Matchmaker Discussion Thread & MM Balance

[Nov_A]

1 minute ago, GarrusBrutus said:

Maybe it could but wouldnt it be unfair for your teammates who get put up with your T6 divisionmates in their T9 game? You'd negatively influence their chances of winning by bringing such a division.

That wouldnt be fun for you, your teammates and the enemy team.

But be glad there is a simple trick to circumvent this nasty side effect of uneven matchmaking:

pick.

same.

tier.

ships.

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The moment GKs and Montanas stop getting outperformed in terms of survival, damage and XP by a New Orleans, I will take your advice.

[GarrusBrutus]

Just now, Nov_A said:

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The moment GKs and Montanas stop getting outperformed in terms of survival, damage and XP by a New Orleans, I will take your advice.

Then stop crying about having to wait an eternity for a match..................................

Its very simple.

[ColonelPete]

38 minutes ago, Nov_A said:

The other guy was re-grinding his New Orleans and I dont play T7.

Make an exception.

He either stops his regrind for the time he plays with you or you select a Tier VII ship anyway. It is not that different from Tier VI or VIII.

[Nov_A]

1 minute ago, GarrusBrutus said:

Then stop crying about having to wait an eternity for a match..................................

Its very simple.

Okay i'll stop.

[Seepheerd]

So it is totally correct to play against T9 ships if there are a T7 ship in the enemy team?

Fcukin mm!

[Kuraiko]

Yo, just came here after necroing this Thread.

Seems I tickled some moderators whatever.

 

Also I didn't bother reading all this sh!t here.

 

Here's (probably) yet another example why WoWS MM is bad.
Please pay special attention to how many aircrafts I lost compared to the damage I dealt with them.
Nobody can tell me that there's always a perfect way to deal more damage with such a gruesome MM. Sometimes my whole squadron would drop before even attempting to attack the single(!) T9 or T10 enemy vessel. They just smash O and my pilots are like "O my go#!%?&".

 

https://www.dropbox.com/s/wyuifecgfh0zgf0/52_WorldOfWarships64_2020-12-04_01-12-57.png?raw=1
https://www.dropbox.com/s/np46by1r4hjv4ey/53_WorldOfWarships64_2020-12-04_01-13-00.png?raw=1

[ColonelPete]

When you have trouble playing CV, it is not the fault of the ship and not the fault of the MM.

[Excavatus]

5 hours ago, ColonelPete said:

When you have trouble playing CV, it is not the fault of the ship and not the fault of the MM.

%100 this

[ForlornSailor]

7 hours ago, Kuraiko said:

Here's (probably) yet another example why WoWS MM is bad.
Please pay special attention to how many aircrafts I lost compared to the damage I dealt with them.
Nobody can tell me that there's always a perfect way to deal more damage with such a gruesome MM. Sometimes my whole squadron would drop before even attempting to attack the single(!) T9 or T10 enemy vessel. They just smash O and my pilots are like "O my go#!%?&". 

 

Because you dont know how to play CVs. But here is the funny part: CVs are are the only ship class where you somewhat manage to perform in. Yet you come here and complain about them beeing weak. You complain, they dont deal enough damage. You complain, its the matchmakers fault because you face ships that have a higher tier.

 

I will ask you a simple question: If we were to take you serious on those points, im sure you have a good explanation how you manage this:

 

 

I mean Shima is never low tier, since its T10. And poor CVs cant deal damage, yet you almost have 2,5x the damage with your CV compared to the DD - which is two tiers higher.

Im really looking forward to your explanation, because from over here, it looks like you are contradicting yourself. heavy.

[GarrusBrutus]

Don't eat the yellow snow... I mean.... the black clouds. 

[DFens_666]

1 hour ago, GarrusBrutus said:

Don't eat the yellow snow... I mean.... the black clouds. 

 

I thought they give super-sexual powers

[Capt_Big_Noob]

What is wrong with this MM.. I lose and lose all the time.. It is time for WOWS to find a new way to match the battes on.. Yes i am a noob, but noobs also have at wins ant i think that my win rate must be at 25% it`s so Fuckt 

[ColonelPete]

10 minutes ago, Capt_Big_Noob said:

What is wrong with this MM.. I lose and lose all the time.. It is time for WOWS to find a new way to match the battes on.. Yes i am a noob, but noobs also have at wins ant i think that my win rate must be at 25% it`s so Fuckt 

Depends on what you mean with lose all the time. Threetimes in a row is not unusual and you should know that. And no, you are not at 25%...

Your personal feelings are far from reality. That is a problem.

[zekai7498]

An example top tier that suppose to carry the game;

an ARP Potato

 

attention to the tiers he has played.

[ColonelPete]

14 minutes ago, zekai7498 said:

An example top tier that suppose to carry the game;

an ARP Potato

As if the players sitting in high Tier silver BB would be any better...

 

Just had a battle where three silver Tier IX BB on my team got less than half the XP of my Tier VIII cruiser.

[159Hunter]

1 hour ago, zekai7498 said:

An example top tier that suppose to carry the game;

an ARP Potato

But she/he haz 50% WR in ARP boat 

[Miragetank90]

 

[DFens_666]

10 hours ago, Miragetank90 said:

 

 

I think WG should get rid of faildivs at this point.

[Miragetank90]

2 hours ago, DFens_666 said:

 

I think WG should get rid of faildivs at this point.

 

It's not just the faildivs in this case, but also the incomplete teams.

 

I mean it's not unheard of but given that it was during peak hours in a very populated queue it was surprising. We only waited for around half a minute as well, others still were insta dropped in. 

[DFens_666]

7 minutes ago, Miragetank90 said:

 

It's not just the faildivs in this case, but also the incomplete teams.

 

I mean it's not unheard of but given that it was during peak hours in a very populated queue it was surprising. We only waited for around half a minute as well, others still were insta dropped in. 

 

https://forum.worldofwarships.eu/topic/114098-matchmaker-discussion-thread-mm-balance/?do=findComment&comment=3712553

 

I assume something like this happened here aswell:

- One faildiv sat in queue for >5 mins.

- 2nd compatible faildiv enters queue, match starts instantly

- all available ships get put into the game

 

As i replied to @Nov_A , i think it has something to do with the MM-rules, that you will be a certain amount low-/mid-/hightier. If not enough ships were available for that T7-9 MM, that would explain the imcomplete team even during peak hours.

 

Basicly thats why i said, faildivs should go. They screw too much with the MM-rules these days.

[GarrusBrutus]

7 minutes ago, Miragetank90 said:

 

It's not just the faildivs in this case, but also the incomplete teams.

 

I mean it's not unheard of but given that it was during peak hours in a very populated queue it was surprising. We only waited for around half a minute as well, others still were insta dropped in. 

One of those fails divs probably waited in queue for a long time, so as soon as the other fail div joined the queue it immediately created a match with whatever ships available. 

[Miragetank90]

1 minute ago, GarrusBrutus said:

One of those fails divs probably waited in queue for a long time, so as soon as the other fail div joined the queue it immediately created a match with whatever ships available. 

 

2 minutes ago, DFens_666 said:

 

https://forum.worldofwarships.eu/topic/114098-matchmaker-discussion-thread-mm-balance/?do=findComment&comment=3712553

 

I assume something like this happened here aswell:

- One faildiv sat in queue for >5 mins.

- 2nd compatible faildiv enters queue, match starts instantly

- all available ships get put into the game

 

 

I think you guys hit the nail on the head here. I agree, most probably what happened. 

[_HomTanks_]

So I got Orkan yesterday, yea unsurprisingly a short list ship, and played ten games with it in two days. All had CVs, one game had even double T8 CVs. I’m not sure anymore that the MM is totally random.

[_HomTanks_]

1 hour ago, Execute0rder66 said:

So I got Orkan yesterday, yea unsurprisingly a short list ship, and played ten games with it in two days. All had CVs, one game had even double T8 CVs. I’m not sure anymore that the MM is totally random.

Played 3 more games in Orkan and all had CVs which makes it straight 13 games with CVs. Let’s see when it will end.

[DFens_666]

Just now, Execute0rder66 said:

Played 3 more games in Orkan and all had CVs which makes it straight 13 games that had all CVs. Let’s see when it will end.

 

Ive had CVs all the time aswell, i checked only 1 game of my last 16 didnt have one (was a T9 only game)... At this time, i just expect a CV every game.