Matchmaker Discussion Thread & MM Balance

[Stronginthearms]

On 9/27/2022 at 6:31 PM, L0VE_and_PE4CE said:

thats not how this works. There is nothing illegal the website is doing. WG doesnt own the internet either.

THHANK GOD THEY DONT OWN THE INTERNET IT WOULD BE CRAP LIKE THE GAME IS GETTING

 

[deathsadow]

On 9/27/2022 at 3:01 PM, Seraphice said:

Hi please see the following rule:

12.2. Any types of contractual battles, i.e. match rigging, including deliberate losses (throwing games) or excessively passive behavior of both teams at once (forced draw) are prohibited.

 

As for 5.08, if you think that you see someone who should be punished according to this rule, I will repeat my post above, that you can contact our Customer Support for this, and that if you think that you got an insufficient reply or that proper action was not taken, please reach out to a Community Manager such as myself or my colleagues.

 

Fair seas captain!
~Sera

Is sync dropping also prohibited ?  Today had the rare event when in the same match there was 4 divisions from the exact same clan ( I will not name and shame here), in my view that behaviour is pretty much in line with rigging the MM, i just wonder if that is alowed by WG, or it could be and should be reported ?

[Eyes0re]

Why do you even bother to say/report anything? Nothing will be done anyway?

Nobody at wg cares anyway? They just want more (new) idiots that spend money.

Not a single decent game this evening, a lot of supershits and subs and cv's, too many 44%ers to count, blowouts all the time.

They just want you to leave and shut up or they just silence you, so we don't disturb the morons that they are milking.

[ColonelPete]

7 hours ago, deathsadow said:

Is sync dropping also prohibited ?  Today had the rare event when in the same match there was 4 divisions from the exact same clan ( I will not name and shame here), in my view that behaviour is pretty much in line with rigging the MM, i just wonder if that is alowed by WG, or it could be and should be reported ?

That was explained often enough....

As long as they do not exchange information between teams, it is allowed.

[Seraphice]

On 9/27/2022 at 3:39 PM, SurfaceFish said:

So should WG ban players for actions that haven't take place yet? 

On 9/27/2022 at 3:46 PM, SurfaceFish said:

Sure, let's see what our dear CM does!

Why are you getting annoyed and dictating the rules, you don't even work for the company. 

 

You guys are taking this game too seriously, most people don't play for win or give 100% efferct for the whole match. 

The no of people who constantly throw games can easily be recognised with their stats. Feel free to look over my stats and tell me I'm someone who throw games.

 

There are far more bad players than people who goes into games just to throw. Good luck figure out the needle amount the haystack. 

 

Maybe WG should use the in game report system to ban players. This way there won't be any CV or subs left in game!

In this case a sanction was applied since a player made a report and provided a replay of you intentionally throwing.

 

Oh and the in-game report system works if you report people for misbehavior in chat.

 

On 9/27/2022 at 5:11 PM, GordonsGekko said:

Just to get the same useless reply over and over again: 'Unfortunately, for data protection reasons, we cannot tell you what measures have been taken'.

 

It's a shame you're getting away with this.

Like I mentioned, if you are concerned that no proper sanction was applied, feel free to reach out to a Community Manager and then we can check and verify that proper sanctions were applied.

 

On 9/27/2022 at 7:23 PM, Smegger213 said:

Hi Seraphice, I want to draw your attention to an observation I found the other day.

It concerns mainly in World of Tanks, but it does apply in Warships too.

Claus Kellerman has done numerous Youtube videos recently concerning in game cheating.

Namely, the many web sites out there that advertise to level your account for you, including completing missions.

These web sites will promise to get you a tier 10 tank or ship, or complete the dockyard for you.

They advertise these paying services for both World of Tanks and World of Warships.

You pay them money and give them your account details and password.

Then they will play your account to get the missions done etc.

Claus Kellerman has engaged with some of these web sites via the chat help system they employ.

He got them to admit that they would form platoons or divisions and rig battles to complete missions.

EG they will form a platoon of tanks or ships. Then a player on the enemy team will farm damage from the platoon on the other side.

So, 3 tanks or ships will do nothing for your team except be a damage magnet for the other guy on the other team.

 

Off course all this is against Wargamings terms and conditions for World of Tanks and World of Warships.

Now, what I want to know is WHY WARGAMING DOES NOTHING ABOUT THIS PROBLEM.

I reported a web site called Overtank back in 2016 to Wargaming Player Support.

My ticket was answered with a promise to pass my info onto the relevant department for action.

Well, guess what, I reported this site back in 2016, yet the web site is still up and active today.

They featured in Claus Kellerman's latest Youtube video about cheaters.

Wargaming just do not care.

Meanwhile genuine players games are being ruined by these cheaters, with nothing done to stop them.

Can I suggest someone from Wargaming to go watch Claus's videos on cheaters.

I'm afraid that for tanks related things, this is not the place. you'd be best off asking this question on the tanks forum. However I did watch some videos on that topic for tanks, and if you are aware of any such things happening in warships, then please report them.
I would say that we certainly care. Howeverthough I don't know the specifics of what you describe, so I'm afraid that it'll be difficult for me to say anything about that.

 

 

 

11 hours ago, deathsadow said:

Is sync dropping also prohibited ?  Today had the rare event when in the same match there was 4 divisions from the exact same clan ( I will not name and shame here), in my view that behaviour is pretty much in line with rigging the MM, i just wonder if that is alowed by WG, or it could be and should be reported ?

if one division purposefully dies to the other division, or there is some other kind of match rigging going on, then this would be punishable, but simply being in the same match and playing regularly is not punishable.

 

Fair seas captain!
~Sera

[SurfaceFish]

11 minutes ago, Seraphice said:

n this case a sanction was applied since a player made a report and provided a replay of you intentionally throwing

Fair enough, frustration got the better of my good sense that evening. Took last 3 days off from playing this game to reset my mindset. 

 

I just found a temporary 25% off doubloons coupon for armory ships in my account. Looks like I'll be welcoming the Aquila in my port soon! 

[Smegger213]

11 hours ago, Seraphice said:

 

 

I'm afraid that for tanks related things, this is not the place. you'd be best off asking this question on the tanks forum. However I did watch some videos on that topic for tanks, and if you are aware of any such things happening in warships, then please report them.
I would say that we certainly care. Howeverthough I don't know the specifics of what you describe, so I'm afraid that it'll be difficult for me to say anything about that.

 

Fair seas captain!
~Sera

I know that most of what I posted, was on about World of Tanks Account Boosting Services.

But many of these web sites advertise World of Warships Account Boosting Services too.

 

EG, if you Google "OVERTANK", you will find a web site that advertises WoT account boosting services.

Services such as "I pay them some money, they play my account and get me an Excalibur Tank".

 

Now, if you go look at their web site, you will find some World of Warships Services advertised.

EG, pay them some money. Give them my account password, and they will pay my account and get me any tier 10 ship I want.

Or, I pay them some money. Give them my account details and they can get me 12 million credits and 200k XP.

 

Now, these services do concern World of Warships.

They should concern the World of Warships development team.

 

I reported the Overtank web site to the WoT Player Support back in 2016.

My ticket was supposedly passed to the relevant department.

But this web site is still up and running today and advertising World of Warships account boosting services.

Shouldn't Wargaming be doing something about this problem?

[deathsadow]

On 9/29/2022 at 5:53 AM, ColonelPete said:

That was explained often enough....

As long as they do not exchange information between teams, it is allowed.

They didnt share information , but they didnt shot their clanmates , towards the end they just flipped caps with 2 DD on C cap & not shoting. Im not sure thats rigging or not , they surely exploited the sync drop to boost their base exp that way.

[deathsadow]

On 9/29/2022 at 9:48 AM, Seraphice said:

if one division purposefully dies to the other division, or there is some other kind of match rigging going on, then this would be punishable, but simply being in the same match and playing regularly is not punishable.

 

Fair seas captain!
~Sera

Exact opposite , the clanmates didnt shot each other at all. 2 of their DDs left alone on C decided to flip the cap back and forth between the teams to stack exp.

[ColonelPete]

5 minutes ago, deathsadow said:

They didnt share information , but they didnt shot their clanmates , towards the end they just flipped caps with 2 DD on C cap & not shoting. Im not sure thats rigging or not , they surely exploited the sync drop to boost their base exp that way.

If they ignore their own clan mates and let them cap, then it is rigging.

[deathsadow]

4 minutes ago, ColonelPete said:

If they ignore their own clan mates and let them cap, then it is rigging.

Guess tham i sign a ticket for them & submit the replay , if nothing else probably the cap trading DDs will get some reward for their actions.

[Bear__Necessities]

As this thread just LOVES 1 time anecdotal games based on feelings only.

 

By the normal logic used by the foil hat brigade, we can all guess the result outcome.

 

 

Right??

 

Spoiler

 

[Yosha_AtaIante]

12 minutes ago, Bear__Necessities said:

As this thread just LOVES 1 time anecdotal games based on feelings only.

 

By the normal logic used by the foil hat brigade, we can all guess the result outcome.

 

 

Right??

 

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It's rigged for sure

[quickr]

This highly balanced MM 

 

 

Two unicum division, why MM can't split them up @Seraphice How hard it is to code it. It's rhetorical question, let me tell you: NOT HARD AT ALL

[Corpsetaker]

Hello,

 

This was my mate last night. See those ships just below that red line that was drawn? Those ships never crossed that line and he was getting game after game with players like this. Doesn't matter how much you ask for help or shout in chat it just falls on deaf ears. 

 

[NewHorizons_1]

I kinda felt sorry for the only DD in this co-op match.

No smoke and over half the opponents fast firing CLs that are designed to slaughter destroyers.

He actually survived and came 2nd.

 

[Corpsetaker]

Hello,

 

I think one of the biggest problems with this game is people not being flexible. For instance today my mate had a Constellation on his team that went with him on the right side while he was in his Conqueror. Well there were two DD's on the enemy on that side and instead of that Constellation going "I'm the only one with radar on this side I better help out" he instead did the usual BB thing and started heading for the back of the map. 

[SurfaceFish]

Anyone knows where we can find a breakdown of game durations? 

Seems 2 or 3 out 5 random games are one sided steamroll don't lasts more than 8 mins. It's disappointing on the winning side and feels like waste of time on the lossing side. Plus its crap outcome winning or lossing when you are grinding with blue T3 boosters. 

 

Just don't feel like carry on playing after couple of those steamrolls, not good when you need basic xp for dockyard mission. 

[ColonelPete]

4 hours ago, SurfaceFish said:

Anyone knows where we can find a breakdown of game durations? 

Seems 2 or 3 out 5 random games are one sided steamroll don't lasts more than 8 mins. It's disappointing on the winning side and feels like waste of time on the lossing side. Plus its crap outcome winning or lossing when you are grinding with blue T3 boosters. 

 

Just don't feel like carry on playing after couple of those steamrolls, not good when you need basic xp for dockyard mission. 

WG posted the data 2 to 3 years ago, but nothing since then. Feel free to ask them.

[YILDIRIM_TR_1976]

01.09.2022 saat 22:23'de, ghostbuster_ dedi:

How should I know where these guys have been... 

Nonsense? You accused players in your team for being bad even bots where you ended up not even on top of the score board with top tier BB. I think you should think about it before you post something.

Are you having trouble understanding what I'm saying? I'm not a bad player, the distribution is bad  players act like bots I recommend you to watch this match   

  x lion accuses me of cheating matchmaking in the game sucks  I'm at the point of going crazy now

[BLUB__BLUB]

On 9/30/2022 at 5:56 PM, ColonelPete said:

If they ignore their own clan mates and let them cap, then it is rigging.

If they do that they do not have a sense of humor. Really! 

There is just nothing funnier than shooting your (red) clanmate and teasing him with that afterwards:

"that's what happens to traitors who chose the wrong team, you nubbin..." 

[Reynarth]

Worst matchmaking ever ?

 

YES DEFINITIVELY !!!!!

 

10 tiers + supership garbage + subs garbage + super CV garbage 

 

MIX 3 tiers supergarbage mindset

 

but this time 4 superships and only 1 DD  Tiers 9 !!!

 

 

 KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK  WARGAMING IF YOU WANT TO PURGE EVEN MORE YOUR PLAYERS BASE ALREADY SINKING !!!! 

 

MORE SUPER CV GARBAGE IN BONUS !!!

 

 

21k torp dmg in one drop

 

 

 

 

2ND SUPERCV  EAGLE TORP DROP ??????????? TOTAL DMG 50k !!!!!

 

 

 

 

WARGAMING CANCER  WORK IN PROGRESS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

 

 

 

END OF THE EAGLE FARMING

 

 

[ColonelPete]

17 minutes ago, Reynarth said:

Worst matchmaking ever ?

 

YES DEFINITIVELY !!!!!

 

10 tiers + supership garbage + subs garbage + super CV garbage 

 

MIX 3 tiers supergarbage mindset

 

but this time 4 superships and only 1 DD  Tiers 9 !!!

THAT is a problem for you?

Why do you not just stick to Tier VIII or below then?

[ObiWankov]

On 10/5/2022 at 1:31 AM, SurfaceFish said:

Anyone knows where we can find a breakdown of game durations? 

Seems 2 or 3 out 5 random games are one sided steamroll don't lasts more than 8 mins. It's disappointing on the winning side and feels like waste of time on the lossing side. Plus its crap outcome winning or lossing when you are grinding with blue T3 boosters. 

 

Just don't feel like carry on playing after couple of those steamrolls, not good when you need basic xp for dockyard mission. 

iirc shorter games was the plan all along (more like wot)

[deathsadow]

On 10/5/2022 at 1:31 AM, SurfaceFish said:

Anyone knows where we can find a breakdown of game durations? 

Seems 2 or 3 out 5 random games are one sided steamroll don't lasts more than 8 mins. It's disappointing on the winning side and feels like waste of time on the lossing side. Plus its crap outcome winning or lossing when you are grinding with blue T3 boosters. 

 

Just don't feel like carry on playing after couple of those steamrolls, not good when you need basic xp for dockyard mission. 

Damn, you have an awesome MM i also grind with blue boosters now & im happy if 1 out of 10 is not a pointless steamroll. 

 

On 10/5/2022 at 6:24 AM, ColonelPete said:

WG posted the data 2 to 3 years ago, but nothing since then. Feel free to ask them.

I bet they are not going to show us any data, just like they do whenever they speak about subs. This company went downhil fast in the last 2-3 years ... the WG staff from 2015 would be really sad to see what their game turned into.