Matchmaker Discussion Thread & MM Balance

[Martio_Batch]

tbh a lot of my own clan mates reached rank 1. So again question to WG? What have i done to sacrifice the penalty of this current MM???? I can't stand this anymore

[Martio_Batch]

Of course i wasn't allowed to keep the star....

[Martio_Batch]

[Martio_Batch]

and there goes the last star....

[Martio_Batch]

From my view ranked is impossible. Because you can't win those games.

[ColonelPete]

18 minutes ago, Martio_Batch said:

From my view ranked is impossible. Because you can't win those games.

If it is impossibble, why do people rank out in under 30 matches?

 

And yes, you can put your opinion into one post, no need to make three posts for each thought of yours...

[Martio_Batch]

sry

And i said from my view it is impossible. If  could get decent teams i can finish in 30 battles or less as well. But my question is more why is the MM dooming me for more than 3 days now to keep loosing the games?

I just wanna know what i have done to be cursed/doomed into this MM. I am really courios!

[mrcneri1]

The real issue about matchmaking is not only the ship one but the player's one . Playing togehter with unexperienced and not motivated players brings down your winning rate dramatically ,

WG should take into account the final scoreboard in order to influence your winning rate and should divide players into different categories , most like the division we have in ranked battle between bronze , silver and gold .

 

cheers

[GarrusBrutus]

2 hours ago, Martio_Batch said:

I just wanna know what i have done to be cursed/doomed into this MM. I am really courios!

Sorry to burst your bubble but your winrate in ranked corresponds with your personal skill level.

Pretty low average dmg + kills means not a lot of game impact.

[Aethervoxx]

2 hours ago, ColonelPete said:

you can put your opinion into one post,

.... something you will never do, although, we can hope for a  .... miracle

[Aethervoxx]

2 hours ago, ColonelPete said:

why do people rank out in under 30 matches?

because they get 'arranged' results rather than getting placed on teams with utter imbeciles (or even players who actively ruin their team's chance)

[Aethervoxx]

2 hours ago, Martio_Batch said:

If  could get decent teams i can finish in 30 battles or less as well.

Which only proves there's blatant 'arranged' results for certain players - like being continually placed on teams full of good players (rather than having a few really bad players on your team to give you an auto-loss).

[ColonelPete]

15 minutes ago, Aethervoxx said:

because they get 'arranged' results rather than getting placed on teams with utter imbeciles (or even players who actively ruin their team's chance)

Right, there is no difference between an unicum and a 50% WR player. They all play the same in Ranked, one just gets better teams for some reason

 

And contrary to you, I can put my answers in one post...

 

[Aethervoxx]

2 minutes ago, ColonelPete said:

And contrary to you, I can put my answers in one post...

An outright lie as your post count proves.

[ColonelPete]

1 minute ago, Aethervoxx said:

An outright lie as your post count proves.

You know that a discussion is a back-and-forth or do you not understand that?

[GarrusBrutus]

18 minutes ago, Aethervoxx said:

Which only proves there's blatant 'arranged' results for certain players - like being continually placed on teams full of good players (rather than having a few really bad players on your team to give you an auto-loss).

Blatant arranged results? Arranged how?

 

 

[Nibenay78]

2 minutes ago, GarrusBrutus said:

Blatant arranged results? Arranged how?

 

You get arranged into a random team. 

 

Random also means one will get streaks of losses and wins, regardless of winrate and skill. But the number of win/loss streaks will no doubt be different from a really bad player to a really good player.

[GarrusBrutus]

1 minute ago, Nibenay78 said:

You get arranged into a random team. 

 

Random also means one will get streaks of losses and wins, regardless of winrate and skill. But the number of win/loss streaks will no doubt be different from a really bad player to a really good player.

Tell that to all the players severely lacking any form of self criticism in this thread.

[Nibenay78]

3 minutes ago, GarrusBrutus said:

Tell that to all the players severely lacking any form of self criticism in this thread.

I try to explain randomness to friends and family in RL also. It doesn't work. The effects of randomness is hard to grasp for people who has no theoretical background with it. On top of that our brains are hardwired (and excessively good) at finding patterns.

[Martio_Batch]

Vor 11 Stunden, GarrusBrutus sagte:

Sorry to burst your bubble but your winrate in ranked corresponds with your personal skill level.

Pretty low average dmg + kills means not a lot of game impact.

You are burst "my bubble" where i like to have the sweet life of just get carried to rank 1 without doing anything.

But yes according to you the answer is simple. Because i am a bad player i get all the time bad teams and deserve to loose all the time. I just not allowed to win.

If a noob like me dare to ask.

If 160k dmg + 2 kills aren't enough to allow to win a ranked game. How much should i deal in total?

Do i need to kill all 7 players of the red team and deak at least 300k dmg accordinng to you?

 

Aye then i am way to bad for this game.

 

[GarrusBrutus]

10 minutes ago, Martio_Batch said:

But yes according to you the answer is simple. Because i am a bad player i get all the time bad teams and deserve to loose all the time. I just not allowed to win.

 

If 160k dmg + 2 kills aren't enough to allow to win a ranked game. How much should i deal in total?

*sigh* That is not what I am saying. But be honest: Can you improve your gameplay or not? Because based on your overall stats the winrate you currently have in ranked isnt above or below your expected winrate....

 

And first: Single games don't matter. My clanmate had a 250k + kraken loss in ranked. It happens.

Second: Average damage and kills do not tell the whole story. If you seriously want to improve you need to give a few replays, so we can see if you can make better decisions during the game.

[GarrusBrutus]

@Aethervoxx what the hell is your problem?

[Yosha_AtaIante]

15 minutes ago, GarrusBrutus said:

@Aethervoxx what the hell is your problem?

Why are you even trying to help them? 

Just let them comfort each other and leave them and their beliefs of MM being rigged. That's the only comfort they can get on here anyway

After all checking their stats reveals the real problem which they are denying anyway. 

 

Also how u got 68% WR. I don't want to meet you on the enemy team not even in my CV

[ColonelPete]

2 hours ago, GarrusBrutus said:

@Aethervoxx what the hell is your problem?

He is unable to articulate his opinion, so he uses emojis. You get used to it.

[TheBradford]

16 hours ago, mrcneri1 said:

The real issue about matchmaking is not only the ship one but the player's one . Playing togehter with unexperienced and not motivated players brings down your winning rate dramatically ,

You can argue for random battles at least, how many player, play for fun more than they do for win rates and stats. Not all players (especially players not on forums, YouTube) play to win, some play for fun and some purely because they want huge amounts of damage which we have seen time and time again, that doing damage doesn't always bring the win. Which is why for MM i dont mind it too much in random battles because you have a whole mix of players, playing the game for different reasons. 

 

Whereas in ranked, you have players, playing because they want to win and this hence MM here puts ship tier for tier, its the composition of the teams that then becomes an issue, like who has more radars or supercruisers ect.