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Dont think it is that hard at all, if players do starts to think it is one teamgame when you play Random or Ranked the issue will solve it self to some point.

It is easy to do one mistake all can do it, have got many matches there I have been uptier from Tier 8 and it have gone very well because we have played as team. CL:s and BB:s have supported me when I spot for them in Öland, given me the firesupport that I need.

I have given them targets to fire at including the other teams DD:s

 

Have played matches where half of the team do think they play Co-op and they yolo in full trottle or go cross the map in start and leave those that are on that flank. Yea those matches are hard to win.

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please someone explain to me :Smile_sad: What can a level 7 battleship and cruiser do in a level 9 match? What kind of insanity is this? 9 levels of BB with 7 levels of cruisers! Is it a joke?

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43 minutes ago, Ralrune said:

please someone explain to me :Smile_sad: What can a level 7 battleship and cruiser do in a level 9 match? What kind of insanity is this? 9 levels of BB with 7 levels of cruisers! Is it a joke?

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14 hours ago, Ralrune said:

please someone explain to me :Smile_sad: What can a level 7 battleship and cruiser do in a level 9 match? What kind of insanity is this? 9 levels of BB with 7 levels of cruisers! Is it a joke?

It should mostly not be a problem but you need to adjust your play style. You need to know the weaknesses of your ship and take that into account.

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16 hours ago, Ralrune said:

please someone explain to me :Smile_sad: What can a level 7 battleship and cruiser do in a level 9 match? What kind of insanity is this? 9 levels of BB with 7 levels of cruisers! Is it a joke?

 

Just keep always in mind that you may not get away with the same stuff you manage when top tier and avoid being THAT ship that goes boom after 3 minutes because half the enemy team (I know I am) is looking for the easy target early on. Rewards are higher when you're playing against high tiered ships. Higher risk, higher reward.

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Why is MM monitor a thing ?

 

Can it be removed / banned from this game ?

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9 hours ago, Taliesn said:

 

Just keep always in mind that you may not get away with the same stuff you manage when top tier and avoid being THAT ship that goes boom after 3 minutes because half the enemy team (I know I am) is looking for the easy target early on. Rewards are higher when you're playing against high tiered ships. Higher risk, higher reward.

And therein lies the problem, people don’t change their play style accordingly. Ranked is a great example. Tier 6 ships yoloing in without thinking (especially DD’s) getting sunk 2 mins in - had all 3 of our DD’s sunk after 3 minutes in a match. They overextended and then blamed me in an Atlanta for not supporting them - I’d only just got in range and they were all dead 

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15 hours ago, lup3s said:

Why is MM monitor a thing ?

 

Can it be removed / banned from this game ?

WG cannot ban that because it is not theirs and it is not integrated into the game. 

It is a 3rd party software using Players statistics. 

Unless WG decides not to share player statistics with 3rd parties and modders... 

It is not possible to block it

Data is out there.. MMM is only showing that ingame.. 

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15 minutes ago, Excavatus said:

WG cannot ban that because it is not theirs and it is not integrated into the game. 

It is a 3rd party software using Players statistics. 

Unless WG decides not to share player statistics with 3rd parties and modders... 

It is not possible to block it

Data is out there.. MMM is only showing that ingame.. 

Would the game be more fun if everyone had their stats hidden per default?:cap_yes:

 

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1 minute ago, GarrusBrutus said:

Would the game be more fun if everyone had their stats hidden per default?:cap_yes:

 

no mate.. I don't like surprises... 

I indeed need to know the total number of working braincells among my team 

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22 minutes ago, Excavatus said:

WG cannot ban that because it is not theirs and it is not integrated into the game. 

It is a 3rd party software using Players statistics. 

Unless WG decides not to share player statistics with 3rd parties and modders... 

It is not possible to block it

Data is out there.. MMM is only showing that ingame.. 

 

Frankly. I still think that Statistics should not be Available for Random at all.

Thus Statistics being Purely a thing for Ranked. Or maybe a New Type of Ranked which is basicly a Mode where Stats actually give you Rank among all Players etc.

 

 

But that aside.

Would it not be Possible for WG to Simply Ban the MM Monitor Mod from being used ?

If WG States that using MM Monitors is Cheating and thus Prohibits as a Third Party Program being Run while Playing. The use would Clearly be reduced alot.

 

Of course People could still use it against the Rules at the Risk of being Banned if its Found out.

But it would be Officially considered Cheating. And thus there would be a very High Risk Involved in using it. Which likely wont be Worth it for most People.

 

And since MM Monitors that are Showing Data explicitly for a Match your in. Do in Fact Draw Data from the Game directly. There is Ways to Detect People using it.

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8 hours ago, Excavatus said:

WG cannot ban that because it is not theirs and it is not integrated into the game. 

It is a 3rd party software using Players statistics. 

Unless WG decides not to share player statistics with 3rd parties and modders... 

It is not possible to block it

Data is out there.. MMM is only showing that ingame.. 

 

But the software has to get the names of the players in a specific battle, in order to be able to retrieve their stats ? So this data fetch could be detected / tracked ? Or am I seeing this wrong :Smile_unsure:

 

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15 hours ago, lup3s said:

 

But the software has to get the names of the players in a specific battle, in order to be able to retrieve their stats ? So this data fetch could be detected / tracked ? Or am I seeing this wrong :Smile_unsure:

 

Thats what I'm talking about too :) 
WG is sharing the data.. out in the open :) 

then people using it.. they need to hide the data so people wouldn't use it.. It is a black and white situation actually. 

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8 hours ago, Excavatus said:

Thats what I'm talking about too :) 
WG is sharing the data.. out in the open :) 

then people using it.. they need to hide the data so people wouldn't use it.. It is a black and white situation actually. 

 

Hm, ok, sad.

I think this game would be better off without these toxic mods.

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i think it would be better to quit all together statistically the ammount of people that dont have a clue what they are doing is increasing day by day lols sorry cant carry hard enough when 3/4 of your team have average wr<40% what a waste of time lolsimage.png.61cd5ec5a439bc59f95cd38c858c6047.png

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2 hours ago, lup3s said:

 

Hm, ok, sad.

I think this game would be better off without these toxic mods.

Get in line, people are screaming in WOT for WN8 (basically same thing but more detailed) for 10 years :) 

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1 hour ago, Excavatus said:

Get in line, people are screaming in WOT for WN8 (basically same thing but more detailed) for 10 years :) 

MMM is not a mod. Means he must be talking about forum moderators :fish_viking:

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On 6/1/2021 at 9:01 AM, Excavatus said:

no mate.. I don't like surprises... 

I indeed need to know the total number of working braincells among my team 

You don't need that mod for it though. Just assume your team is filled with at least 8 full blown [edited]. The last 3 can range between that and super unicums. Identifying those 3 ish is easy, look at the opening moves the players make. If you can't do that, you are part of the other 8.

 

The big downside of this mod is those 8 ****heads using it to say "MM iz RiGgED, NoAw I LeAf". 

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On 6/3/2021 at 7:57 AM, 159Hunter said:

If you can't do that, you are part of the other 8.

It is like, "1 of the 4 people in a room is an idiot.. If you cannot identify who is that in your room, I have bad news for you" 

But the ratio you've given is much higher :cap_haloween:

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On 6/2/2021 at 5:17 PM, lup3s said:

 

Hm, ok, sad.

I think this game would be better off without these toxic mods.

And i think the game would be much better if the ppl that dont know how to think tactically would stop play in random/rankt and stay in Co-op.

 

I love WoWs monitor thx to that i start to play much better for now i can see if the player i have with me will support me in the battle and not running away so fast he see a enemy ship.

 

Thx too WoWs monitor i get beter over sight in rankt and i can decide: play for victory or play too keep the star.

 

The only bad with WoWs monitor are my blacklist got so big now so when i need to add new ppl to it the game freez for 10-20sec becus the game need to load in the blacklist to the game befor it can add ppl to it. So now i understand the blacklist lagg/bugg. But that becus the blacklist are not loaded at the same time when you start the game. So WG need see over it so the friend/blacklist loading at the same time you start the game and not separately.

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2 hours ago, __Hercules_ said:

Thx too WoWs monitor i get beter over sight in rankt and i can decide: play for victory or play too keep the star.

 

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This would be one of the reasons why it should be removed.

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2 hours ago, __Hercules_ said:

Thx too WoWs monitor i get beter over sight in rankt and i can decide: play for victory or play too keep the star.

And that lowers your winrating.

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So ISE is live an we're seeing them in matches....

Matchmaking has got to be the EASIEST thing to balance, two teams yet one team has two ISE ships. Not only is it the same with Radar, I've seen it with DD's as well. How lazy do you have to be to code matchmaking like this, you literally put one in one team and one in the other.

I used to really enjoy this game but the late idiosyncrasies of 'Dev's' are really pushing me away AKA = Cheap stupid coding
 

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