Matchmaker Discussion Thread & MM Balance

[The_Stigs_wet_cousin]

On 2/27/2020 at 6:10 PM, humpty_1 said:

tier 10 mm this morning. all boats in the match are in the pic(random game)   loool

Yeah I've seen the same... 2 CVs per team in a T10 battle. So much about WG's information that T10 will only have a maximum of 1CV per team. Granted, doesn't happen often but it's quite obvious their code is faulty.

[ThePopesHolyFinger]

On 2/27/2020 at 7:51 AM, ColonelPete said:

Manipulating quotes does earn you even less brownie points.

I suggest you change that!

Yeah, my bad, sorry.
But on the plus side, you got to post edit* again.

 

edit: watch the language please

[Greek_Patriot]

Lob-sided games in WoWs? Nooooo get outta here. You must be mistaken. WG makes the best MM in online games guys. Come on! Hahahahahaha. Edited*

[Afghanicus]

I'm not one of those who record every game, keeps spreadsheets etc. but I'm 100% convinced that when you're a T8, you'll mostly face T9 & T10 but when you're T9, you won't have as many T10 games.

 

Did someone else notice the same because it doesn't make much MM sense to me.

 

Also, if I can check my last XX games with T8/T9, please let me know how to do that and I'll prove myself wrong if I'm just tripping even though I'm pretty sure that's how it is. At least from my experience.

 

P.S. I know everyone says "T8 is the worst for MM" but why though!? Why would you encounter more T10 ships being a T8 than being a T9!?

[Excavatus]

5 hours ago, Palubarac said:

Also, if I can check my last XX games with T8/T9, please let me know how to do that and I'll prove myself wrong if I'm just tripping even though I'm pretty sure that's how it is. At least from my experience.

There is a way to check them, but I don't think you'd love it :D

You can check your replays one by one.. by either opening them up, or uploading them to wows replays and checking the team screens.

that would be tedious.

 

If you ask me, you should record your next 100 games MM at tier 8,

just taking notes.

It can be true, It can be confirmaion bias.. I'm not saying either or neither.

 

[PabloGee]

2.03.2020 o 08:42, Excavatus napisał:

There is a way to check them, but I don't think you'd love it :D

You can check your replays one by one.. by either opening them up, or uploading them to wows replays and checking the team screens.

that would be tedious.

 

If you ask me, you should record your next 100 games MM at tier 8,

just taking notes.

It can be true, It can be confirmaion bias.. I'm not saying either or neither.

 

I tried 20 games Massachusets. 

1 Games top tier with tier 6

5 games with  tier 7 - 9 

14 games bottom tier including 2 - 3 VIII per side. Constant HE spam you are just HP bag

 

EZ game would spend  money 

[ColonelPete]

2 minutes ago, PabloGee said:

I tried 20 games Massachusets. 

1 Games top tier with tier 6

5 games with  tier 7 - 9 

14 games bottom tier including 2 - 3 VIII per side. Constant HE spam you are just HP bag

 

EZ game would spend  money 

That should not happen. Contact customer support with your findings.

[togMOR]

Am 2.3.2020 um 03:03, Palubarac sagte:

Also, if I can check my last XX games with T8/T9, please let me know how to do that and I'll prove myself wrong if I'm just tripping even though I'm pretty sure that's how it is. At least from my experience.

I can recommend the external tool MxStats for that very purpose.

It reads the games log files and you can sort and filter the data to your liking.

[Greek_Patriot]

6 hours ago, ColonelPete said:

That should not happen. Contact customer support with your findings.

Yes call customer support and they will fix the issue by answering (as always) about WoT hahaha. They dont care about you or anyone else except the select few acolytes. Simple as that..

[ColonelPete]

14 minutes ago, Greek_Patriot said:

Yes call customer support and they will fix the issue by answering (as always) about WoT hahaha. They dont care about you or anyone else except the select few acolytes. Simple as that..

You have to write the right ticket and bring good arguments. It is not their job to guess what went wrong. Detailed information helps a great deal.

[The_Stigs_wet_cousin]

WG, just keep deleting posts as you see fit. I don't care if you give me a "friendly reminder", as long as you guys screw up as bad as you do and apply per-player based MM. At least admit it and don't tell me it isn't so. It's much better to be open with the people that pay your salaries than trying to mislead them by shutting up. Absolutely terrible customer service, terrible communications but unfortunately a nice-looking game. But the pain threshold is now crossed for many players and they will move out, even in EU. Wonder what will come next, european uber-ships? BTW how do the IRN uber-ships work for the CIS server population?

[ColonelPete]

21 minutes ago, ArsenicIndigo said:

WG, just keep deleting posts as you see fit. I don't care if you give me a "friendly reminder", as long as you guys screw up as bad as you do and apply per-player based MM. At least admit it and don't tell me it isn't so. It's much better to be open with the people that pay your salaries than trying to mislead them by shutting up. Absolutely terrible customer service, terrible communications but unfortunately a nice-looking game. But the pain threshold is now crossed for many players and they will move out, even in EU. Wonder what will come next, european uber-ships? BTW how do the IRN uber-ships work for the CIS server population?

I tell you...

[Greek_Patriot]

56 minutes ago, ColonelPete said:

You have to write the right ticket and bring good arguments. It is not their job to guess what went wrong. Detailed information helps a great deal.

It doesnt matter what you write. The answer is always the same: Some BS about WoT! Every single time. They dont give a sh..t about the players. Only for their faithfull acolytes!

[Greek_Patriot]

46 minutes ago, ArsenicIndigo said:

WG, just keep deleting posts as you see fit. I don't care if you give me a "friendly reminder", as long as you guys screw up as bad as you do and apply per-player based MM. At least admit it and don't tell me it isn't so. It's much better to be open with the people that pay your salaries than trying to mislead them by shutting up. Absolutely terrible customer service, terrible communications but unfortunately a nice-looking game. But the pain threshold is now crossed for many players and they will move out, even in EU. Wonder what will come next, european uber-ships? BTW how do the IRN uber-ships work for the CIS server population?

Uber -ships? Hahahahahahahhaha!!!!  Bro dont give them ideas... Hahahhahaha! You said customer service? What service? Hahahaha

[ColonelPete]

6 hours ago, Greek_Patriot said:

It doesnt matter what you write. The answer is always the same: Some BS about WoT! Every single time. They dont give a sh..t about the players. Only for their faithfull acolytes!

I wrote around half a dozen tickets the past 4 years and did not get one answer about WoT...

Sure you did not click the wrong link?

[Nikolas______]

I've played 10 ranked battles today and I've lost every single one of them. My team kept losing 2 ships in the first 3 minutes on average. Thanks WG for the great matchmaking...

And then you want us to recruit new players for WoWs... To what end? So that they may keep losing as well due to your "great" matchmaking?

 It saddens me that I've wasted my time and money on you.

[Greek_Patriot]

8 hours ago, ColonelPete said:

I wrote around half a dozen tickets the past 4 years and did not get one answer about WoT...

Sure you did not click the wrong link?

No bro. almost all my tickets were answered with the same BS about WoT. They simply dont give a damn about doing their job right.

[Imsali]

1 hour ago, GR_nikolas_1966 said:

I've played 10 ranked battles today and I've lost every single one of them. My team kept losing 2 ships in the first 3 minutes on average. Thanks WG for the great matchmaking...

And then you want us to recruit new players for WoWs... To what end? So that they may keep losing as well due to your "great" matchmaking?

 It saddens me that I've wasted my time and money on you.

Same happened to me the past two days, so I quit ranked because no way I will grind back ranks for no benefit.

[Butterdoll]

 

[Nikolas______]

maybe is beter delete this game.......for this mm

 

[GarrusBrutus]

On 3/4/2020 at 8:20 PM, Butterdoll said:

 

[JohnnyAlphabet]

On 3/4/2020 at 1:19 PM, GR_nikolas_1966 said:

I've played 10 ranked battles today and I've lost every single one of them. My team kept losing 2 ships in the first 3 minutes on average. Thanks WG for the great matchmaking...

And then you want us to recruit new players for WoWs... To what end? So that they may keep losing as well due to your "great" matchmaking?

 It saddens me that I've wasted my time and money on you.

Matchmaking isn't skills based. Way too many people with either too few games at T10, or low WR are playing ranked. When 5 / 7 people on your team are at 45%WR or below, these kinds of ROFLstomps are no surprise. Arms race mode has made it worse as often the players don't seem to realise that collecting buffs not only like, 'buffs' your ships, but also has a direct impact on points early in the game.

Can't blame the MM for everything, but maybe for ranked it should be skills based.

[__Hercules_]

57 minutes ago, cmdr__nik said:

Matchmaking isn't skills based. Way too many people with either too few games at T10, or low WR are playing ranked. When 5 / 7 people on your team are at 45%WR or below, these kinds of ROFLstomps are no surprise. Arms race mode has made it worse as often the players don't seem to realise that collecting buffs not only like, 'buffs' your ships, but also has a direct impact on points early in the game.

Can't blame the MM for everything, but maybe for ranked it should be skills based.

 

I want all the matches would go afther winrate and how many matcher you have played and not only ship typs and tier so you get a 50/50 matches straight off.

 

That are to many day i got that day what ever you do you lose over 10 matches in row and you are topp in your team with over 200k damag and over 2milion tanked but when you look at your team you see the avrage winrate are below 45% but the enemy are over 55% in avrage.

[ColonelPete]

11 minutes ago, __Hercules_ said:

 

I want all the matches would go afther winrate and how many matcher you have played and not only ship typs and tier so you get a 50/50 matches straight off.

 

That are to many day i got that day what ever you do you lose over 10 matches in row and you are topp in your team with over 200k damag and over 2milion tanked but when you look at your team you see the avrage winrate are below 45% but the enemy are over 55% in avrage.

Does not work. You cannot use WR when the system tries to get EVERYONE to get 50% WR. WR is then useless as explained often enough.

And when you lose that much, you are one of these below 50% players yourself.

[__Hercules_]

7 hours ago, ColonelPete said:

Does not work. You cannot use WR when the system tries to get EVERYONE to get 50% WR. WR is then useless as explained often enough.

And when you lose that much, you are one of these below 50% players yourself.

 

 

You probably have to think about it a bit and read my post agin or do you mean the current MM are penalizes the player that have over 50% in WR? 

 

If that is a yes then the MM are really wrong.

 

Im are still over 50% WR  thanks to i did learned early how to play this game but i can see that my stats going down slowly thx to the shitty MM as it is now.