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Since Weekends it seems is like an all you can eat potatosalad and initially I wanted to rant hard, instead I rather go the sarcastic route:

 

They should make a Menu like with the Operations Menu:

1. Naval Battle: (DD,CL,BB, 1 bottom tier CV OR Sub)

2. Naval Soup: (DD,CL,BB, 1 top tier CV OR Sub)

3. Naval minced meat: (subs, DD,CL,BB,CV)

4. random now: (subs, DD,CL,BB, (DUAL) CV) Lemmingtrain clusterfun

 

 

1+. Naval Battle: (DD,CL,BB, bottom tier CV) - Premiumsubscription: Same as above but with a 60% chance to not be on the potato team

2.+ Naval Soup: (DD,CL,BB, top tier CV) - Premiumsubscription: Same as above but with a 60% chance to not be on the potato team

3.+ Naval minced meat: (subs, DD,CL,BB,CV) - Premiumsubscription: Same as above but with a 60% chance to not be on the potato team

4.+ random now: (subs, DD,CL,BB, (DUAL) CV) Lemmingtrain clusterfun - Premiumsubscription: Same as above but with a 60% chance to not be on the potato team

 

I know this would take some UI Work ^^

- but honestly - make a Game mode where Players can select to either play with or without Subs/CV. Those Stats would really interest me.

 

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Retropersectively this was a 4+ Game and ended with a 4 kill win ...

 

almost forgot this nugget:

5. random special: (subs, DD,CL,BB,  CV) Lemmingtrain clusterfun with CV, 2x Hybrid Divi -- Dante has a tenth circle of hell just for you! :fish_boom:

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The thing I really genuinely don’t understand is why / how a player can have a WR barely above 40% after 11000 games and yet they continue to play so badly

 

Had so many blow out games today where bottom 3 players on my team were beyond useless and had stats like the example above
 

My WR was slowly improving to about 52.5 % but is constantly dropping now as I’m not good enough to carry really bad teams and I can’t learn how to be good enough or improve my own game if, like in my second to last game today, we lose  3 ships in less than 3 minutes

 

Just feels like I’m stuck at this level forever 

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2 hours ago, Takethatyoubeast said:

The thing I really genuinely don’t understand is why / how a player can have a WR barely above 40% after 11000 games and yet they continue to play so badly

 

Had so many blow out games today where bottom 3 players on my team were beyond useless and had stats like the example above
 

My WR was slowly improving to about 52.5 % but is constantly dropping now as I’m not good enough to carry really bad teams and I can’t learn how to be good enough or improve my own game if, like in my second to last game today, we lose  3 ships in less than 3 minutes

 

Just feels like I’m stuck at this level forever 

I gave a quick look at your stats. Disclaimer: I am no fan myself of superficial stat analysis, but fwiw:

It seems you are doing well enough up to T8. T9 and T10 have a different meta. Perhaps slowly grow used to T9, but stick to T6-8 mostly for now. Play ships you like and are comfortable with for half your games.

You are not doing very well in BBs and DDs. Perhaps avoid high tier BBs for a while. They are tough to play well without static play style. 

DDs: make sure you learn how to survive while still being effective at DD tasks. Do you play Lightning? I find her a very forgiving T8 DD. I have learned a lot about measured aggression playing her.

 

GL HF! 

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5 minutes ago, Camperdown said:

I gave a quick look at your stats. Disclaimer: I am no fan myself of superficial stat analysis, but fwiw:

It seems you are doing well enough up to T8. T9 and T10 have a different meta. Perhaps slowly grow used to T9, but stick to T6-8 mostly for now. Play ships you like and are comfortable with for half your games.

You are not doing very well in BBs and DDs. Perhaps avoid high tier BBs for a while. They are tough to play well without static play style. 

DDs: make sure you learn how to survive while still being effective at DD tasks. Do you play Lightning? I find her a very forgiving T8 DD. I have learned a lot about measured aggression playing her.

 

GL HF! 

:Smile_honoring:

Thank you

 

I think T8 is probably my level at the moment so I’ll stick with that 

 

I’ll give the Lightning a go although I was thinking of HMS Cossack as a premium DD  

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Just now, Takethatyoubeast said:

Thank you

 

I think T8 is probably my level at the moment so I’ll stick with that 

 

I’ll give the Lightning a go although I was thinking of HMS Cossack as a premium DD  

I got Cossack a month ago and I like her a lot. She is more of a gunboat while Lightning is a generalist ship. Good at everything, so a good trainer boat. Cossack doesn't have AA, which is a pain. 

I use Cossack in ranked: kill 1 or 2 DDs and you have a good chance of winning. I use Lightning in randoms and brawls.

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T10 is worst than T2 now. Is so bad push PLAY and end game with 8 min with people and WG MM like this! WG fault that allowed players grind to fast but also people not using brains to learn a little. Not on this game but on another one guy said '' I have 55% WR on this ship'' but overall he had 42% WR, 850PR and over 12K battles. Some people says that is just game and having fun. Must be really fun as well in their life. 

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All the solo games I played today were decided on the loading screen. Nothing more to add.

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On 11/8/2021 at 9:46 AM, Takethatyoubeast said:

we lose  3 ships in less than 3 minutes

This happens because Wedgie cheats with who goes onto what team - all based on who pays more. It's subtle, ofc, otherwise very few players would stay for any length of time.

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On 11/9/2021 at 10:25 AM, Sambor0 said:

T10 is worst than T2 now.

What does anyone expect with the direction Wedgie is going. T2, amongst other low tiers, is actually a lot of fun to play & 'bonus', there's nary a CV or Sub in sight :cap_like:.

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Games today were horrible. Complete blowouts one way or the other. Either enemy dies with me barely able to get any good shots in. Or I think game is going ok and suddenly its 3vs10 and game just ends. Idk, everyone just seems in a rush to die. And the close games I had so mayn could have been wins instead of losses. I was watching people turn away from free caps to chase a 10k hp BB that was dead in the next 30 secs anyway. 40k hp Repu giving full broadside to a 3k hp Vermont and got deleted. Vermont died 1 sec later to fires. DDs and subs rushing into caps to die. A full hp Conqueror sitting in the back the whole game. Private profile and last place. The only one still alive with 95% hp remaining.

 

And for some reasons they added subs into this. It sure is fun playing against 4 DDs and 2 Subs. Not being able to see anything while dodging torps whole game. 

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Cruisers still massively popular...

Even had another game were I was the only cruiser (1 CV, 5 BBs, 1 CA, 3 DDs, 2 subs). I felt so dejected, I even forgot to make a screenshot.

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On 11/12/2021 at 7:56 PM, BruceRKF said:

Cruisers still massively popular...

Even had another game were I was the only cruiser (1 CV, 5 BBs, 1 CA, 3 DDs, 2 subs). I felt so dejected, I even forgot to make a screenshot.

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I've had a few games where there were no cruisers at all... just battleships, submarines and destroyers.

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38 minutes ago, BOZO6464 said:

Wargaming is just kidding us , all they wants is our money , MM will never be fair Cause RNG and MM are needed to get your money

Don't get mad, get better. Pull your weight. Find and fix your mistakes. Not every battle is winnable, but you alone can make the difference in your gameplay by doing the right thing.

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14 dakika önce, RuruushuVuiBuritania dedi:

Kızmayın, iyileşin. Ağırlığını çek. Hatalarınızı bulun ve düzeltin. Her savaş kazanılabilir değildir, ancak doğru olanı yaparak oyununuzda fark yaratabilirsiniz.

I've been playing World of tanks for 12 years and wargaming policy is always the same , they want you to spend money

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1 minute ago, BOZO6464 said:

I've been playing World of tanks for 12 years and wargaming policy is always the same , they want you to spend money

Yes, it is surprising to some that a company does not work for free.

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18 dakika önce, ColonelPete dedi:

Yes, it is surprising to some that a company does not work for free.

will make money of course but won't deceive people . Wargaming has written game dynamics and mechanics in rules but wargaming doesn't follow the rules.  I play all my 6 level matches with 8 levels is it fair to you?

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2 minutes ago, BOZO6464 said:

will make money of course but won't deceive people . Wargaming has written game dynamics and mechanics in rules but wargaming doesn't follow the rules. 

What rules are you talking about? This a MM thread.

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