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1 hour ago, ColonelPete said:

A person that thinks that 55% winrate is the result of almost unwinnable battles, is unable to see that...

I believe your brain is short circuiting, Pete. It wasn't me who said anything about a 55%WR, so, why were you quoting me (post # 5874 above)?

 

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6 minutes ago, Aethervoxx said:

I believe your brain is short circuiting, Pete. It wasn't me who said anything about a 55%WR, so, why were you quoting me (post # 5874 above)?

 

Maybe you should pay more attention to what you downvote...

Unless you downvote posts you agree too... :Smile_trollface:

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9 hours ago, Vasilek said:

Another thing with the Mm is it ability to stack different number of player on one side of the map.You start the game, ahead is cap a ,three ships on your side .....c.v planes fly over to show 5 or 6 ship facing you, no point moving forward.turn and run cap a lost .this called the Vasilek effect as appears to happen a lot to me. 

Of course on  the other side  of the map its weighed in our favour but no fun if you running away all the time.

 

This I can attest to - asymmetrical spawns can hurt specific battles; I think more symmetrical spawns would be better (though I also think that "exact symmetrical" spawns aren't possible with the current MM).

 

I wonder how much divisions influence these (a)symmetrical spawns.

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22 minutes ago, lup3s said:

I wonder how much divisions influence these (a)symmetrical spawns.

Asymetrical spawns are usally caused by divisions. Considering that divisions give a team a slight advantage on average, it probably balances the spawn positions out.

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Having more of the Red Team spawn opposite you is what we in The Corps call a 'Target Rich Environment' :cap_rambo::cap_cool:

Plus you don't have to worry about the other flank collapsing :cap_yes:

 

:cap_popcorn::cap_popcorn:

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19 hours ago, Molly_Delaney said:

Having more of the Red Team spawn opposite you is what we in The Corps call a 'Target Rich Environment' :cap_rambo::cap_cool:

Plus you don't have to worry about the other flank collapsing :cap_yes:

 

:cap_popcorn::cap_popcorn:

 

Trusting your team :cap_book:

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23 hours ago, Molly_Delaney said:

Plus you don't have to worry about the other flank collapsing

Optimist.

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Total garbage MM. WR is a false statistic. Try explaining a failtard division that camps then runs out & dies pointlessly - amazing how often these imbeciles happen to be on your team.

This is why WG products are SICK JOKES. All WG wants is your money. The games themselves? ROFL. The only game for WG is gaming your money (read: stealing your money).

 

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Can someone explain me why human trash with PR less than 500-600 PR is even allowed to matchmake in ranked games? They should not even have basic human rights since bots are smarter. They are frustrating, wasting time and effort of many players... Why there is no requirements to play ranked for god sake!? 

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1 hour ago, PrinzSiegfried said:

Can someone explain me why human trash with PR less than 500-600 PR is even allowed to matchmake in ranked games? They should not even have basic human rights since bots are smarter. 

You want to deprive people of their basic human rights, because of a game? 

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14 minutes ago, ColonelPete said:

You want to deprive people of their basic human rights, because of a game? 

You misinterpret the context. Today, everyone takes everything literally and pretends to be politically correct...

Such player - with either tragic statistics and not enough games (and maybe some ship requirements) should NOT be allowed to play ranked game (brawl =/= ranked). 

Some bastic requirements should be introduced. Wargaming should have enough data to balance them (not too high, not too low). 

For example (pure random req):
- at least 1000 PR 

- at least 500 or 1000 games 

- at least 4 tree ships unlocked from current tier used in available (for that player) ranked (for example 4 tier 6 ships unlocked for Bronze)

- you were not punished for heavy friendly fire in last 3 games

 

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8 minutes ago, PrinzSiegfried said:

You misinterpret the context. Today, everyone takes everything literally and pretends to be politically correct...

I just read what you wrote. Interpretations are subjective and can result in even bigger misunderstandings.

It is better to write what you mean and not ressort to hyberbole.

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Lots of fun entering a battle with 3 caps & one expects an enjoyable experience & then the idiots on your team just plow straight in & get sunk.

Then, you do your best to try to recover but even that is impossible because the one team also gets better targeting results.

 So, you see a loss. So, you got top spot on your team. So what.

All you saw was a GARBAGE Battle - all due to CRAP MM.

 

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WG MM targeting CHEATS - that's all WG does is CHEAT especially with MM & targeting resolutions. Total garbage.

 

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Equal chances (MM that pairs non-premade group with a FULL premade... it should NEVER happen) and non-premium ships that aren't available for mortals yet (some people don't know what the hell it is).

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3 hours ago, PrinzSiegfried said:

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Equal chances (MM that pairs non-premade group with a FULL premade... it should NEVER happen) and non-premium ships that aren't available for mortals yet (some people don't know what the hell it is).

:cap_rambo::Smile_bajan2: 

Half the games are like that .. premades making game more 1 sided than Russian elections.

 

I wonder why the devs are not adding solo queue to this game ... I hate both when premades on our side steamroll down the game & when enemy pre made does the same.

 

One side get a unicum divi the other some sub 45% potato divi & the game is over even before started.

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95% of the games is like that ......well done wging LOL..... newbies and more newbies in high tiers impossible to win :P .....they are

dead  as soon as they get spotted

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7 hours ago, PrinzSiegfried said:

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Equal chances (MM that pairs non-premade group with a FULL premade... it should NEVER happen) and non-premium ships that aren't available for mortals yet (some people don't know what the hell it is).

:cap_rambo::Smile_bajan2: 

You go brawling in a conq.... Kinda ironic to even complain about matchmaking lol. 

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9 minutes ago, Tanaka_15 said:

Me, well lets play a game mayby ill have fun. 

 

MM:

 

 

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Lucky you, top tier! :Smile_trollface:

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11 hours ago, PaxtonQuigly said:

You go brawling in a conq.... Kinda ironic to even complain about matchmaking lol. 

Tbh it works very well on most comps (unless you get a comp with a CV instead of DD...). Powerful HE (excellent at shredding DD's and everything that's angled including any brawler's torpedoes) and still very good AP. Few times concealment allowed me to flank and pretty much x2 dev due to broadside AP combo. Due to "burning meta" superheal is awesome too. 

It's out of meta - sure - but still it's good esp. if people don't use brain how to counter it. I am mostly playing on Des and Shima. I am avoiding BB's due to sick que. 

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1 hour ago, Camperdown said:

Lucky you, top tier! :Smile_trollface:

and next game ffs wg fix ytour game!

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1 hour ago, Tanaka_15 said:

and next game ffs wg fix ytour game!

 

 

I damn the day when someone smart in WG decided to delete uneven CV tiers... this created pato-situations like this... VII-VIII vs X tier CV or 6 tier CV vs VIII AA beasts... Maybe they should invest in educated employees. 

Maybe they were too lazy... less ships less work to balance it, create models... 

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