Matchmaker Discussion Thread & MM Balance

[_HomTanks_]

1 hour ago, DFens_666 said:

 

Ive had CVs all the time aswell, i checked only 1 game of my last 16 didnt have one (was a T9 only game)... At this time, i just expect a CV every game.

I had 13 games straight CV only games in Orkan. You had CV in 15 games out of 16. 

Well, that means either everyone started playing CVs all of a sudden although i didn't check the weekly stats or there must be another explanation (other than that 0.00212312431243 statistical percentage).

 

EDIT: @DFens_666 Played 3 more games with Orkan and all had CVs again. Total 16 out of 16 games had CVs in Orkan, mostly Tier 8 CVs followed by T6 CVs and only a couple of times T10 CVs. 

[Capt_Big_Noob]

On 12/4/2020 at 11:57 AM, ColonelPete said:

Depends on what you mean with lose all the time. Threetimes in a row is not unusual and you should know that. And no, you are not at 25%...

Your personal feelings are far from reality. That is a problem.

Thats not true i am losing and losing all my battels now.. and it has nothing to do with feelings..

 

[DFens_666]

14 minutes ago, Capt_Big_Noob said:

Thats not true i am losing and losing all my battels now.. and it has nothing to do with feelings..

 

 

hmm... no?

 

Dates are wrong at wows.numbers, if noone checks your profile.

[MacFergus]

I have to say after the Santa Gate scandal and my 80 odd games in the last week MM is looking fishy to say the list , And i know the counter argument to this is you should carry more but when your team melts within a short period of time on a regular basis and you feel that even when you do carry its not enough.

 

I had 12 games last night won 5 lost 7 the 7 I lost were seriously complete wipe-outs the enemy losing maybe 3-4 ships , The games I won were very close where i played very well personally but they were tight its very rare I'm on a team that wipes the floor for the win , The odds of this happing are remote at some point you would expect a sequence of victory's like you do defeats.

 

Even though I play solo i never seem to get the good divisions in my teams but always end up facing them , Their is defiantly something going on with MM I cant put my finger on it but its not right and after all that has happened this week with the crates you have to wonder is MM rigged to benefit maybe the more active players I don't know but something is not right.

 

This is not a moan but more and observation as my own personal stats have been improving but boy i have to work really hard at that I would like to be carried myself in a game or two.

[DFens_666]

16 minutes ago, MacFergus said:

This is not a moan but more and observation as my own personal stats have been improving but boy i have to work really hard at that I would like to be carried myself in a game or two.

 

 

If it makes you feel any better

Mind you, thats not even solo, thats 2x or 3x div games. And still only 9 wins out of 13 games. Most of the wins were rather close aswell. An easy win was one Venezia game, where i couldnt do much because 3 BBs had their eyes only on me and ignored several of my teammates in their flank.

 

 

If i add these 3, its even only 10 out of 16. Alaska and Lightning were just smashing defeats. Scharnhorst was almost a loss aswell. My team camped in spawn, we were losing. I tried to do something, got ofc just killed because T9 MM. But then, enemies just went ahead and suicided 1by1 so we actually won...

 

I dont count on getting carried. Usually, its still my division mates doing the carrying, which most likely would also not happen if they werent there... so, yeah, go figure.

[Bear__Necessities]

176 pages going huh? So, has ermmm, anyone actually presented any evidence of WG rigging MM yet? Or are we still waiting after 5 plus years now??

[159Hunter]

33 minutes ago, Bear__Necessities said:

176 pages going huh? So, has ermmm, anyone actually presented any evidence of WG rigging MM yet? Or are we still waiting after 5 plus years now??

shut up you, it is known that you get preferential matchmaking.

It is also known that I get bad matchmaking.

Proof you say?

Look at the WR and PR colors, all the proof you need is in there.

[Bear__Necessities]

23 minutes ago, 159Hunter said:

shut up you, it is known that you get preferential matchmaking.

It is also known that I get bad matchmaking.

Proof you say?

Look at the WR and PR colors, all the proof you need is in there.

Ahhh crap yeah, that reminds me. I need to set up my premium MM fee for next year. 

[DED7YAGA]

matchmaking is a complete cause of Edited*. We try to play with a minimum of 8 players who do not know the game in each game. The matchmaker should wake up immediately and fix this..

 

Edit: Watch the language

[ObiWankov]

last few days...

 

11ish game solo: 36% wr

9ish games double div: 92% wr

10 games tripple div: 100% wr

 

solo is like a gamble for me, working as intended I guess?

[Yosha_AtaIante]

If solo feels like a gamble then that just means that you just aren't good enough to carry yourself yet. 

[Excavatus]

14 minutes ago, Zuihou_Kai said:

If solo feels like a gamble then that just means that you just aren't good enough to carry yourself yet. 

@ObiWankov The size of ooooof! eheheheh! 

 

14 hours ago, Bear__Necessities said:

176 pages going huh? So, has ermmm, anyone actually presented any evidence of WG rigging MM yet? Or are we still waiting after 5 plus years now??

How can you!!! 

You know, If I lose, because MM puts bad players on my team, 

If I win, thats because I'm good... 

 

[Furius_Marius]

 

 

Tier VIII where????

[ForlornSailor]

1 hour ago, Furius_Marius said:

Tier VIII where????

 

In T6 and T10 games ofc - what a question

[Yosha_AtaIante]

WGs matchmaking balances by skill now. It was a very close fight the enemy nearly lost. 

[CptBarney]

1 hour ago, Zuihou_Kai said:

WGs matchmaking balances by skill now. It was a very close fight the enemy nearly lost. 

Nah you just aren't good enough to carry yourself yet.

 

[MacFergus]

On 12/8/2020 at 6:08 AM, Zuihou_Kai said:

If solo feels like a gamble then that just means that you just aren't good enough to carry yourself yet. 

I disagree with all due respect , You cant stop your team melting away the yolo potato's that decide to die in the first few minutes , I have carried plenty of games recently and still lost its the nature of playing solo , I never seem to get that division of good players on my side for some strange reason i nearly always end up playing against them and while i have no evidence to suggest that MM is rigged my own experience suggest something is not right when players can hold down an 80% WR , Its obvious to me that their teams don't melt away like the rest of us plebs.

 

[Yosha_AtaIante]

16 minutes ago, MacFergus said:

I disagree with all due respect , You cant stop your team melting away the yolo potato's that decide to die in the first few minutes , I have carried plenty of games recently and still lost its the nature of playing solo , I never seem to get that division of good players on my side for some strange reason i nearly always end up playing against them and while i have no evidence to suggest that MM is rigged my own experience suggest something is not right when players can hold down an 80% WR , Its obvious to me that their teams don't melt away like the rest of us plebs.

 

What I don't understand is why you think it's possible to just start carrying in those high WR ranges. Of course you can't do it yet I don't sugar coat these things. You didn't play enough battles yet to have the experience and target selection practice that the best of us have. Same is true for the person who I told the original thing to. Before he started to hide his stats (people were pointing at his solo achievements before because those didn't match his div stats) one could see that he lacked amount of battles. The more battles you play and the more effort you put into learning CV and playing them well the better you will be. 

 

But just asking for how to do it and then expecting to with those written tips and tricks suddenly perform similar to the best is just impossible. 

The biggest issue is then that the excuse of matchmaking is being used. 

 

"because of teams I can't this or that" 

 

I get the same enemy teams as you do. I posted a screenshot where I played with a friend, together we killed 11 and couldn't win. It's a special case that happens once a year so I posted it as a joke but you don't see me complain about bad teams and MM do you? 

 

Some matches are just unwinnable by default. Those that are winnable however and you lose regardless are all on you not your team, not on MM.And you will have many games that certainly were winnable but you just don't have the ability and experience yet to make the right move. This is natural, perfectly normal. You will get there. But you need to realize that it's not always MM that makes you lose. 

[MacFergus]

48 minutes ago, Zuihou_Kai said:

What I don't understand is why you think it's possible to just start carrying in those high WR ranges. Of course you can't do it yet I don't sugar coat these things. You didn't play enough battles yet to have the experience and target selection practice that the best of us have. Same is true for the person who I told the original thing to. Before he started to hide his stats (people were pointing at his solo achievements before because those didn't match his div stats) one could see that he lacked amount of battles. The more battles you play and the more effort you put into learning CV and playing them well the better you will be. 

 

But just asking for how to do it and then expecting to with those written tips and tricks suddenly perform similar to the best is just impossible. 

The biggest issue is then that the excuse of matchmaking is being used. 

 

"because of teams I can't this or that" 

 

I get the same enemy teams as you do. I posted a screenshot where I played with a friend, together we killed 11 and couldn't win. It's a special case that happens once a year so I posted it as a joke but you don't see me complain about bad teams and MM do you? 

 

Some matches are just unwinnable by default. Those that are winnable however and you lose regardless are all on you not your team, not on MM.And you will have many games that certainly were winnable but you just don't have the ability and experience yet to make the right move. This is natural, perfectly normal. You will get there. But you need to realize that it's not always MM that makes you lose. 

This is very true what you say I am getting better as i play although I'm restricted by family life so can only play a few battles a day.

 

To be honest i would love to blame MM but in reality i would also expect to be carried in a few games which is what I'm really referring too what I'm finding at the moment with MM is those carries don't exist for me anyway , And you are right I'm certainly not good enough to carry on a regular basis i do in the odd games but where is the person who will carry me?.

 

The lopsided games i see are happing more and more if I'm on the winning team or not there are very few close games this indicates a problem with MM however because i play such few games it could be I'm highlighting it more than I should be.

 

 

[Yosha_AtaIante]

4 minutes ago, MacFergus said:

where is the person who will carry me?.

That person is as rare as are the people that get regular 70% winrates in their CVs solo

 

So you need to strife for being that person yourself

 

Yes I understand limited time. I also barely have time lately. If I didn't no life into wows 1 year ago I wouldn't be at the spot where I currently am. 

[Excavatus]

16 hours ago, Zuihou_Kai said:

That person is as rare as are the people that get regular 70% winrates in their CVs solo

My solo Enterprise senpai! 

As you've asked me before! 

[Knutorius]

On 12/8/2020 at 11:50 PM, Furius_Marius said:

 

 

Tier VIII where????

..and I bet you waited 3 seconds max. for this..

[GarrusBrutus]

3 hours ago, Excavatus said:

My solo Enterprise senpai! 

As you've asked me before! 

Achievement unlocked: Now do it with Indomitable. 

[Excavatus]

52 minutes ago, GarrusBrutus said:

Achievement unlocked: Now do it with Indomitable. 

I'm ok with that, If you are ready to pay my "rest of the life" therapy sessions. 

[DasTongle]

11 minutes ago, Excavatus said:

I'm ok with that, If you are ready to pay my "rest of the life" therapy sessions. 

Why comrade Excavatus, this supiciously sounds as if you do not wish to fullfill der Wörk.

I mean there is another Wörked hard beyond the Call of Wörk medal up for graps... also another makarov.