bloodynicknames Players 557 posts 16,804 battles Report post #5726 Posted September 20, 2021 39 minutes ago, ColonelPete said: Red team, 3 man unicum division, green team, no unicums, still won... Random MM... Reveal hidden contents ah, pete, my favorite clown, hows it going ? played any T10 games yet? 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NWP] Bear__Necessities Players 5,291 posts 15,376 battles Report post #5727 Posted September 20, 2021 54 minutes ago, bloodynicknames said: random matchmaking" That IS the definition of random. Well done. You're learning. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-SBG-] ColonelPete Players 38,559 posts 19,177 battles Report post #5728 Posted September 20, 2021 8 minutes ago, bloodynicknames said: ah, pete, my favorite clown, hows it going ? played any T10 games yet? Why do you insist on showing us your lack of arguments by completly going offtopic? You do not need to, we know that already. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bloodynicknames Players 557 posts 16,804 battles Report post #5729 Posted September 21, 2021 10 hours ago, Bear__Necessities said: That IS the definition of random. Well done. You're learning. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NWP] Bear__Necessities Players 5,291 posts 15,376 battles Report post #5730 Posted September 21, 2021 2 hours ago, bloodynicknames said: This goes for that shadow that follows you around also. 1 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TALOS] Hogger4169 Players 316 posts 8,317 battles Report post #5731 Posted September 21, 2021 1 image 1000 words. 5 images 5000 words... Add your own description.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[RAIN] GarrusBrutus Players 3,711 posts 12,527 battles Report post #5732 Posted September 21, 2021 1 hour ago, GeroGompos said: 1 image 1000 words. 5 images 5000 words... Add your own description.... Seems quite balanced to me. Team stats between 45-50%? You shouldn't look at shipstats as they fluctuate too much. For example 1 guy with two battles and two wins (100%) already pushes the average up a lot. In fact, you shouldn't look at these stats at all unless you wanna feed your confirmation bias. Focus on your own gameplay and you will see your results change for the better. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[THESO] SV_Kompresor Beta Tester, Players, In AlfaTesters 5,868 posts Report post #5733 Posted September 21, 2021 1 hour ago, GeroGompos said: 1 image 1000 words. 5 images 5000 words... Add your own description.... Sorry which of these is supposed to be horribly imbalanced? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TALOS] Hogger4169 Players 316 posts 8,317 battles Report post #5734 Posted September 21, 2021 2 hours ago, GarrusBrutus said: Seems quite balanced to me. Team stats between 45-50%? You shouldn't look at shipstats as they fluctuate too much. For example 1 guy with two battles and two wins (100%) already pushes the average up a lot. In fact, you shouldn't look at these stats at all unless you wanna feed your confirmation bias. Focus on your own gameplay and you will see your results change for the better. 2 hours ago, SV_Kompresor said: Sorry which of these is supposed to be horribly imbalanced? Pease correct me if i am wrong but a -/+3% makes a big difference for me. Except one battle the other 4 have a 7 to 10% winrate difference. a big value can increase the overall value and vice versa.... My opinion... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-SBG-] ColonelPete Players 38,559 posts 19,177 battles Report post #5735 Posted September 21, 2021 Just now, GeroGompos said: Pease correct me if i am wrong but a -/+3% makes a big difference for me. Except one battle the other 4 have a 7 to 10% winrate difference. a big value can increase the overall value and vice versa.... My opinion... 4 hours ago, GeroGompos said: 3.3% 0.8% 0.07% 3.32% Not much difference in %-points... 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TALOS] Hogger4169 Players 316 posts 8,317 battles Report post #5736 Posted September 21, 2021 Just now, ColonelPete said: Not much difference in %-points... winrate? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-SBG-] ColonelPete Players 38,559 posts 19,177 battles Report post #5737 Posted September 21, 2021 1 minute ago, GeroGompos said: winrate? Account winrate. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[RAIN] GarrusBrutus Players 3,711 posts 12,527 battles Report post #5738 Posted September 21, 2021 4 hours ago, GeroGompos said: Pease correct me if i am wrong but a -/+3% makes a big difference for me. Except one battle the other 4 have a 7 to 10% winrate difference. a big value can increase the overall value and vice versa.... My opinion... 3% isn't a big difference and anything can happen in such games. What truly baffles me is the obsession with statistics by these really poor players. And then they claim unicums are stats obsessed... If only you invested half the time you spend looking at matchmakingmonitor, at trying to understand the game more and improving your gameplay, you wouldn't sit at a steady 45% winrate for hundreds of games in a row. All you do is looking for a scapegoat why you can not win more. Yet the cause of it is sitting between the monitor and the chair. I rarely see topics asking for help or any effort whatsoever in trying to improve, by the players moaning in this thread about matchmaking. Boo hoo, the enemies have a better team. So what? My teams suck just as hard, yet over the years I learned and got better. Currently on a 60%+ solo winrate. You will never get better by blaming anything but yourself. Git. Gud. 4 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TALOS] Hogger4169 Players 316 posts 8,317 battles Report post #5739 Posted September 21, 2021 25 minutes ago, GarrusBrutus said: 3% isn't a big difference and anything can happen in such games. What truly baffles me is the obsession with statistics by these really poor players. And then they claim unicums are stats obsessed... If only you invested half the time you spend looking at matchmakingmonitor, at trying to understand the game more and improving your gameplay, you wouldn't sit at a steady 45% winrate for hundreds of games in a row. All you do is looking for a scapegoat why you can not win more. Yet the cause of it is sitting between the monitor and the chair. I rarely see topics asking for help or any effort whatsoever in trying to improve, by the players moaning in this thread about matchmaking. Boo hoo, the enemies have a better team. So what? My teams suck just as hard, yet over the years I learned and got better. Currently on a 60%+ solo winrate. You will never get better by blaming anything but yourself. Git. Gud. What's the reason wows to have a matchmaker? make 2 random teams of 12 and let the games begin.... What i am trying to describe is that it is more fair to make equal teams with small variation on winrate, give a fair chance. a team with half potatoes and half unicums is not solving anything. Personally i am not asking better players in my team, i ask equal opponents. Fair and simple imo. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[RAIN] GarrusBrutus Players 3,711 posts 12,527 battles Report post #5740 Posted September 21, 2021 7 minutes ago, GeroGompos said: What's the reason wows to have a matchmaker? make 2 random teams of 12 and let the games begin.... What i am trying to describe is that it is more fair to make equal teams with small variation on winrate, give a fair chance. a team with half potatoes and half unicums is not solving anything. Personally i am not asking better players in my team, i ask equal opponents. Fair and simple imo. Then why do you only post the teamsheets where your team has a statistical disadvantage? Are you aware of the fact that each team with you in it has a higher chance at losing since a 45%wr player drags the team average down? So in a sense you are asking for better teammates. Stop doing that. Start asking for help. Be critical on yourself. Then you do not need better teams to win. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-SBG-] ColonelPete Players 38,559 posts 19,177 battles Report post #5741 Posted September 21, 2021 51 minutes ago, GeroGompos said: What's the reason wows to have a matchmaker? make 2 random teams of 12 and let the games begin.... What i am trying to describe is that it is more fair to make equal teams with small variation on winrate, give a fair chance. a team with half potatoes and half unicums is not solving anything. Personally i am not asking better players in my team, i ask equal opponents. Fair and simple imo. Because 12 Tier I cruiser would not have fun vs 12 Tier X BB. That is what MM is for. And your teams were extremly close skillwise. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[THESO] Darkeid [THESO] Players 137 posts 20,377 battles Report post #5742 Posted September 22, 2021 @bloodynicknames yeah bad MM like the one here 4 players above 50% vs 8 players above 50% 6 players below 1000 pr vs 2 1 player with good PR vs 2 good & 2 unicum Final score 3:12 , pre-decided outcome due to imbalanced matchmaking 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bloodynicknames Players 557 posts 16,804 battles Report post #5743 Posted September 22, 2021 2 hours ago, Darkeid said: @bloodynicknames yeah bad MM like the one here 4 players above 50% vs 8 players above 50% 6 players below 1000 pr vs 2 1 player with good PR vs 2 good & 2 unicum Final score 3:12 , pre-decided outcome due to imbalanced matchmaking but but according to the experts here this IS random ... apparently some people have weird definitions of random. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-SBG-] ColonelPete Players 38,559 posts 19,177 battles Report post #5744 Posted September 23, 2021 5 hours ago, bloodynicknames said: but but according to the experts here this IS random ... apparently some people have weird definitions of random. How is that not random? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SCRUB] lup3s Players 5,744 posts 32,868 battles Report post #5745 Posted September 23, 2021 19 hours ago, bloodynicknames said: but but according to the experts here this IS random ... apparently some people have weird definitions of random. Can you maybe explain your definition of "random" then ? I don't see how having the exact same team balance in every battle can be considered random. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[G-O-M] Aethervoxx Players 2,597 posts 13,191 battles Report post #5746 Posted September 23, 2021 4 hours ago, lup3s said: Can you maybe explain your definition of "random" then ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-SBG-] ColonelPete Players 38,559 posts 19,177 battles Report post #5747 Posted September 23, 2021 13 minutes ago, Aethervoxx said: If that is already Random for you, then you should not complain about MM. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SCRUB] lup3s Players 5,744 posts 32,868 battles Report post #5748 Posted September 24, 2021 3 hours ago, Aethervoxx said: Not sure what to take of this; you mean that the existence of streaks is not possible in a random number generator ? :edit: technically it's pseudo-random number generator :) :edit2: if you'd take history of previous outcomes into account, it's not really random 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bloodynicknames Players 557 posts 16,804 battles Report post #5749 Posted September 25, 2021 can you tell it's weekend ? cause I sure can taken into account that I'm the ONLY player on this team that has green stats ... f*ck me ... bunch of bottom feeders Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-SBG-] ColonelPete Players 38,559 posts 19,177 battles Report post #5750 Posted September 25, 2021 1 hour ago, bloodynicknames said: can you tell it's weekend ? cause I sure can taken into account that I'm the ONLY player on this team that has green stats ... f*ck me ... bunch of bottom feeders Interesting, when you get worse results during the week... Spoiler Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
