Matchmaker Discussion Thread & MM Balance

[Prophecy82]

On 6/23/2021 at 5:17 PM, Mcfly666 said:

After playing for a while in ranked today I've got to say Wargaming are bloody useless. I'm not the best player by any means but I'm CONSTANTLY being put in teams where players have really low stats. Players with sub 40%WR and a few hundred battles under their belt, where the other team has players where they each have 5k+ battles and 50/60% WR's.


 

Where is the problem then? 

EZ star saved for you.

[Bear__Necessities]

10 hours ago, GarrusBrutus said:

Why do you keep playing the game when all you do is complain? 

Because some people just love being a "victim".

[Pukovnik7]

17 hours ago, Bear__Necessities said:

Because some people just love being a "victim".

Mostly because there is no alternative. World of Tanks has alternative in Armored Warfare, World of Warships, to my knowledge, does not.

[Bear__Necessities]

3 hours ago, Pukovnik7 said:

Mostly because there is no alternative. World of Tanks has alternative in Armored Warfare, World of Warships, to my knowledge, does not.

People can play the game and not complain about something which has been improved upon because of years of complaining already. Nearly everyone I've seen who has made an MM whine thread has one thing in common. They need to get good. But don't want to put in the effort. Or they are good and want it even easier for them. 

[Pukovnik7]

1 hour ago, Bear__Necessities said:

People can play the game and not complain about something which has been improved upon because of years of complaining already. Nearly everyone I've seen who has made an MM whine thread has one thing in common. They need to get good. But don't want to put in the effort. Or they are good and want it even easier for them. 

That is certainly part of it. But it is a fact that there are many matches where one team just collapses, and nothing I do seems to make a difference. But that, as I have mentioned many times, can probably be fixed by maps: sure, more restrictive maps promoting close-range gameplay may not enable weaker team to win, but at least they ought to prevent ROFLstomps.

[Mcfly666]

On 9/17/2021 at 9:30 AM, Prophecy82 said:

 

Where is the problem then? 

EZ star saved for you.

Why do you assume its got anything to do with saving a star? Star saved or not it's just a bloody waste of time and flags

 

[Aethervoxx]

A T1 battle where the enemy Bots played 'intelligently' & 'hit' a fair bit, hence my team was down 4 in two minutes before they even lost 1.

A blatant WG CHEAT. It couldn't have been clearer that the MM cheats along with the targeting & hit cheat.

I finished top of my team, top of the human players.

Ofc, the enemy human players did 'so much better' being against Bots that actually played stupidly.

 Such a blatant CHEAT JOKE, WG can shove it if they think this player will ever give them another penny considering  WG blatant CHEATING.

 

 

[ColonelPete]

8 hours ago, Aethervoxx said:

A T1 battle where the enemy Bots played 'intelligently' & 'hit' a fair bit, hence my team was down 4 in two minutes before they even lost 1.

A blatant WG CHEAT. It couldn't have been clearer that the MM cheats along with the targeting & hit cheat.

I finished top of my team, top of the human players.

Ofc, the enemy human players did 'so much better' being against Bots that actually played stupidly.

 Such a blatant CHEAT JOKE, WG can shove it if they think this player will ever give them another penny considering  WG blatant CHEATING.

Had that too recently, still won. Just focussed the human players, when possible.

[Camperdown]

3 minutes ago, ColonelPete said:

Had that too recently, still won. Just focussed the human players, when possible.

That, or making sure low HP ships are killed off quickly.

[gabberworld]

22 hours ago, Bear__Necessities said:

People can play the game and not complain about something which has been improved upon because of years of complaining already. Nearly everyone I've seen who has made an MM whine thread has one thing in common. They need to get good. But don't want to put in the effort. Or they are good and want it even easier for them. 

and still there are matches when team wins 12 vs 0  alive ships. that clearly shows that mm is out off any-kind balance. and if you are one off those battles. no matter how good you are you still most likely lose 

[Bear__Necessities]

2 hours ago, gabberworld said:

and still there are matches when team wins 12 vs 0  alive ships. that clearly shows that mm is out off any-kind balance. and if you are one off those battles. no matter how good you are you still most likely lose 

No. That's called MM being random. I think a large percentage of people just do not know what the word random actually means. 

[Aethervoxx]

5 hours ago, gabberworld said:

12 vs 0 

Is a clear CHEAT

2 hours ago, Bear__Necessities said:

that's called MM being random.

Incorrect. 12 - 0 is not random, it is a CHEAT.

 

[gabberworld]

2 hours ago, Bear__Necessities said:

No. That's called MM being random. I think a large percentage of people just do not know what the word random actually means. 

im not 100% sure if its random. why would then they even bother ask if you was happy with your battle results. when battle ends

[Aethervoxx]

 I'm not naming or shaming - I do not know how to blank the player names from the screenshots.

Here is a low tier battle that was a joke 'arranged' result as far as I can determine. Correct me, if I am wrong...

The win team got a Div of two players both with 52%WR.

The lose team got a Div of one player with 47%WR & the lower placed  Div player had no % WR.

In fact, this second A Div player shown with his co-op & random profile battles played had 0 battles listed yet is playing a T2 ship! How is this possible?

 Can anyone inform me about this 'anomaly'. Why is a player with '0' battles in a T2 random battle? How can they even have a T2 ship? 

Also, my team had a wonderful V-25 human player who did nothing but the Win team had a Bot V-25 that played a lot better than most human players.

Also, although I tried my best, I somehow kept missing so many shots the whole battle including on the Bot V-25. It should have gotten sunk. 

[Bear__Necessities]

2 hours ago, Aethervoxx said:

Is a clear CHEAT

Incorrect. 12 - 0 is not random, it is a CHEAT.

 

You keep using the word cheat. And yet, have never been able to prove anyone has cheated....

[Bear__Necessities]

3 hours ago, Aethervoxx said:

 I'm not naming or shaming - I do not know how to blank the player names from the screenshots.

Here is a low tier battle that was a joke 'arranged' result as far as I can determine. Correct me, if I am wrong...

The win team got a Div of two players both with 52%WR.

The lose team got a Div of one player with 47%WR & the lower placed  Div player had no % WR.

In fact, this second A Div player shown with his co-op & random profile battles played had 0 battles listed yet is playing a T2 ship! How is this possible?

 Can anyone inform me about this 'anomaly'. Why is a player with '0' battles in a T2 random battle? How can they even have a T2 ship? 

Also, my team had a wonderful V-25 human player who did nothing but the Win team had a Bot V-25 that played a lot better than most human players.

Also, although I tried my best, I somehow kept missing so many shots the whole battle including on the Bot V-25. It should have gotten sunk. 

You're actually now moaning about a T2 battle filled with 16 bots... 

 

I think you need to get out a bit more. 

[Aethervoxx]

1 hour ago, Bear__Necessities said:

a T2 battle

Nothing wrong with playing T2 when it's not 'arranged' to have a BS loss. I'm angry because I got sunk due to blatant WG AI Bot cheating.

If only my teams Bots had played equally as well this wouldn't have been posted.

However, this Bot AI 'joke one sided result' is just another way WG 'arranges' battle results.

&, explain how a human player who has 0 battles of record on either co-op or random battles can have a T2 ship in a random battle? Ofc, that player (in a div no less) played like someone with 0 battles.

[Bear__Necessities]

1 hour ago, Aethervoxx said:

Nothing wrong with playing T2 when it's not 'arranged' to have a BS loss. I'm angry because I got sunk due to blatant WG AI Bot cheating.

If only my teams Bots had played equally as well this wouldn't have been posted.

However, this Bot AI 'joke one sided result' is just another way WG 'arranges' battle results.

&, explain how a human player who has 0 battles of record on either co-op or random battles can have a T2 ship in a random battle? Ofc, that player (in a div no less) played like someone with 0 battles.

 

Wait wait wait. You think WG purposely gave you the bad bots and the other team good bots??

 

 

You're so far down the rabbit hole you have no hope. 

[Aethervoxx]

6 minutes ago, Bear__Necessities said:

You're so far down the rabbit hole you have no hope. 

You're so far up some hole you have no hope.

[ColonelPete]

3 hours ago, Aethervoxx said:

Nothing wrong with playing T2 when it's not 'arranged' to have a BS loss. I'm angry because I got sunk due to blatant WG AI Bot cheating.

If only my teams Bots had played equally as well this wouldn't have been posted.

However, this Bot AI 'joke one sided result' is just another way WG 'arranges' battle results.

&, explain how a human player who has 0 battles of record on either co-op or random battles can have a T2 ship in a random battle? Ofc, that player (in a div no less) played like someone with 0 battles.

When you think the bots are too much for you, you need a break.

And no idea what the player and his number of battles has to do with the bots or your results. It is probably just the server that is too slow.

His stats clearly show Tier I battles in the Bouganville.

[Aethervoxx]

2 hours ago, ColonelPete said:

His stats clearly show Tier I battles in the Bouganville.

There was no T1 Bougainville being played. He had 0 battles in both co-op & randoms in the battle report right after the battle. See the screenshots.

Plus, he was playing a Jurien. His profile should have shown any ships he had played but it said he had not yet played any battles. That's ZERO (0) battles.

So, Pete, where did the Jurien come from? 

2 hours ago, ColonelPete said:

think the bots are too much for you

This Bot V-25 sank me due to two factors, 1) I had to go against 4 enemy ships at the end of the battle & ofc I took damage so I was low HPs and 2) I took plenty of shots at the V-25 well before the end of the battle & at the very end of the battle & I got sunk instead of it due to the utter garbage aim results I was getting. That Bot V-25 should have been sunk before I got sunk. I almost won the battle at the end. It was BS I did not.

[ColonelPete]

1 hour ago, Aethervoxx said:

There was no T1 Bougainville being played. He had 0 battles in both co-op & randoms in the battle report right after the battle. See the screenshots.

Plus, he was playing a Jurien. His profile should have shown any ships he had played but it said he had not yet played any battles. That's ZERO (0) battles.

So, Pete, where did the Jurien come from? 

This Bot V-25 sank me due to two factors, 1) I had to go against 4 enemy ships at the end of the battle & ofc I took damage so I was low HPs and 2) I took plenty of shots at the V-25 well before the end of the battle & at the very end of the battle & I got sunk instead of it due to the utter garbage aim results I was getting. That Bot V-25 should have been sunk before I got sunk. I almost won the battle at the end. It was BS I did not.

As I told you, the servers were too slow.

Or do you think he went back to Tier I, because he noticed that he did something impossible?

Not that it would have made any difference if his battles were displayed correctly...

 

What have your aim results to do with MM?

[Bear__Necessities]

1 hour ago, Aethervoxx said:

I got sunk instead of it due to the utter garbage aim results I was getting. That Bot V-25 should have been sunk before I got sunk.

You lost a gun battle to a bot and now it's a conspiracy theory that WG are against you??? 

 

 

[bloodynicknames]

red team, 2 x 3man unicum division

green team, 1x3man, 1x2man potato division

 

"random matchmaking"

 

[ColonelPete]

6 minutes ago, bloodynicknames said:

red team, 2 x 3man unicum division

green team, 1x3man, 1x2man potato division

 

"random matchmaking"

 

 

Red team, 3 man unicum division,

green team, no unicums, still won...

 

Random MM...

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