Eyes0re Players 105 posts 10,360 battles Report post #7201 Posted September 19, 2022 10 minutes ago, MarChil said: It was fun for the other side You like one-sided battles? Even if you win them? They are a total waste of time for everybody in the battle. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[VICE] JohnMac79 Players 1,872 posts 18,680 battles Report post #7202 Posted September 19, 2022 2 minutes ago, Eyes0re said: You like one-sided battles? Even if you win them? They are a total waste of time for everybody in the battle. I think he was being sarcastic. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[K3RLS] MarChil Players 509 posts 13,275 battles Report post #7203 Posted September 19, 2022 This entire topic is a waste of time. WG is never gonna adjust the MM. They don't care anymore and all they are gonna say is that it works as intended, it's all fair and balanced and 'sometimes thinks happen'. All these answers are complete and utter bull, but they keep handing them out anyway. Never have they given a serious, well argumented answer. Their entire model is based on the fact that MM is a RNG machine and with all the added fails of the last year the archaic piece of poo has lost any and all meaning. Look at the fail in the brawls, look at what that thing conjures in a random battle. They stopped caring like a middle-schooler stops caring about math because they can't make heads or tails from it. And now that the winter of this game is on the way, they surely aren't going to adjust any of it, they need all their attention on the last drops of money they can squeeze. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-SBG-] ColonelPete Players 38,559 posts 19,178 battles Report post #7204 Posted September 19, 2022 30 minutes ago, MarChil said: This entire topic is a waste of time. WG is never gonna adjust the MM. As was said multiple times. The MM was adjusted multiple times. The last adjustment was a few months ago... But when one ignores everything, everything looks like this: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[LIGMA] Smegger213 Alpha Tester 501 posts 1,969 battles Report post #7205 Posted September 19, 2022 4 minutes ago, ColonelPete said: As was said multiple times. The MM was adjusted multiple times. The last adjustment was a few months ago... But when one ignores everything, everything looks like this: I assume you are referring to the recent change where the number of destroyers you could have on your team was restricted in the matchmaker. Well, big deal. If that is the only thing they can think of to improve the matchmaker, then it just shows how out of touch the developers are. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[K3RLS] MarChil Players 509 posts 13,275 battles Report post #7206 Posted September 19, 2022 11 minutes ago, ColonelPete said: As was said multiple times. The MM was adjusted multiple times. The last adjustment was a few months ago... So they changed out a few numbers, I bed it took a highly skilled programmer the better part of his working week to get that done. But ok, Ishould have made it a bit more clear, I should have taken the readers understanding into account and said 'not gonna adjust the MM beyond a small number change to add or subtract a certain class.' My bad, I overestimated the readers, I should have known better. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[K3RLS] MarChil Players 509 posts 13,275 battles Report post #7207 Posted September 19, 2022 And then twitter comes with this beauty, what a timing... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-SBG-] ColonelPete Players 38,559 posts 19,178 battles Report post #7208 Posted September 19, 2022 21 minutes ago, Smegger213 said: I assume you are referring to the recent change where the number of destroyers you could have on your team was restricted in the matchmaker. Well, big deal. If that is the only thing they can think of to improve the matchmaker, then it just shows how out of touch the developers are. Nope, I meant the change to the number of uptiered battles, which makes it two changes in recent months... 15 minutes ago, MarChil said: So they changed out a few numbers, I bed it took a highly skilled programmer the better part of his working week to get that done. But ok, Ishould have made it a bit more clear, I should have taken the readers understanding into account and said 'not gonna adjust the MM beyond a small number change to add or subtract a certain class.' My bad, I overestimated the readers, I should have known better. Changing code is often about changing details, but you are right, nothing changed and you still get this: It is all the same, Tier IX, Tier IV, no difference Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[K3RLS] MarChil Players 509 posts 13,275 battles Report post #7209 Posted September 19, 2022 2 minutes ago, ColonelPete said: It is all the same, Tier IX, Tier IV, no difference "We are very sorry you do not agree with the vision we have for this game, but the majority of players thinks this is just awesome'' Here, saves you a pointless ticket at what WG calls "playersupport" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[LIGMA] Smegger213 Alpha Tester 501 posts 1,969 battles Report post #7210 Posted September 19, 2022 11 minutes ago, ColonelPete said: Nope, I meant the change to the number of uptiered battles, which makes it two changes in recent months... Changing code is often about changing details, but you are right, nothing changed and you still get this: It is all the same, Tier IX, Tier IV, no difference Woopy do. Am I supposed to be impressed? Nice pathetic screenshot from god knows when by the way. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-SBG-] ColonelPete Players 38,559 posts 19,178 battles Report post #7211 Posted September 19, 2022 9 minutes ago, MarChil said: "We are very sorry you do not agree with the vision we have for this game, but the majority of players thinks this is just awesome'' Here, saves you a pointless ticket at what WG calls "playersupport" I do not need a ticket and you do not need one either, since it all the same to you. 3 minutes ago, Smegger213 said: Woopy do. Am I supposed to be impressed? Nice pathetic screenshot from god knows when by the way. According to MarChil, it does not matter, it is all the same. We still have the same MM, so it makes no difference how old the screenshot is Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[LIGMA] Smegger213 Alpha Tester 501 posts 1,969 battles Report post #7212 Posted September 19, 2022 2 minutes ago, ColonelPete said: I do not need a ticket and you do not need one either, since it all the same to you. According to MarChil, it does not matter, it is all the same. We still have the same MM, so it makes no difference how old the screenshot is Well, I have been playing since the Closed Alpha, and as far as I am aware, the game has always had +2 _2 matchmaking. At least in Random Battles. So perhaps you could enlighten us as to how and when Tier 6 could meet Tier 9? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-SBG-] ColonelPete Players 38,559 posts 19,178 battles Report post #7213 Posted September 19, 2022 2 minutes ago, Smegger213 said: Well, I have been playing since the Closed Alpha, and as far as I am aware, the game has always had +2 _2 matchmaking. At least in Random Battles. So perhaps you could enlighten us as to how and when Tier 6 could meet Tier 9? 2015 to, I think, early 2016. And no, it was not Tier VI, Tier I could meet Tier X... And here the MM of 0.3.1.4 (Jun 2015) Spoiler Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[K3RLS] MarChil Players 509 posts 13,275 battles Report post #7214 Posted September 19, 2022 Cleveland a Tier VI? Essex T9 CV? Must be rather old and the dear old colonel is trying to make a point about WG improving the MM sometime in a distant past. Because "if B comes after A, B must be the direct result of A" kind of reasoning. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[LIGMA] Smegger213 Alpha Tester 501 posts 1,969 battles Report post #7215 Posted September 19, 2022 3 minutes ago, ColonelPete said: 2015 to, I think, early 2016. And no, it was not Tier VI, Tier I could meet Tier X... And here the MM of 0.3.1.4 (Jun 2015) Hide contents So you have posted info from 2015 or 2016. That is 7 years ago. Here we are with Wargaming celebrating 7 years of the game. Yet you produce info probably from the Closed Alpha. The best thing you can come up with is to say: "Well, 7 years ago you didn't have it so lucky". I am not impressed at all. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-SBG-] ColonelPete Players 38,559 posts 19,178 battles Report post #7216 Posted September 19, 2022 7 minutes ago, MarChil said: Cleveland a Tier VI? Essex T9 CV? Must be rather old and the dear old colonel is trying to make a point about WG improving the MM sometime in a distant past. Because "if B comes after A, B must be the direct result of A" kind of reasoning. No, no, as you stated "WG is never gonna adjust the MM", they never did. We still have the same MM as 2015. You are completly right. You are the expert on MM changes 1 minute ago, Smegger213 said: So you have posted info from 2015 or 2016. That is 7 years ago. Here we are with Wargaming celebrating 7 years of the game. Yet you produce info probably from the Closed Alpha. The best thing you can come up with is to say: "Well, 7 years ago you didn't have it so lucky". I am not impressed at all. That was open beta and you asked me a question, remember? 21 minutes ago, Smegger213 said: So perhaps you could enlighten us as to how and when Tier 6 could meet Tier 9? You also claimed that WoWs had always +2/-2 MM while also claiming to play since alpha... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[LIGMA] Smegger213 Alpha Tester 501 posts 1,969 battles Report post #7217 Posted September 19, 2022 8 minutes ago, ColonelPete said: No, no, as you stated "WG is never gonna adjust the MM", they never did. We still have the same MM as 2015. You are completly right. You are the expert on MM changes That was open beta and you asked me a question, remember? You also claimed that WoWs had always +2/-2 MM while also claiming to play since alpha... Well, its that long ago, and my memory isn't that bothered. Besides, I am not the kind of sad player that keeps screenshots from that long ago, just to push a pro Wargaming agenda. But it matters jot nothing at what I say. We all know you just exist on this forum to shout down any player that calls out Wargaming on any game matter. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[K3RLS] MarChil Players 509 posts 13,275 battles Report post #7218 Posted September 19, 2022 26 minutes ago, ColonelPete said: No, no, as you stated "WG is never gonna adjust the MM", they never did. We still have the same MM as 2015. You are completly right. You are the expert on MM changes 30 minutes ago, Smegger213 said: English isn't my first language, but I'm pretty sure "is never going to" is not the same as "has not ever done so". And if you could quote me on the part were I claim to be an expert, it would be very helpful. Now, thank you for your valuable insights. I will certainly take it under advicement. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[K3RLS] MarChil Players 509 posts 13,275 battles Report post #7219 Posted September 19, 2022 19 minutes ago, Smegger213 said: We all know you just exist on this forum to shout down any player that calls out Wargaming on any game matter. Well, someone has to be to mouth of the silent minority ;-) 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-SBG-] ColonelPete Players 38,559 posts 19,178 battles Report post #7220 Posted September 19, 2022 2 hours ago, Smegger213 said: Besides, I am not the kind of sad player that keeps screenshots from that long ago, just to push a pro Wargaming agenda. But it matters jot nothing at what I say. We all know you just exist on this forum to shout down any player that calls out Wargaming on any game matter. No agenda, just exposing the post-fact society. It is not my problem that you do not feel™ supported by me in your make-believe world. 1 hour ago, MarChil said: English isn't my first language, but I'm pretty sure "is never going to" is not the same as "has not ever done so". And if you could quote me on the part were I claim to be an expert, it would be very helpful. Now, thank you for your valuable insights. I will certainly take it under advicement. You claim to know what WG will not do until eternity. You have to be an expert to know that. Or do you want to tell me that just made this up? 2 hours ago, MarChil said: Well, someone has to be to mouth of the silent minority ;-) More like a voice against the loud minority of the post-fact society, that argues with feelings™ and make-believe and ignores facts. Who claim to have a bad memory or not taking stuff seriously when getting confronted with facts that disprove their feelings™. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[K3RLS] MarChil Players 509 posts 13,275 battles Report post #7221 Posted September 20, 2022 7 hours ago, ColonelPete said: You claim to know what WG will not do until eternity. I highly doubt they will last very much longer, so it's pretty safe. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-SBG-] ColonelPete Players 38,559 posts 19,178 battles Report post #7222 Posted September 20, 2022 5 minutes ago, MarChil said: I highly doubt they will last very much longer, so it's pretty safe. People are saying that for over 7 years... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[K3RLS] MarChil Players 509 posts 13,275 battles Report post #7223 Posted September 20, 2022 2 minutes ago, ColonelPete said: People are saying that for over 7 years... Well, someone has to be right one day. We will see. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-SBG-] ColonelPete Players 38,559 posts 19,178 battles Report post #7224 Posted September 20, 2022 44 minutes ago, MarChil said: Well, someone has to be right one day. We will see. If one repeats some predictions often enough, they will. One cannot fool entropy. Things that can end, will end someday. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[V-I-P] deathsadow Players 816 posts 11,045 battles Report post #7225 Posted September 20, 2022 Guess the decent players are still grinding the aniversary rewards in co-op ... since last week i see more sub 45% in randoms than 50%+ regardless of side, and man they love DDs and BBs so they can throw games fast. At least it is easy to farm dmg on them, but the game is getting pretty boring when its allways the same potato tactic ... DDs rush to death and all die in max 5-6min , BBs camp far back missing their shots and getting fire farmed, Is ranked any better or its the same clow fiesta where you should kite and HE spam cause the meta is that boring crap. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
