You majorly fucked up the balance after the introduction of harugumo and wooster and since then it is going only downhill.

 

 

 

 

1. Competent players will then even have LESS influence on the outcome
2. As explained dozens of times, when implemented, this stops working quite quickly

You are still playing...

[Ouzo11]

Actually no, i am not still playing.
I keep coming back to check if they have solved any of their major issues and i see more issues, so i gtfo again because it is not worth my time.

What is the point of getting to tier 10 when the gameplay is crap there?
Tier 5 to 7 are way more fun and tactical than this high tier disaster.

 

[ColonelPete]

15 minutes ago, Ouzo11 said:

Actually no, i am not still playing.
I keep coming back to check if they have solved any of their major issues and i see more issues, so i gtfo again because it is not worth my time.

What is the point of getting to tier 10 when the gameplay is crap there?
Tier 5 to 7 are way more fun and tactical than this high tier disaster.

 

192 battles in the last 21 days...

 

Then play Tier V to VII.

[ForlornSailor]

32 minutes ago, Ouzo11 said:

-Start taking into account ship wr on the mm and mirror it. A full team of 30-45% wr vs a team of 55% wr players is a joke.

elaborate.

[Ouzo11]

2 minutes ago, ForlornSailor said:

elaborate.

Lets assume that a match has players with 30 to 60% win rate.
The main idea is to control the number of players on each skill range instead of throwing them all together based only on their ship types.
1/4 of each side should be sub 45% wr people in similar ships.
2/4s of each side should be 45-52% wr people in similar ships.
1/4 of each side, 52%+ wr

So, if a 30% player wants to play a dd, then put another 30-45% player in a dd in the opposite team.
If a 60% bb wants to join, then put a 60% wr bb against it.

Sure it is a lot of dev work and extra waiting time for the players to get into a match, but i would take quality over quantity any time.
 

7 minutes ago, ColonelPete said:

192 battles in the last 21 days...

 

Then play Tier V to VII.

That is your brilliant solution to a thing a shitload of people complain about?
Play t5 to t7? Really now?
So i should not grind for the tier 10s i want to play anymore?
Should i accept whatever i think is wrong and never speak against it?
This is a suggestions thread, not a "i dont like your opinion so gtfo thread"

[ColonelPete]

11 minutes ago, Ouzo11 said:

That is your brilliant solution to a thing a shitload of people complain about?
Play t5 to t7? Really now?
So i should not grind for the tier 10s i want to play anymore?
Should i accept whatever i think is wrong and never speak against it?
This is a suggestions thread, not a "i dont like your opinion so gtfo thread"

When you like chocolate, but not raisins, do you continue to eat raisins or stay with chocolate?

People like different things. When you do not like high Tier, do not play it. Simple as that.

 

And when you do not like raisins, it does not mean raisins are wrong, they are just different.

 

Btw. a shitload of people play high Tier.