Matchmaker Discussion Thread & MM Balance

[Nibenay78]

19 minutes ago, The_Angry_Admiral said:

You're lucky! I've been getting matches with only one CV on the enemy team. 

Had a lot of double CVs at tier 8 last days. It's mindnumbingly annoying and I wish I could glue Halland onto the rear deck of Zieten while grinding it. Or maybe having a Minotaur in tow for AA and smoke...

[Aethervoxx]

Today, on EU server, I play 6 battles & see 4 losses (3 of them in a row hence I stopped). Even when I play well & my div mate plays well, it doesn't matter. [edited] cheat after [edited] MM cheats.

Then I get on NA server & see 2 losses in a row. Again, no matter how well I did, the MM placed me on teams that lose. 

The last battle was a one sided CHEAT (T8 - T10). I was T8 & topped my team - not one sinking for my side but plenty for theirs. A BLATANT CHEAT.

Here is the joke CHEAT for all to see .... 

 This game has become nothing but a FARCE & a SICK JOKE. 

[RuruushuVuiBuritania]

1 hour ago, Aethervoxx said:

Today, on EU server, I play 6 battles & see 4 losses (3 of them in a row hence I stopped). Even when I play well & my div mate plays well, it doesn't matter. [edited] cheat after [edited] MM cheats.

Then I get on NA server & see 2 losses in a row. Again, no matter how well I did, the MM placed me on teams that lose. 

The last battle was a one sided CHEAT (T8 - T10). I was T8 & topped my team - not one sinking for my side but plenty for theirs. A BLATANT CHEAT.

Here is the joke CHEAT for all to see .... 

 This game has become nothing but a FARCE & a SICK JOKE. 

Then why do you continue to play the game if you know that the MM is cheating? No one is forcing you to play.
Or maybe the phenomenon is called ''normal teams being bad as usual''.

[ColonelPete]

1 hour ago, Aethervoxx said:

Today, on EU server, I play 6 battles & see 4 losses (3 of them in a row hence I stopped). Even when I play well & my div mate plays well, it doesn't matter. [edited] cheat after [edited] MM cheats.

Then I get on NA server & see 2 losses in a row. Again, no matter how well I did, the MM placed me on teams that lose. 

The last battle was a one sided CHEAT (T8 - T10). I was T8 & topped my team - not one sinking for my side but plenty for theirs. A BLATANT CHEAT.

Here is the joke CHEAT for all to see .... 

 This game has become nothing but a FARCE & a SICK JOKE. 

You know for over a year that WG does not like you and that everything is their fault and you are too good to ever lose a match, but still you play...

[Bear__Necessities]

4 hours ago, Aethervoxx said:

*snip*

No matter how many times you rant and rave. The only consistent factor is you. You alone. There is no "cheating" from MM. 

[SV_Kompresor]

4 hours ago, Aethervoxx said:

Today, on EU server, I play 6 battles & see 4 losses (3 of them in a row hence I stopped). Even when I play well & my div mate plays well, it doesn't matter. [edited] cheat after [edited] MM cheats.

Then I get on NA server & see 2 losses in a row. Again, no matter how well I did, the MM placed me on teams that lose. 

The last battle was a one sided CHEAT (T8 - T10). I was T8 & topped my team - not one sinking for my side but plenty for theirs. A BLATANT CHEAT.

Here is the joke CHEAT for all to see .... 

 This game has become nothing but a FARCE & a SICK JOKE. 

I played 5 matches yesterday. I won all 5. The mm was clearly cheating. It put all the good players on my team. Like how is that even fair. Fix it wg. /s.

[Camperdown]

5 hours ago, Bear__Necessities said:

No matter how many times you rant and rave. The only consistent factor is you. You alone. There is no "cheating" from MM. 

You are obviously part of the plot against him 

[Johnny_Moneto]

Guess which team won. And yes, it is a trick question as, indeed, it was the 49'ers.

 

[SV_Kompresor]

On 12/20/2021 at 1:56 AM, SV_Kompresor said:

I played 5 matches yesterday. I won all 5. The mm was clearly cheating. It put all the good players on my team. Like how is that even fair. Fix it wg. /s.

I also played another 6 yesterday. Won all of 'em.

[Aethervoxx]

On 12/19/2021 at 1:41 PM, ColonelPete said:

You know for over a year that WG does not like you

Your words, not mine.

On 12/19/2021 at 4:46 PM, Bear__Necessities said:

There is no "cheating" from MM. 

ROFL

On 12/19/2021 at 4:56 PM, SV_Kompresor said:

I played 5 matches yesterday. I won all 5. The mm was clearly cheating.

Were you divisioned? I, sometimes, see several Ws in a row (rarely 5 or 5+). 

 

Instructive who of the 'Forum Guano Vultures' show up to diarrhea out their droppings.

[ColonelPete]

1 minute ago, Aethervoxx said:

Your words, not mine.

That is the way you sell it to us.

You are whining about the MM, but you still continue playing the game, only to whine some more.

[RuruushuVuiBuritania]

1 hour ago, Aethervoxx said:

Your words, not mine.

ROFL

Were you divisioned? I, sometimes, see several Ws in a row (rarely 5 or 5+). 

 

Instructive who of the 'Forum Guano Vultures' show up to diarrhea out their droppings.

I mean, we could say ''git gud'', but that might upset you... Play in divisions. Don't get mad, get even.

[Bear__Necessities]

4 hours ago, Aethervoxx said:

On 12/20/2021 at 12:46 AM, Bear__Necessities said:

There is no "cheating" from MM. 

ROFL

As of yet. You've provided zero evidence. 

[tom_kat]

Well, we all like to win games. But, talking by myself, I've not any problem on loosing games if they are fun. I enjoy a lot games against people that knows how to play while teamed with pretty competent players. Games that are decided because of small details. Those ones, which requires effort and teamplay, are the fun ones and that's one reason why I'm still playing this mess of game.

Sadly, I've noticed that this game looks more and more like WoT on the way the steamrolls, the 12-0/0-12, happens. Personally, I hate a lot games where you know if it's lost or won almost at the start just by looking at where the team goes, no matter what you do, no matter if you try to talk to the team, no matter if the RNG is by your side. That is everything but fun. And It's nothing to be proud of (talking about how the MM works and it's designed).

As an example, I've played around 15-20 games last 2 days, having around 40% WR. Just 2 of them were disputed and entertaining games. And, just because I'm farming the snowflakes with TV-VI-VII, I keeped on launching games. Almost every game I was downtiered wich not necesarily it's bad for me, in fact the 2 games where I have the most fun I were on TVII against TIX. But the big problem here is that, looking at the stats, my team usually does not reach even 500 battles on average (imagine a NC with 60 battles, or an Amagi with 102). Obviously, with people that does not know even the basics, the result must be what it was. This is bi-directional, of course.

The problem, to sum up, for me with the MM is simply the speed wich newcomers research high tiers without knowing anything about the game itself, even the basics. It's sad, but as an example, recently I've one- shoted a full broadside Yamato  with my Kremlim wich results on the kid, or baby,  calling me hacker because that was not possible. And, because of the business model design (attrack as many new players as possible wich could be potential premium shop buyers) I think this only will be worse.

I think all of us who come from WoT know very well how this works. And we know where we gonna end.

[MarChil]

It's very simple:

If it doesn't make or cost money, they do not give a single rat. For now, they have a pretty sweet deal with randoms, because most will fall for the premium gamble trap.

I did when I was struggling in T6. A nice and shiny T8 DD to play with. Cost me a number of games to realize that I had to keep it in port and learn first. But WG had what it wanted. 

So either accept it or take a brake till at least late januari, because a lot of 'patience and understanding' players are lining up. 

[Aethervoxx]

Two blatant MM Cheats. I get harassed by the enemy CV in both battles. I can barely do anything yet I'm not the worst player on my team - not by a long shot.

Two total jokes of a battle where it is obvious the MM is blatantly cheating for the one side, especially the second total farce of a battle.

[RuruushuVuiBuritania]

7 minutes ago, Aethervoxx said:

Two blatant MM Cheats. I get harassed by the enemy CV in both battles. I can barely do anything yet I'm not the worst player on my team - not by a long shot.

Two total jokes of a battle where it is obvious the MM is blatantly cheating for the one side, especially the second total farce of a battle.

 - Matchmaking does not look at stats except for ship and tier composition
 - That you are not last on your team, is by virtue of the average WG player being bad, below 700 XP is bad for a game that is that close, below 400 XP on a curbstomp is still bad but at least more common due to how short these games can last.

[Aethervoxx]

4 hours ago, RuruushuVuiBuritania said:

That you are not last on your team, is by virtue of the average WG player being bad, below 700 XP is bad for a game that is that close, below 400 XP on a curbstomp is still bad but at least more common due to how short these games can last.

You still haven't explained the fact that the results were & are only explained by a blatant cheat from WG MM.

The bad players, as you rely so much upon in your observation, are not balanced (even remotely equally) in most battles.

When it comes to good players the imbalance in the MM is far far worse.

This, in itself, is proof the WG MM cheats (not to mention the blatant targeting accuracy cheat one sees so often (for the team favoured by the WG MM cheat).

& have I mentioned who spends money in this game? You think WG doesn't reward (even marginally) players who spend money? If you don't there's a bridge in Brooklyn for sale.

On 12/21/2021 at 5:04 PM, tom_kat said:

Well, we all like to win games. But, talking by myself, I've not any problem on loosing games if they are fun.

Yes, Ws are better. Even Ls are tolerable when the battles are close & fun.

 The problems are all the blatant CHEATS/ ROFLSTOMPS (lose or win) that WG MM creates, as in the following illustrated WG CHEAT;

[RuruushuVuiBuritania]

1 minute ago, Aethervoxx said:

You still haven't explained the fact that the results were & are only explained by a blatant cheat from WG MM.

And you still haven't explained what the blatant cheat from WG MM actually is.

[Aethervoxx]

3 minutes ago, RuruushuVuiBuritania said:

And you still haven't explained what the blatant cheat from WG MM actually is.

Anything remotely resembling this farce of a battle is a 'blatant cheat'.

[RuruushuVuiBuritania]

Just now, Aethervoxx said:

Anything remotely resembling this farce of a battle is a 'blatant cheat'.

That is not the answer to my question. How does the matchmaker blatantly cheat to cause you to have 386 base XP in a game?

[ColonelPete]

11 minutes ago, RuruushuVuiBuritania said:

That is not the answer to my question. How does the matchmaker blatantly cheat to cause you to have 386 base XP in a game?

He does not know. It is all in his head. He sees things. Maybe that is the reason...

[RuruushuVuiBuritania]

1 minute ago, ColonelPete said:

He does not know. It is all in his head. He sees things. Maybe that is the reason...

Sometimes I wonder whether this forum needs a psychiatrist. But you basically live rent-free in his head 

[SV_Kompresor]

42 minutes ago, Aethervoxx said:

You think WG doesn't reward (even marginally) players who spend money?

Yes. I do think that.

[lup3s]

8 hours ago, Aethervoxx said:

Anything remotely resembling this farce of a battle is a 'blatant cheat'.

 

I see no cheats but just one team being a lot worse than the other.

 

I have no idea why you keep yelling "cheats" regarding to MM - unless you really think that WG hates you personally and has a part of code of the MM system dedicated solely to you, so you can get "cheated" of your wins ?