Matchmaker Discussion Thread & MM Balance

[ColonelPete]

Just now, LMBO said:

just airing my opinion based on my experience everything from dispersion fire chance pen or non pen is biased to one team no matter how good or bad players are seems to be designed to keep players going round in circles 

 

Great! As I said, that would make skill meaningless and all complaints about bad teams.

You can go afk in every match and your stats will not change, since WG gave you these stat anyway and have nothing to do with you.

[LMBO]

been stuck on rank 5-6 silver for 5 days now ,always the same, win a couple then you end up in a team that loses half its fleet in the first minute until you back to square one 

 

[ColonelPete]

Just now, LMBO said:

been stuck on rank 5-6 silver for 5 days now ,always the same, win a couple then you end up in a team that loses half its fleet in the first minute until you back to square one 

 

Be grateful that WG put you there as it has nothing to do with your skill

[LMBO]

agreed 

 

[LMBO]

pete i assume from your comments you disagree and think that everything is fine ? 

[ColonelPete]

Just now, LMBO said:

pete i assume from your comments you disagree and think that everything is fine ? 

You assume wrong.

[LMBO]

then whats your take on it , cos i accept my theory could be wrong , but something's not right 

[ColonelPete]

1 hour ago, LMBO said:

then whats your take on it , cos i accept my theory could be wrong , but something's not right 

My take is that your theory is obviously contradicting itself.

[LMBO]

oh i see you're one of them no real substance just hanging about forums trying to ingratiate yourself i get it thanks

[SmegTheNoob]

My win rate has tanked since the introduction of Submarines.

Funny that isn't it?

Its gone from 56% at the end of October, to under 52% today.

 

I could totally blame it on Submarines, but I think I will blame the matchmaker also lol.

 

On the plus side, my average XP is rising.

[ImTryingButYouDontHelp]

23 hours ago, SmegTheNoob said:

I want to know why in 5 man brawls, the matchmaker puts 2 destroyers on one team in the bottom 2 slots?

But then puts 2 cruisers on the other team.

How hard can it be to put 1 cruiser and 1 destroyer on each team.

For the same reason in ranked the MM putts 4 radars in one team, and none on the other, instead of dividing 2 and 2. But, oh surprise, many times you get into a losing streak of 10 battles, when it's not estatistically normal for a "random" MM. Yesterday, I got three straight times into a team with the same 44% WR Schlieffen (in gold league I've seen even a 40% WR) when waiting there were nearly 20 ships to make the team. WG showed us many times that they want this game rigged as much as possible, and the MM is not an exception. It''s well proved that companies use rigged MMs to earn more money based on the player frustration (they buy more "OP" ships and "features"). 

 

11 hours ago, stormguard said:

please add skillbased matchmaking to ranked. the technology is already there as it is used in brawls (to a lower extent). also a leaderboard for ranked would be cool.

 

#MakeRankedGreatAgain

Keep dreaming. The gameplay level in ranked is much worse every day. Sprints should last a little more, and force everybody to start from Broonze again. Now after some sprints, teams in Gold League doesn't even arrive to 50% WR. Pathetic.

 

5 hours ago, ColorsOfRainbows said:

Honestly I feel the.monitor hurts me more then helps me. I start game i am the only player in my team over 43% and the other team has 5 unicums probably also in divisions ... I could go afk now it would not change the game it's lost before it starts

Sometimes, you get veeeeery lucky and win. I tend to think in the other "rewards" I get if I play decently, like missions of the dockyard or similar. Is that or deinstall. 

[ColonelPete]

16 minutes ago, LMBO said:

oh i see you're one of them no real substance just hanging about forums trying to ingratiate yourself i get it thanks

Says the one with the MADE-UP theory, who cannot even see its OBVIOUS logical fallacy

8 minutes ago, SmegTheNoob said:

Funny that isn't it?

It is extremly funny when another guy just claimed that WR does not mean a thing, since WG gave you these wins anyway.

[LMBO]

36,845 posts all sucking up to wargaming enough said we got your number mate hope they reward you well 

[ColonelPete]

26 minutes ago, LMBO said:

36,845 posts all sucking up to wargaming enough said we got your number mate hope they reward you well 

There was no need to tell us that you ran out of arguments.

[Allanagtig]

Player quality for this game has been lacking overall. So many onesided games ending in under 5 mins due to your teams points reaching 0, because you get [edited] signing up in DDs and charging the cap when there is 3-4 radars + CV on the enemy team. 

WG needs to filter the player base out and not let people with less than 45% winrate acquire superships or tier X, before they have a certain level of PR or WR, thats my opinion in order to raise the overall quality of the games.

+/- 2 tier MM also suck and has been for the entire time the game has been around.

Christmas events and what not just make people pres W or go AFK in matches so they can get their rewards, regardless of the battle outcome.

[lup3s]

18 hours ago, LMBO said:

just airing my opinion based on my experience everything from dispersion fire chance pen or non pen is biased to one team no matter how good or bad players are seems to be designed to keep players going round in circles 

 

 

If this were true, what would be the purpose for WG to implement this ?

Implementing a team bias on a per-match basis seems like a lot of work for no real benefits ? (at least none that I can immediately think of)

 

Imo the main issue is that the average player is hopelessly bad, and combined they are even worse - that's why so many bad players have an even worse win rate in divisions (*compared to solo).

 

e.g. if I meet a double DD div and I can sink both of them in the first 5 minutes of the battle without them sinking me, the issue lies not with MM but with those two players 

[Bear__Necessities]

21 hours ago, SmegTheNoob said:

My win rate has tanked since the introduction of Submarines.

Funny that isn't it?

Its gone from 56% at the end of October, to under 52% today.

 

I could totally blame it on Submarines, but I think I will blame the matchmaker also lol.

 

On the plus side, my average XP is rising.

Mine hasn't changed at all and I've been killing subs by the score in low and mid tier. 

 

Nice one on the improving average XP though. 

[SmegTheNoob]

5 hours ago, Bear__Necessities said:

Mine hasn't changed at all and I've been killing subs by the score in low and mid tier. 

 

Nice one on the improving average XP though. 

Thanks mate.

XP is probably rising because I have got a few higher tier ships now.

 

But at the moment I am kicking the ar__ out of CoOp lol.

Not doing too bad. Only 54 battles, but I ain't lost one yet.

Which is more than I can say for some of my team mates lol.

Saw one guy that only plays Coop battles, yet he had lost quite a few.

[Fansadox]

Picture says enough! Joke is on you

 

[SkipperCH]

Removed 3 posts for insults

[Headless75]

WTF of MM is this one WG???

 

Yeah it must be WG BS day! 

[SmegTheNoob]

15 minutes ago, Headless75 said:

WTF of MM is this WG???

Maybe they call it "RIGGED" lol.

[Darkeid]

24 minutes ago, Headless75 said:

WTF of MM is this one WG???

This is another pre-determined outcome regardless of what a player does in battle. Happens quite often actually. Also its the reason this game will remain trash and why its completely not worth spending real money.

[Headless75]

44 minutes ago, SmegTheNoob said:

Maybe they call it "RIGGED" lol.

[Ironic mode on] Ho nothing like that, i'm sure it was just bad luck! Their MM just CANT be working that bad [Ironic mode off]

[ColonelPete]

12 minutes ago, Darkeid said:

This is another pre-determined outcome regardless of what a player does in battle. Happens quite often actually. Also its the reason this game will remain trash and why its completely not worth spending real money.

So the "stronger" team wins by going afk?