Matchmaker Discussion Thread & MM Balance

[Bear__Necessities]

59 minutes ago, arttuperkunas said:

Diarrhea I think. Man, I was just unable to understand anything you wrote because of that typo/error.

Well. He's a clown then because ....

 

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/diarrhoea

 

And guess which one I use as HEALTH PROFFESSIONAL in the UK. 

 

https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/diarrhoea/pages/introduction.aspx/amp/

 

 

 

 

[arttuperkunas]

1 minute ago, Bear__Necessities said:

Well. He's a clown then because ....

 

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/diarrhoea

 

And guess which one I use as HEALTH PROFFESSIONAL in the UK. 

 

https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/diarrhoea/pages/introduction.aspx/amp/

 

 

 

 

This is actually news to me, I had not seen that way of writing diarrhea before.

[Bear__Necessities]

2 minutes ago, arttuperkunas said:

This is actually news to me, I had not seen that way of writing diarrhea before.

Which is exactly why this forum has rules on trying to belittle people on English usage and spelling/grammar. But nope. It's the last and only resort he had. And now he can explain why he decided to go that route and have egg on his face AT the same time. 

[arttuperkunas]

2 minutes ago, Bear__Necessities said:

Which is exactly why this forum has rules on trying to belittle people on English usage and spelling/grammar. But nope. It's the last and only resort he had. And now he can explain why he decided to go that route and have egg on his face AT the same time. 

It's a valid complaint when you are actually unable to understand someone due to fked up syntax/grammar (if extremely petty when done in a belittling way), but grasping at typos is really the last resort.

[Bear__Necessities]

1 minute ago, arttuperkunas said:

It's a valid complaint when you are actually unable to understand someone due to fked up syntax/grammar (if extremely petty when done in a belittling way), but grasping at typos is really the last resort.

Yup. Grasping at straws indeed. But he's derailed this thread enough, back to the show.

 

*Cough cough*

 

There isn't any cheating in the MM. 

 

There hasn't been any actual proof show in 6 years now. In fact WG have adjusted it for the players numerous times. Because the players demanded it.

 

If players do think that MM is cheating them. Then I question why they even play. Others than to spam endless threads on a forum WG hardly even takes note of.

 

[arttuperkunas]

2 minutes ago, Bear__Necessities said:

Yup. Grasping at straws indeed. But he's derailed this thread enough, back to the show.

 

*Cough cough*

 

There isn't any cheating in the MM. 

 

There hasn't been any actual proof show in 6 years now. In fact WG have adjusted it for the players numerous times. Because the players demanded it.

 

If players do think that MM is cheating them. Then I question why they even play. Others than to spam endless threads on a forum WG hardly even takes note of.

 

I think it's the same thing as conspiracy theories (of which it is one, really). Human minds have a lot of trouble understanding or accepting the arbitrary nature of the world, and a natural tendency to believe that they are the centre of action. Things only seem sensible if they can be explained with reference to yourself. So it's much easier to accept that you are being screwed by a system that is monitoring your individual performance and reacting to you, rather than just being a victim of chance and an uncaring system.

[Bear__Necessities]

Small sample size yadda yadda etc etc. But I played 6 games last night and today and there was not a a single significant difference in any of the team. Now I've downloaded MM I can't wait to show how even teams actually are and that it's only the extreme outliners that are rare, yet ALWAYS cherry picked as an excuses for lost games. Rather than the common and obvious denominator....

 

 

[Aethervoxx]

5 hours ago, arttuperkunas said:

Diarrhea

Correct.

 

12 hours ago, Bear__Necessities said:

English should have a capital letter at the start

Only at the beginning of a sentence (as in what I quote of your post above). Using 'little' e for the word 'english' is, traditionally, more correct, grammatically.

It is other languages (such as German, for example) that use a capitalized word in the middle of a sentence.

12 hours ago, Bear__Necessities said:

I can't see which bit I actually have spelt wrong? But that's the best you have?

See above. Considering you like to bully barf (as if your opinion is better than others),  you might try to consult a dictionary in future (especially, if 'english' is not your native language).

[Bear__Necessities]

2 minutes ago, Aethervoxx said:

See above.

Still trying to derail using an incorrect example......

[Aethervoxx]

1 minute ago, Bear__Necessities said:

using an incorrect example.

Diarrhoea or diarrhea, the first being a UK spelling. I learnt something new (to me).  I like learning new facts about vocabulary. I stand corrected. TY, Bear Necessities.

[Silfuin]

Coming back to the topic, can anyone explain how is fair a matchmaking with 3 radars on one side and just one on the other? (mine)
I had a Goroningen and couldn't do anything, always pushed back by those radars while enemy DDs were free to roam (and most importantly cap).
How can you win a match like that?

[Aethervoxx]

5 minutes ago, Silfuin said:

can anyone explain how is fair a matchmaking with 3 radars on one side and just one on the other?

You can't except to possibly conclude the WG MM intentionally 'arranges' matches that are far from fair (or even random).

[Silfuin]

Well, if Matchmaking is intended to balance the teams 3 radars against one seems hardly balanced.
I don't infer that WG 'arranges' anything, but the matchmaking algorythm in some battles doesn't seem efective in what it should do.
Since I'm not a very good player I was just searching some confirmation or else some advice to handle such situation.

 

[lup3s]

12 hours ago, Bear__Necessities said:

Well. He's a clown then because ....

 

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/diarrhoea

 

And guess which one I use as HEALTH PROFFESSIONAL in the UK. 

 

https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/diarrhoea/pages/introduction.aspx/amp/

 

 

 

 

 

Didn't know that either !

You learn something new everyday, thank you :)

[tocqueville8]

 

Could we please balance the teams *somewhat*? Or get rid of the mercy rule?

 

I'm not blaming the red team here: once a roflstomp begins with 2-3 kills on the same side, it's hard to stop. But at least let the game go on a few more minutes so people get decent xp and credits.

If someone's had enough, he can go afk or yolo, but at least we wouldn't have these pathetic tallies...

[grizzlyone]

Is there a reason why someone is playing Random instead Ranked with (especially premium) T10s?
If there was an option not to enter battles with ships other than the same rank of me, I bet everyone with lower rank would click that.

So what's the point then? Satisfying some who can only win against lower tiers?

[ColonelPete]

22 minutes ago, grizzlyone said:

Is there a reason why someone is playing Random instead Ranked with (especially premium) T10s?
If there was an option not to enter battles with ships other than the same rank of me, I bet everyone with lower rank would click that.

So what's the point then? Satisfying some who can only win against lower tiers?

Not liking Ranked?

[SV_Kompresor]

39 minutes ago, grizzlyone said:

Is there a reason why someone is playing Random instead Ranked with (especially premium) T10s?
If there was an option not to enter battles with ships other than the same rank of me, I bet everyone with lower rank would click that.

So what's the point then? Satisfying some who can only win against lower tiers?

Why would anyone willingly play ranked beyond just the rewards?

 

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If there was an option not to enter battles with ships other than the same rank of me, I bet everyone with lower rank would click that

Good god no. Now that would get boring and stale in about 2 days.

[grizzlyone]

5 hours ago, ColonelPete said:

Not liking Ranked?

I do like Ranked. What I don't understand is what challange others see to play ranked with a premium T10 ships in Random, where all they can do is to bully others.

 

5 hours ago, SV_Kompresor said:

Why would anyone willingly play ranked beyond just the rewards? 

I find no fun or challenge playing against lower tier ships, so I play Ranked whenever I can.

 

5 hours ago, SV_Kompresor said:

Good god no. Now that would get boring and stale in about 2 days. 

It could be a checkbox that you can untick should you wish to play against others other than your tier.

[ColonelPete]

29 minutes ago, grizzlyone said:

I do like Ranked. What I don't understand is what challange others see to play ranked with a premium T10 ships in Random, where all they can do is to bully others.

 

I find no fun or challenge playing against lower tier ships, so I play Ranked whenever I can.

 

It could be a checkbox that you can untick should you wish to play against others other than your tier.

You cannot play Ranked in Random...

So you are telling us that you stopped playing Random after your first Ranked match? You do not have friends you want to play with?

 

Most players have more success below Tier X than on Tier X, despite being top Tier on Tier X all the time...

[grizzlyone]

59 minutes ago, ColonelPete said:

You cannot play Ranked in Random...

So you are telling us that you stopped playing Random after your first Ranked match? You do not have friends you want to play with?

 

Most players have more success below Tier X than on Tier X, despite being top Tier on Tier X all the time...

What I was asking is what's the rationale of playing in Random against lower tiers than playing Ranked against the same tiers as T10 premium? With my T10 ships I only play Ranked, because I just find it more fun to play against the same tier and this is the only way to ensure it.

Tbh I doubt someone would have more success in a T8 ship against T10s, but I'd happily take advice from a division that systematically beats up Stalingrads and Thunderers with a Tallinn and a Monarch. Until then, it would be just nice not to encounter duels I can't win because my ship's a disadvantage.

 

[ColonelPete]

1 minute ago, grizzlyone said:

What I was asking is what's the rationale of playing in Random against lower tiers than playing Ranked against the same tiers as T10 premium? With my T10 ships I only play Ranked, because I just find it more fun to play against the same tier and this is the only way to ensure it.

Tbh I doubt someone would have more success in a T8 ship against T10s, but I'd happily take advice from a division that systematically beats up Stalingrads and Thunderers with a Tallinn and a Monarch. Until then, it would be just nice not to encounter duels I can't win because my ship's a disadvantage.

So you play Random below Tier X, where enemy players are even less experienced... That is even less of a challenge than playing on Tier X...

 

In a Tier VIII ship you chose your battles. Not all enemies are Tier X. But players need not even know that to get a better winrating in Tier VIII than in Tier X ships.

[Bear__Necessities]

1 hour ago, grizzlyone said:

Tbh I doubt someone would have more success in a T8 ship against T10s

 

 

Some of us like and enjoy the challenge of being up tiered. And only T10 v T10, all the time? Boring as F***.

[grizzlyone]

3 minutes ago, ColonelPete said:

So you play Random below Tier X, where enemy players are even less experienced... That is even less of a challenge than playing on Tier X...

You might find different battles fun than I do. I prefer battles where I don't fight against different tiers. Maybe this will change and I opt-in to play against higher tiers, hence I recommended a checkbox.

 

3 minutes ago, ColonelPete said:

In a Tier VIII ship you chose your battles. Not all enemies are Tier X. But players need not even know that to get a better winrating in Tier VIII than in Tier X ships.

No, I don't choose my battles, that's the point.

I only care about my win rates in clan wars, not in Random.

On the other hand, I do understand if some skilled player wants to show some tricks to the newbies. But what I see is the other way round, when some players make fun of beating ships that can't hurt them. I fail to see why anyone would think such bullying should be fun for new players, let alone enforced to endure.

[ColonelPete]

12 minutes ago, grizzlyone said:

You might find different battles fun than I do. I prefer battles where I don't fight against different tiers. Maybe this will change and I opt-in to play against higher tiers, hence I recommended a checkbox.

 

No, I don't choose my battles, that's the point.

I only care about my win rates in clan wars, not in Random.

On the other hand, I do understand if some skilled player wants to show some tricks to the newbies. But what I see is the other way round, when some players make fun of beating ships that can't hurt them. I fail to see why anyone would think such bullying should be fun for new players, let alone enforced to endure.

I have no problem with fighting higher Tiers.

Your suggestion will not happen, as too many players would opt out of the challenge.

 

When you do not chose your battles, that is your personal problem, as is not playing for the win.

 

Which ship cannot hurt another? And when one is a new player and Tier VIII is too much for you, one can play a lower Tier.